Did anyone here ever consider becoming a Priest?

py2006 · 21-07-2018 01:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It relates to believing in something "odd".

But in hindsight, it doesn't match up with what you actually said.

Yep, stop confusing me

py2006 · 21-07-2018 01:54PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

It's a worrying sign of human nature, isn't it?
At least the most extreme political orthodoxies seem to be short lived.

I actually think that if science proved tomorrow that there was no god we would still have people believing, praying etc 100 years from now.

Giraffe Box · 21-07-2018 02:07PM

Giraffe Box wrote: »

Where did you get the idea that being a 'man of God' and being fond of material things are mutually exclusive? That's mad Ted so it is.

YFlyer wrote: »

You can be fond of material things and still be detach from them. The Gita explains this in detail.

Gita out of it ya eejit.

gammygils · 21-07-2018 02:17PM

Instead of being a Fascist be a priest.
Fascists dress in black & go around telling people what to do whereas priest........
More drink? Yaay!

Ave Sodalis · 21-07-2018 02:41PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Vows are to God, I tis never OK and it is shameful as it is for anyone to betray a company etc

Utterly shameful.

Graces7 wrote: »

Nothing to do with heart being in it. Vows are to God. End of.

Graces7 wrote: »

Leaving this now as you are talking a different language

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a typical example of a good Catholic. Listen only to me, don't question it, and a little bit of shame thrown in there for good measure.

And they wonder why there are more and more people turning away from the church.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 21-07-2018 03:09PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a typical example of a good Catholic. Listen only to me, don't question it, and a little bit of shame thrown in there for good measure.

And they wonder why there are more and more people turning away from the church.

I'd qualify that somewhat. Many Catholics accept that men will leave the priesthood due to circumstances like falling in love or disillusionment with the structures or behaviours of the church. I know several who thought it better and more honest to leave and have received nothing but support from other Catholics. The view that they have broken a solemn oath or carry any shame is not that of many practicing Catholics.

21-07-2018 03:20PM

I remember when i was from around 7 up into my teens my mother telling my Aunts at every occasion (very religious people btw) that i was going into the priesthood "isn't that right" says she, me shaking my head no flipping way.

I remember my brother in law saying the same to me, with his mother wanting him to be a priest as well.

AllForIt · 21-07-2018 03:35PM

Apparently when I was very young I said to my now deceased fathers aunt when asked what I wanted to be when I grow up, I said I wanted to be a bishop. She would crack up ever time she told me that story.

Ave Sodalis · 21-07-2018 05:21PM

Jazmin Powerful Destroyer wrote:

I'd qualify that somewhat. Many Catholics accept that men will leave the priesthood due to circumstances like falling in love or disillusionment with the structures or behaviours of the church. I know several who thought it better and more honest to leave and have received nothing but support from other Catholics. The view that they have broken a solemn oath or carry any shame is not that of many practicing Catholics.

To be fair, it probably was never the view of most, but it's the self rightous ones that are usually the loudest and most aggressive, therefore most seen.

21-07-2018 06:03PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

When I was an Alter Boy at the age of 10 maybe, before I discovered girls. But then I also wanted to be an airline pilot, and an architect.

And look at what you’ve become all grown up- a condiment for a lamb chop :P

21-07-2018 09:21PM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

To be fair, it probably was never the view of most, but it's the self rightous ones that are usually the loudest and most aggressive, therefore most seen.

Only online... Or some particularly nasty old person. In RL we all tend to know "good" catholics who might be rather disapproving of our lifestyles but keep the actual words to themselves. My neighbors are like that. Don't drink, don't smoke, Mass three times a week, very traditional household, and their children (all grown and married now) are similar. But never a bit of trouble from them, and they're incredibly supportive in the neighborhood. Respect.

Church on Tuesday · 21-07-2018 09:51PM

I reckon a lot of young men who be interested in joining the Priesthood if they could live like their own parishioners and marry, raise a family, etc. It's only natural to want these things later in life, it's hardly a sin.

Surely it would be best to have a Priest who too understands the difficulties of his parishioners as regards family life instead of just the spiritual?

And yeah, women should allowed into the Priesthood too.

21-07-2018 11:00PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I reckon a lot of young men who be interested in joining the Priesthood if they could live like their own parishioners and marry, raise a family, etc. It's only natural to want these things later in life, it's hardly a sin.

Surely it would be best to have a Priest who too understands the difficulties of his parishioners as regards family life instead of just the spiritual?

And yeah, women should allowed into the Priesthood too.

Yes, and given that married priests were the norm in the RCC - as any Irish person with the surname Mac an tSagairt could testify, for instance - until the Second Lateran Council in 1139, it really is a case of the RCC being its own worst enemy. Similarly the backward misogyny is undermining them. They reap what they sow.

freshpopcorn · 21-07-2018 11:16PM

When I was a kid I only ever really had positive experiences of religion at school/mass and around priests. I severed mass/etc and enjoyed it.
I don't know did I ever consider becoming a priest tough.

Thoughtform · 21-07-2018 11:41PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Vows are to God, I tis never OK and it is shameful as it is for anyone to betray a company etc

Utterly shameful.

Jeez, there are numerous things that are utterly shameful, but realising something isn't for you so quitting it? That's a pretty low bar in the utterly shameful stakes.

The priest advising his mother to destroy all photographs of him - now that's utterly shameful.

r93kaey5p2izun · 21-07-2018 11:46PM

I considered that I would like the life of a nun who lives in a quiet peaceful closed order and whether that would be possible while faking belief. It seemed like an easy option.

DickSwiveller Returns · 21-07-2018 11:52PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When I was a kid I only ever really had positive experiences of religion at school/mass and around priests. I severed mass/etc and enjoyed it.
I don't know did I ever consider becoming a priest tough.

Same. I'm from North Kildare and my local priest (dead now) was a legend and mad Laois football fan. He used to be constantly taking digs at the Kildare fans during mass!

22-07-2018 12:25AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When I was a kid I only ever really had positive experiences of religion at school/mass and around priests. I severed mass/etc and enjoyed it.
I don't know did I ever consider becoming a priest tough.

My family was quite devout while I was a child, and with the amount of relations in the church (priests, nuns, missionaries), there was some expectation that I would (as the third child) enter the priesthood. And I genuinely believed in the religion well into my teens, although I did question everything. I was "blessed" with understanding people who were patient enough to deal with those questions in a reasonable manner, and honestly, I have great memories of that time.

I did a number of months in a seminary here in Ireland to get a "taste" of what it would be like, and again, as a child/young teen, i found it very interesting. Alas (or thankfully) as I became older I gained a dislike of unquestionable authority, and while my relations weren't that way... the priests/nuns at the seminary were. It was a lot like what I imagine the military to be. Very regimental... and a strict adherence to rules whose purpose was lost on me.

By the time, I was 16 my belief in the Church was pretty much burned out of me. Not because of anything majorly wrong/bad, but simply because I didn't like the way it was run.. and I'd started noticing the hypocrisy that came with many of the higher priests vs those who served the community. I'd been involved in conversations with my relations who were very honest with me about the way the Church in Ireland operated vs what most people commonly thought about it.

Just after my 16th birthday, I informed my parents that I wouldn't be attending mass or confession any longer, and they were relieved. they, themselves, had lost their interest in the stricter side of the religion they were brought up in, and we all slid into comfortable non-practicing Catholics, although my family still went to Sunday mass without me.

I have nothing but respect for the millions of people who serve in the Church. They are incredible... and as with any organisation there are those who are not suited to the role, are corrupt, or simply are hiding from their darker appetites. However, the majority, to my mind are lovely people who serve a higher calling... I've often looked back and considered how my life would have been different had I stayed interested.. and TBH while I love my life now, I can definitely see a lot of positives to such a different life.

Whiplashy · 22-07-2018 12:35AM

I’m a woman, so not a priest, but every so often I think of becoming a nun. I’m a complete atheist but when life gets s****y I find myself thinking it wouldn’t be so bad. I must check if there’s an upper age limit to see if I’m still in with a shot.

_Dara_ · 22-07-2018 12:58AM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Interesting thread but I fear the bilious mob will descend any minute.

People give AH very little credit and I don’t know why. There are many interesting threads here but people are always like “This is too serious for AH” or whatever. It’s very odd. Can’t we just see how things develop instead of preempting apparent disaster?

Fr_Dougal · 22-07-2018 12:58AM

Hail Mary, who art in heaven...

AfterLife · 22-07-2018 01:01AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I did a number of months in a seminary here in Ireland to get a "taste" of what it would be like, and again, as a child/young teen, i found it very interesting.

Do you think this experience and your families devout Catholic background may have coloured your views towards acceptance of other religions?

You're making a lot more sense to me here knowing the experiences you had as a youngster anyway.

DickSwiveller Returns · 22-07-2018 01:03AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

People give AH very little credit and I don’t know why. There are many interesting threads here but people are always like “This is too serious for AH” or whatever. It’s very odd. Can’t we just see how things develop instead of preempting apparent disaster?

What do you mean? My post was lamenting the fact that the thread - like many about religion in after hours - would be infested with Dawkins wannabes repeating their boring points ad nauseum. Surprisingly, that doesn't seem to have happened

gozunda · 22-07-2018 01:20AM

EPAndlee wrote: »

I'd rather start my own cult instead of joining someone elses

I refuse to join any cult that would have me as a member...

_Dara_ · 22-07-2018 01:46AM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

What do you mean? My post was lamenting the fact that the thread - like many about religion in after hours - would be infested with Dawkins wannabes repeating their boring points ad nauseum. Surprisingly, that doesn't seem to have happened

Well, so what if it did happen? That’s how messageboards work, different viewpoints are expressed and there is good reason for many people to really hate the Catholic church. Should atheists not contribute? Whether they’ll be boring or not is down to the individual poster. Atheism in and of itself isn’t boring, much like agnosticism or religiosity. Atheists are automatically labelled as tedious so often, as if religious contributors are never boring. It’s kinda small-minded.

DickSwiveller Returns · 22-07-2018 01:50AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Well, so what if it did happen? That’s how messageboards work, different viewpoints are expressed and there is good reason for many people to really hate the Catholic church. Should atheists not contribute? Whether they’ll be boring or not is down to the individual poster. Atheism in and of itself isn’t boring, much like agnosticism or religiosity. Atheists are automatically labelled as tedious so often, as if religious contributors are never boring. It’s kinda small-minded.

Except they don't express anything that could reasonably qualify as a 'viewpoint'. It's usually a mixture of nasty bile and abuse. Just read the thread about the Pope coming to Ireland and you'll see what I mean.

alaimacerc · 22-07-2018 01:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Their faith doesn't affect you.

It doesn't? Yay, a fully secular republic just happened, and I missed the memos!

_Dara_ · 22-07-2018 01:56AM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Except they don't express anything that could reasonably qualify as a 'viewpoint'. It's usually a mixture of nasty bile and abuse. Just read the thread about the Pope coming to Ireland and you'll see what I mean.

All the atheists?

Come on. And again, an angry viewpoint is not necessarily invalid.

AfterLife · 22-07-2018 02:02AM

alaimacerc wrote: »

It doesn't? Yay, a fully secular republic just happened, and I missed the memos!

He's very worried to the point of extremism about how other people's faith affects him though.

alaimacerc · 22-07-2018 02:13AM

Whiplashy wrote: »

I’m a woman, so not a priest, but every so often I think of becoming a nun. I’m a complete atheist but when life gets s****y I find myself thinking it wouldn’t be so bad. I must check if there’s an upper age limit to see if I’m still in with a shot.

Taytoland wrote: »

I'm not a papist, so no of course not.

Thoughtform wrote: »

I'm not a man, so no of course not. Pretty self explanatory that "papist" - also known as "catholic" - men were the ones being addressed.

Is it?

Is there nothing to be said for a spot of High Anglicanism?

(Granted, likely not very much to be said for it, either.)

Did anyone here ever consider becoming a Priest?

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