Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

Trigger · 18-07-2018 11:31AM

zorro2566 wrote: »

I think John Connelly played one game for England in the 66 Finals!

Would have never got that tbf

IamtheWalrus · 18-07-2018 11:32AM

Is Bale really that good or are we only interested because he's potentially gettable being British?

Cantona's Collars · 18-07-2018 11:36AM

Fabio has joined Nantes.

Liam McPoyle · 18-07-2018 11:36AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Mason Greenwood: Man United's best-kept secret and next big thing?

http://global.espn.com/football/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/3568926/mason-greenwood-might-be-man-uniteds-best-kept-secret-and-next-big-thing?src=com

Jose's anti youth policy continues apace.

Lord TSC · 18-07-2018 11:36AM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is Bale really that good or are we only interested because he's potentially gettable being British?

When fit, he's probably the best Right Winger in the world currently. Not being hyperbolic there either.

The question mark is over his ability to stay fit though. He seemed to miss a good bit of time with Real over the last few years.

brinty · 18-07-2018 11:40AM

Guys I hate to keep asking this question, but Bale is left footed and everyone wants him as a right winger. Surely that's a contradiction in itself. We all hammer Ashley for cutting in from Left Back to get on his right foot so why would we now buy a naturally left footed player to play on the right wing? Am i missing something here??

Trigger · 18-07-2018 11:45AM

brinty wrote: »

Guys I hate to keep asking this question, but Bale is left footed and everyone wants him as a right winger. Surely that's a contradiction in itself. We all hammer Ashley for cutting in from Left Back to get on his right foot so why would we now buy a naturally left footed player to play on the right wing? Am i missing something here??

Yep your missing the fact that it’s Gareth fooking Bale

jayo26 · 18-07-2018 11:46AM

brinty wrote: »

Guys I hate to keep asking this question, but Bale is left footed and everyone wants him as a right winger. Surely that's a contradiction in itself. We all hammer Ashley for cutting in from Left Back to get on his right foot so why would we now buy a naturally left footed player to play on the right wing? Am i missing something here??

Yeah your missing that he is the best right winger in the world it don't matter what foot he uses.

I've no problems with a winger cutting in the problem with Mata on the right is he stays in. Bale can work the line and then cut back on he left and cross which spreads the opposition defence and leaves gaps in the middle but at the moment they don't need to worry about the right so the middle is tightly packed with there left back and two center backs.

I've no problem with young on the left position he works well gets forward and stays wide enough to make the right back at least stay out there. So many of out attacks last year were focused on our left We need someone on the right to spread it.

bangkok · 18-07-2018 11:48AM

brinty wrote: »

Guys I hate to keep asking this question, but Bale is left footed and everyone wants him as a right winger. Surely that's a contradiction in itself. We all hammer Ashley for cutting in from Left Back to get on his right foot so why would we now buy a naturally left footed player to play on the right wing? Am i missing something here??

Because he does most of the damage from there...

Just like messi, salah, robben, all lethal left foots so better to play them there to cut inside and let fly

brinty · 18-07-2018 11:51AM

astradave wrote: »

Yep your missing the fact that it’s Gareth fooking Bale

Gareth who???
Unfortunately he's not really a needle mover ala a Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Pogba..

brinty · 18-07-2018 11:59AM

zorro2566 wrote: »

I think John Connelly played one game for England in the 66 Finals!

I checked it up on "the google", turns out he started the first game v Uruguay and then was sold by United in Sept-66

Trigger · 18-07-2018 12:02PM

brinty wrote: »

Gareth who???
Unfortunately he's not really a needle mover ala a Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Pogba..

Ah come off it. Of course he is a needle mover, he’s a feckin world class player

yabadabado · 18-07-2018 12:07PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is Bale really that good or are we only interested because he's potentially gettable being British?

A fit Bale is up there with the very best players around.
He would be a huge signing but its unlikely to happen imo.

pjohnson · 18-07-2018 12:08PM

Bale could be the new left back lads :pac:

brinty · 18-07-2018 12:11PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Bale could be the new left back lads :pac:

I like your thinking... but heard we're also in discussions with Roberto Carlos too???

brinty · 18-07-2018 12:13PM

So apparently some team have offered £67/€75m for a goalkeeper....

But so long as said teams "net spending" is in a certain range its all ok....

Wonder will their manager who spoke of quitting before he'd sanction spending striker money on defenders and goalkeepers be a man of his word...

TitianGerm · 18-07-2018 12:19PM

brinty wrote: »

So apparently some team have offered £67/€75m for a goalkeeper....

But so long as said teams "net spending" is in a certain range its all ok....

Wonder will their manager who spoke of quitting before he'd sanction spending striker money on defenders and goalkeepers be a man of his word...

Yup it's terrible that Klopp is spending big money to fix long standing problem areas in the team which have cost Liverpool so many points over the last few seasons.

Mitch Connor · 18-07-2018 12:19PM

brinty wrote: »

So apparently some team have offered £67/€75m for a goalkeeper....

But so long as said teams "net spending" is in a certain range its all ok....

Wonder will their manager who spoke of quitting before he'd sanction spending striker money on defenders and goalkeepers be a man of his word...

It was such a stupid thing for him to say at the time - and it was clearly stupid when he said it . no hindsight was required. I called it as stupid at the time. You could see where transfer fees were going.

He was doing a Trump. Playing soundbites to his supporters, lying, knowing they would never call him on it or be arsed about it.

xtal191 · 18-07-2018 12:21PM

Klopp would want to win atrophy next season with the amount he's spent

Adamocovic · 18-07-2018 12:21PM

brinty wrote: »

So apparently some team have offered £67/€75m for a goalkeeper....

But so long as said teams "net spending" is in a certain range its all ok....

Wonder will their manager who spoke of quitting before he'd sanction spending striker money on defenders and goalkeepers be a man of his word...

Mitch Connor · 18-07-2018 12:23PM

Also, whatever about the money being spent - Liverpool are being very impressive.

Needed an upgrade at CB - spent the money needed to get their target.
Needed an upgrade at CM - have spent the money, twice, to get their target.
Needed an upgrade at GK - have offered the money needed to get their target.

Identifying the positions they want to improve, and actively working to get the deals done. Impressive stuff from them and I wish United were as active in identifying and correcting weaknesses in the squad.

TitianGerm · 18-07-2018 12:24PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Klopp would want to win atrophy next season with the amount he's spent

I'd like to see a cup win (doesn't matter which one), a good run in the CL and to guarantee Top 4 again but not to be completely out of the title race before April.

bucketybuck · 18-07-2018 12:24PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Yup it's terrible that Klopp is spending big money to fix long standing problem areas in the team which have cost Liverpool so many points over the last few seasons.

A hypocrite is a hypocrite.

pjohnson · 18-07-2018 12:26PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

I'd like to see a cup win (doesn't matter which one), a good run in the CL and to guarantee Top 4 again but not to be completely out of the title race before April.

I'd say any title race for any club will depend on how City do tbh. They blew everyone away last year and if they repeat the same this year everyone else is competing for second.

xtal191 · 18-07-2018 12:28PM

At the moment Liverpool are looking like the only team who might even challenge City.

Get a ****ing move on Jose and Woodward

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 18-07-2018 12:29PM

Liverpool aren't fūcking around. Coutinho money being put to use.

Hope i can say the same for Utd by the end of the transfer window.

brinty · 18-07-2018 12:30PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

It was such a stupid thing for him to say at the time - and it was clearly stupid when he said it . no hindsight was required. I called it as stupid at the time. You could see where transfer fees were going.

He was doing a Trump. Playing soundbites to his supporters, lying, knowing they would never call him on it or be arsed about it.

Absolutely was a stupid thing to say but when you consider what he's said and now done it makes for eye watering reading

World record fee for a defender on Van Dijk £75m previous record was £50 by citeh a couple of times over .. think Laporte was then bought for 57m thereafter

Current record fee for a goalkeeper £34m by Citeh on Ederson... and we're looking at a fee of £67m for Allisson...

That's 50% on top of the then record for Van Dijk and 100% on top if this Allisson deal goes through... that's not incremental growth that's at rogue trading levels crazy

but hey so long as the "net spending" is ok...

Mitch Connor · 18-07-2018 12:30PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I'd say any title race for any club will depend on how City do tbh. They blew everyone away last year and if they repeat the same this year everyone else is competing for second.

At least Liverpool have acknowledged the gauntlet City have laid down and are working to challenge it. They are making sigficant improvements to their side

I honestly feel like United have collectively sighed and said "its impossible, lets just hope we can maintain 4th."

That can change over the next 3 weeks, but this summer has been a massive disappointment so far, and there are no indications that the business needed is going to get done.

We are looking as likely to go into the coming season with the same glaring defensive weaknesses and unbalanced attack.

At least Jose can still resort to hitting it long to Fellaini

Giggsy11 · 18-07-2018 12:32PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Also, whatever about the money being spent - Liverpool are being very impressive.

Needed an upgrade at CB - spent the money needed to get their target.
Needed an upgrade at CM - have spent the money, twice, to get their target.
Needed an upgrade at GK - have offered the money needed to get their target.

Identifying the positions they want to improve, and actively working to get the deals done. Impressive stuff from them and I wish United were as active in identifying and correcting weaknesses in the squad.

ManUtd wated
Striker - signed Lukaku
CB: Nailly and Lindelof
RB - Dalot
DM - Matic
Star midfielder - Pogba
Controlling one - Fred
Star wide player - Sanchez

Out of 10 outfield players, 8 are Jose's signings. We have identified and signed players, shame Jose didn't get best out of players.

TitianGerm · 18-07-2018 12:33PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I'd say any title race for any club will depend on how City do tbh. They blew everyone away last year and if they repeat the same this year everyone else is competing for second.

Oh I fully agree but it's up to the others not to drop so many silly points next season.

Liverpool and United both showed of you attack City they can be got at, so I don't expect so many teams to sit off them next season.

There definitely won't be as big a gap between 1st and 2nd next season. City won't get as many points and I'd expect the chasing pack to pick up an extra few points.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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