Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

secman · 20-07-2018 10:28PM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Which proven solid right back would you go for?

Croatia RB is better than what we currently have.don't you think ? Trippier is better than what we have.. ..why were we not in for Liverpool left full before he went to pool. Tierney off Celtic looks a good left full.. better than we have. But hey I don't get paid mega bucks to make these calls

Cantona's Collars · 20-07-2018 10:31PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I wonder what will happen with Dembele if they get Willian?
Wouldn't mind a loan for him with a view to a permanent deal,that lad has massive potential.

I said that before to friends,if he's available then the club should go for him.

IamtheWalrus · 20-07-2018 10:39PM

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Barcelona have made a 3rd bid in excess of £55 million for Willian.
For that price, I hope United don't try to bid against them.

If Barca think he's worth it, that's good enough for me.

Will I Am Not · 20-07-2018 10:46PM

Congrats to Axel Tuanzebe on his world record.

bangkok · 20-07-2018 10:49PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

This is the crux of the issue I feel.

Other clubs haven't messed around with money searching for value where it can't be found. Liverpool and City have just paid fees and got on with it whereas we're (reportedly) being put off by 5/10 million here and there for players like Alderweireld who could improve our team immensely if brought in.

Imo van djik is the best cb in the league and cost 75m.

Alderweild is 2 years older, in the last year of his contract and spurs are looking for 75m as well.

Too be honest i wouldnt go near levy for that price. Plenty of other excellent defenders for half the price and age

Adamcp898 · 20-07-2018 11:18PM

bangkok wrote: »

Imo van djik is the best cb in the league and cost 75m.

Alderweild is 2 years older, in the last year of his contract and spurs are looking for 75m as well.

Too be honest i wouldnt go near levy for that price. Plenty of other excellent defenders for half the price and age

That's fine if it's your opinion, to me he's the best in the league. But in any event I think most people can agree that he's one of the best CB's in the world and, most importantly, far beyond anything that we currently have.

Like I said in the last post, none of us know the true fee. Some reports suggest one "up to" £75 million, others say "upwards" of £50 million, others again say something different.

But the facts remain the same, we desperately need a quality CB and the reasonable price that a club can expect to pay for such based on recent transfers is within the £50-75 million range. There is one available for that price and we're not, as it appears, willing to go for it. His contract status doesn't affect how much we need a CB even though it can be used in any negotiation for his transfer.

And what other excellent defenders are available that are both half his age and half his price? There's so few of them that most top clubs in Europe have been willing to bend over backwards just to have a shot at one these past few years.

yabadabado · 20-07-2018 11:23PM

bangkok wrote: »

Imo van djik is the best cb in the league and cost 75m.

Alderweild is 2 years older, in the last year of his contract and spurs are looking for 75m as well.

Too be honest i wouldnt go near levy for that price. Plenty of other excellent defenders for half the price and age

I'd have Alderweireld ahead of him but agree with you wouldnt want to be paying similar price as Pool did for VVD.

Cant see United paying 30m + for a 15 year old :pac:

bangkok · 20-07-2018 11:29PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I'd have Alderweireld ahead of him but agree with you wouldnt want to be paying similar price as Pool did for VVD.

Cant see United paying 30m + for a 15 year old :pac:

Haha didnt mean half the age literally...

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 11:42PM

bangkok wrote: »

Haha didnt mean half the age literally...

but still... what top class CBs in their early/mid twenties are you seeing available for 35million?

City had to spend 57million to get Laporte, 50million for Stones. I reckon if you wanted to get Varane you'd be looking 100million to even get Madrid thinking about it.

Who is better/as good for the money you are talking about?

Trigger · 20-07-2018 11:45PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but still... what top class CBs in their early/mid twenties are you seeing available for 35million?

City had to spend 57million to get Laporte, 50million for Stones. I reckon if you wanted to get Varane you'd be looking 100million to even get Madrid thinking about it.

Who is better/as good for the money you are talking about?

Bonucci, though with Milan now allowed to play in Europe, its being reported that he could be staying with them, PSG are frontrunners if he moves..

other than him though.. none really

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 11:47PM

astradave wrote: »

Bonucci, though with Milan now allowed to play in Europe, its being reported that he could be staying with them, PSG are frontrunners if he moves..

other than him though.. none really

And he is older than Alderwerield - and Bangkok is saying we could get a younger player (assuming as good) for half what Spurs are said to be looking at for him.

Trigger · 20-07-2018 11:49PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

And he is older than Alderwerield - and Bangkok is saying we could get a younger player (assuming as good) for half what Spurs are said to be looking at for him.

Well the answer in short then is.. none

yabadabado · 20-07-2018 11:51PM

I'd safely say there is no CB aged 25-27 that could be got for 40/50m and is at Alderweireld level.
I'd love to be proven wrong.

yabadabado · 20-07-2018 11:52PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but still... what top class CBs in their early/mid twenties are you seeing available for 35million?

City had to spend 57million to get Laporte, 50million for Stones. I reckon if you wanted to get Varane you'd be looking 100million to even get Madrid thinking about it.

Who is better/as good for the money you are talking about?

Id have no problem if United spent upward of 100m on Varane.A class act.

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 11:55PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Id have no problem if United spent upward of 100m on Varane.A class act.

neither would I. None at all.

Trigger · 21-07-2018 12:09AM

Herrera talking about Dave, says he will stay because of the fans

"I remember that difficult summer when everyone was talking about Real Madrid and he played the first game at Old Trafford and everyone was singing his name and he told me 'this is amazing, they are the best',"

Full article here http://www.espn.co.uk/football/manchester-united/story/3570529/david-de-gea-will-stay-at-manchester-united-because-of-fans-ander-herrera

jayo26 · 21-07-2018 01:25AM

Only got around to watching the game the remarkable difference in out attack when having chong on. Mata didn't have to change position when martial went off he was already in the middle anyway I really really hope we get a right winger it has to be obvious.

thetimeisnow · 21-07-2018 01:41AM

Is Milan Skrinar any good

Giggsy11 · 21-07-2018 02:38AM

thetimeisnow wrote: »

Is Milan Skrinar any good

Awesome and best CB in Seria A. No point thoughm Inter won't sell him for any price this summer.

Giggsy11 · 21-07-2018 02:44AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but still... what top class CBs in their early/mid twenties are you seeing available for 35million?

City had to spend 57million to get Laporte, 50million for Stones. I reckon if you wanted to get Varane you'd be looking 100million to even get Madrid thinking about it.

Who is better/as good for the money you are talking about?

De Vrij was available on a free transfer and signed for Inter. If we wanted ball playing CB so badly, he was one of the best available and we barely made a move for him.

He is a good CB and just 26 years old, also free transfer .

If we are looking for proven players, then we can't sign anyone for 35 million, but that's where we are lacking. We have changed scouting staff, appointed some very good one from Juventus, Atletico Madrid. If they can't come up with a list of players good enough to start for us, then we have lot of issues.

Talisman · 21-07-2018 08:26AM

yabadabado wrote: »

I know it's not going to happen but I think Vrsaljko is a vey good RB and would be happy to see him signed.
Best we can hope for is Dalot turns out to be excellent and starts to force his way into first choice by mid season.

If a proper wide man is bought for the right side then RB is less of an issue.

Vrsaljko would be relatively cheap - Liverpool had a €25M offer accepted for him in December. He can also play at left back.

Talisman · 21-07-2018 08:28AM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

De Vrij was available on a free transfer and signed for Inter. If we wanted ball playing CB so badly, he was one of the best available and we barely made a move for him.

De Vrij didn't want to leave Italy.

yabadabado · 21-07-2018 08:39AM

Talisman wrote: »

Vrsaljko would be relatively cheap - Liverpool had a €25M offer accepted for him in December. He can also play at left back.

Inter strongly linked to him.
Valencia will be first choice,United won't be signing another RB.

Dave0301 · 21-07-2018 09:12AM

jayo26 wrote: »

Only got around to watching the game the remarkable difference in out attack when having chong on. Mata didn't have to change position when martial went off he was already in the middle anyway I really really hope we get a right winger it has to be obvious.

It was so frustrating last season watching Utd "attack" down the right. Not having an out and out right winger, along with Valencia hampered the team so much, and made it more straightforward for teams to set up against us.

If a right winger is not brought in, at the very least one of Rashford/Martial/Sanchez should be played there.

Cotts72 · 21-07-2018 09:24AM

We arent going to sogn a RB at least if we signna RW then Valencias attacking role will reduce and his flaws may not be so evident

How Soon Is Now · 21-07-2018 09:39AM

Another bid from Barca for William.

Lord TSC · 21-07-2018 10:00AM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Another bid from Barca for William.

Messi replacement for when he joins us? :pac:

How Soon Is Now · 21-07-2018 10:21AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Messi replacement for when he joins us? :pac:

Money been thrown around for players is crazy William is 30 and inconsistent enough at Chelsea.

Trigger · 21-07-2018 10:28AM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Another bid from Barca for William.

Reports over there are saying that we have a bid of 60m euro in too

https://twitter.com/sport_witness/status/1020576914157842432?s=21

yabadabado · 21-07-2018 10:52AM

astradave wrote: »

Reports over there are saying that we have a bid of 60m euro in too

https://twitter.com/sport_witness/status/1020576914157842432?s=21

The worrying thing is Chelsea fans don't seem to care about losing him.Always a bad sign imo.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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