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Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    :D You were left red faced. Accusing me of learner issues, thinking you had me backed into a corner and then bang, the realisation that you were completely wrong hit you like a ton of bricks.
    You've just resorted to lies and attacks to try to make yourself feel better today. It's only an online forum, don't get so upset over it.

    What in gods name are you on about? I have been catching up on this thread and you seem to be patting yourself on the back for making other posters angry. You have not caught anybody out or made anyone angry. Just a constant barrage of you trying to score imaginary points against men.

    Take a break from the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    Rory28 wrote: »

    What in gods name are you on about? I have been catching up on this thread and you seem to be patting yourself on the back for making other posters angry. You have not caught anybody out or made anyone angry. Just a constant barrage of you trying to score imaginary points against men.

    Take a break from the internet.
    She's flounced out of the thread numerous times with a declaration of same only to return with the usual man-hating, incoherent bile.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rory28 wrote: »
    What in gods name are you on about? I have been catching up on this thread and you seem to be patting yourself on the back for making other posters angry. You have not caught anybody out or made anyone angry. Just a constant barrage of you trying to score imaginary points against men.

    Take a break from the internet.

    I honestly don't know if it's really funny, really sad or a really really good troll!


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    I think somebody enjoys a little drinky-poos in the afternoon and then tires themselves out by evening time.

    Misandry is such exhausting work. Oh the drama!!

    Am, you have failed to point out what you disagree on? Do you think the huge majority of women who've told their stories are telling the truth? Do you not agree that most rapists are men but not most men are rapists? Speak to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    So you have no problem with people questioning individual stories as you are only hearing 1 side. Great I doubt a single person who are arguing with you or DONTMATTER have a problem with talking about harassment. The problem they have is the language used by some and how is seems only directed to men as trust me some women can be just as sleazy and go further then some men

    Again the harassment of men by women only raised as some kind of supposed counterargument to the harrassment of women by men.

    And the CDC in America did a study on sexual harassment and found that while men are harrassed just as much as women, they are actually mostly harrassed by other men. Claiming that harassment of men by women is even close to the levels of harassment of women by men is just plain false.

    I agree #notallmen. But ignoring the fact that the instigators of harrassment are overwhelmingly Male isn’t going to help anyone.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    I asked you this question before but you either missed it or ignored it is a simple yes or no answer. Do you believe all stories by women about harrssment or rape without question? Is it guilty until you prove yourself innocent?

    Here is my answer to that question and please read all of it.

    No I d not believe all these stories without question as that would be dangerous as someone could just make up a lie on someone they do not like..HOWEVER and please stay with me that does not mean I am Team Rapist or Team Harrassement as you like to paint us. It just means we want due process to play out.

    Now if you want to start a conversation how we can encourage people to go to the relevant people is relation to these so justice is done then I am all for it and with you front and center.

    You don't have to believe every story, that's not the point. The metoo campaign has highlighted the disgusting treatment of women by some men. In most cases it hasn't named any names, it's just sharing their story.
    It's a major issue and many women have suffered. You don't need every case to go to court to realise how big a problem it is. As I've said all along, we should be trying to stamp this behaviour out, that's the most important thing. How can anyone disagree with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Again the harassment of men by women only raised as some kind of supposed counterargument to the harrassment of women by men.

    And the CDC in America did a study on sexual harassment and found that while men are harrassed just as much as women, they are actually mostly harrassed by other men. Claiming that harassment of men by women is even close to the levels of harassment of women by men is just plain false.

    I agree #notallmen. But ignoring the fact that the instigators of harrassment are overwhelmingly Male isn’t going to help anyone.

    Nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Wolf whistles are street harassment. I’ve no issue with them being classified as such.

    I 100% reject the notion that the current movement has anything to do with women’s studies departments needing funding.

    There is nothing to indicate that metoo was instigated by anyone to do with academia or non profits, or that the experiences shared are part of an agenda to benefit academics or non profits. Sounds like a pure crazy conspiracy theory to me.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    That's #MeToo stuff right there.

    :D Oh dear, is your poor pride all hurty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I think somebody enjoys a little drinky-poos in the afternoon and then tires themselves out by evening time.

    Misandry is such exhausting work. Oh the drama!!

    Am, you have failed to point out what you disagree on? Do you think the huge majority of women who've told their stories are telling the truth? Do you not agree that most rapists are men but not most men are rapists? Speak to me.
    I couldn't possibly say if "the huge majority of women who've told their stories are telling the truth" because I am not privy to the intricacies of the accusations (neither are you, my dear).

    I do agree "that most rapists are men but not most men are rapists". I would say that's a fair conclusion to arrive at. I would also add that the vast, vast majority of men are repulsed by the idea of rape and rapists.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Translation. I'm talking through my fucking hole as per usual.

    Language! Take a chill pill. It's all on social media, go search for it if you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Ah another stock LLMMLLolcano response.. 'no you are, no you are'. :rolleyes:
    givyjoe wrote: »
    You're telling me!

    Too easy


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Rory28 wrote: »
    What in gods name are you on about? I have been catching up on this thread and you seem to be patting yourself on the back for making other posters angry. You have not caught anybody out or made anyone angry. Just a constant barrage of you trying to score imaginary points against men.

    Take a break from the internet.

    :D The opposite is the case, some angry men here have been trying to ridicule those who stand up for the brave women of the metoo movement. They have failed and made themselves look silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    I would also add that the vast, vast majority of men are repulsed by the idea of rape and rapists.

    No, no...did you not read what our feminist friend said earlier. All us MALE posters here are on the side of rapists and scumbags. You know, our pals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I honestly don't know if it's really funny, really sad or a really really good troll!

    It's weirdly entertaining..


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    She's flounced out of the thread numerous times with a declaration of same only to return with the usual man-hating, incoherent bile.

    Am I not allowed to say I'm leaving? Point out one sentence where I said anything man-hating? You can only think that if you consider all men as rapists because I've only attacked them and other scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    :D The opposite is the case, some angry men here have been trying to ridicule those who stand up for the brave women of the metoo movement. They have failed and made themselves look silly.

    Yea ok. I'm just going to put you on the ignore list as you are obviously a troll. I reported a few of your comments where you completely lied about what others have said but no action has been taking. All you have posted in this thread is drivel.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I honestly don't know if it's really funny, really sad or a really really good troll!

    Just to refresh your memory. Remember you were accusing me of hating all men and you thought you had a sentence that proved it? You were in hysterics claiming the mask had slipped etc.
    You then had to back down when it was pointed out that you had made a simple mistake with your understanding of the English language. You have been crying about it since. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    And suddenly the thread looks grand. I like this ignore feature.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,832 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Again the harassment of men by women only raised as some kind of supposed counterargument to the harrassment of women by men.

    And the CDC in America did a study on sexual harassment and found that while men are harrassed just as much as women, they are actually mostly harrassed by other men. Claiming that harassment of men by women is even close to the levels of harassment of women by men is just plain false.

    I agree #notallmen. But ignoring the fact that the instigators of harrassment are overwhelmingly Male isn’t going to help anyone.

    I agree men harass men men harass women and that should be stamped on and I say everyone here is in agreement. However you also pointed out women harass men and presumably women harass women while they are not in the same number why are they less important. When talking about harassment etc should we not talk in relation to everyone and educate everyone. Would you not agree 1 person been harrased is 2 much


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    py2006 wrote: »
    Nonsense.

    That's a fully factual post. Why are people disagreeing with cold, hard facts?


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rennaws wrote: »
    It's weirdly entertaining..

    It is. I honestly should put them on block but I know there's a meltdown coming soon and I wanna be front row for it.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Thousands upon thousands. And you're right, there's many more women who have suffered but haven't posted their stories. Many have told them in real life. Talk to your family? Your sisters? Listen to them, the truth is shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    DONTMATTER wrote: »

    Am I not allowed to say I'm leaving? Point out one sentence where I said anything man-hating? You can only think that if you consider all men as rapists because I've only attacked them and other scumbags.
    Yeah, you are having an absolute laugh if you think I'm trawling through the several dozen (at least), over-the-top, toxic drivel posts you've posted in this thread.

    Reading your posts once is more than enough, thank you.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Am I not allowed to say I'm leaving?

    Why do you say it every few pages only to come back a few hours later? Is it because you're an absolute liar and can't keep your word and like making stuff up like some of the the #MeToo brigade? Is that why?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    I couldn't possibly say if "the huge majority of women who've told their stories are telling the truth" because I am not privy to the intricacies of the accusations (neither are you, my dear).

    I do agree "that most rapists are men but not most men are rapists". I would say that's a fair conclusion to arrive at. I would also add that the vast, vast majority of men are repulsed by the idea of rape and rapists.

    Yes you could! Maybe you don't want to believe that the huge majority are telling the truth?

    You'll have to be careful with the part I've bolded! You will be sure to be accused of being a man hater and a sexist loony for saying stuff like that.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    You were in hysterics.

    You are absolutely mental.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Too easy

    :D


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