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Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

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  • #542
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I never said that i asked an honest question on the abuse you personally get as you seem to know allot about it.

    Also as you are a victim and we should do as you say unquestionably i am wondering what orders you have for us.

    Just stop doubting women and stand up against rapists and sex pests, not so difficult is it?


  • #543
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Is reading a problem amongst posters here?

    If there was any doubt before that you were midland missus reincarnated..


  • #544
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    There you go again with your sexist rubbish. All male posters on this thread are worrying ie dangerous. Deluded.
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    some.

    Yeah, you just said male posters. It's there in black and white. You said;
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Honestly, I'd advise any women to avoid male posters on this thread. Some very worrying posts.


  • #545
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Can't you read?

    I think the true meaning of that post may have gone over your head..

    And yes I can read..

    You seem to be getting a little irked..


  • #546
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Yep I don't doubt loads have had sh*tty experiences. You don't just get automatic belief in this world though because unfortunately there are scumbag psycho bitches who make stuff up for various reasons. That's why due process is a thing. That's why juries are a thing.

    Yes but not all the stories were about stuff that would go to court. And they weren't all lying. Maybe you believe some women are liars, this still leaves thousands of stories, thousands of women affected by this stuff. Let's support them.


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  • #547
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Alright, you think these women are all liars. You're entitled to your view. I'm just hoping the metoo campaign will at least educate some men on the reality. There's obviously no hope in educating some.


    That's... not my view though?

    As far as I can see the metoo campaign certainly has achieved it's aims of validating a certain class of professional whinger. It hasn't had any effect on people's daily lives other than anyone I know personally regarding it with contempt and ridicule.

    If you want to effect real change and educate people, it starts a lot closer to home than twitter. It starts with yourself. Educating other people requires a bit more effort than simply telling them they don't have a clue, and they should listen and believe what they're told without question.

    That isn't an attempt to educate anyone, it's an attempt to indoctrinate people with your own ideology, and that's what people disagree with, because it doesn't square with their reality.


  • #548
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    So what you're saying is...

    Welcome to my ignore list. :D


  • #549
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Just stop doubting women and stand up against rapists and sex pests, not so difficult is it?

    How else may i defend the honor of these women? should we track these sex pests down? how about mandatory re-education programs for all young males when they reach puberty?


  • #550
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I'm saying I'd advise women to avoid men on this thread, read what I post!

    Wait, I thought it was some? Hang on, let me underline it like you did when getting upset. Some. Your, admittedly very thin, veil has slipped. You're nothing but an out and out sexist. Basically, you're kinda what you profess to hate.


  • #551
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    givyjoe wrote: »
    If there was any doubt before that you were midland missus reincarnated..

    Who is that?


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  • #552
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Welcome to my ignore list. :D

    Perhaps you should add all of the men on the thread to that list. Safer all round.


  • #553
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Yeah, you just said male posters. It's there in black and white. You said;

    Yeah, avoid male posters, I didn't say all male posters!


  • #554
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I'm saying I'd advise women to avoid men on this thread, read what I post!

    Yes I get that.

    I’m asking you specifically, what are you suggesting?

    Why should women avoid men from this thread ?

    What do you think might happen ?


  • #555
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Some.
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I'm saying I'd advise women to avoid men on this thread, read what I post!
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Is reading a problem amongst posters here?

    Is it any wonder Missus? You're tying yourself up in knots here. It's either 'some' or men in general on this thread. You've posted both in the last 15 minutes.


  • #556
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Rennaws wrote: »
    I think the true meaning of that post may have gone over your head..

    And yes I can read..

    You seem to be getting a little irked..

    :D Not at all, it seems to be the angry men here who are blowing a fuse.


  • #557
    DavidLyons_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    So what you're saying is...
    Even Cathy Newman had the cop on to know when her deluded, irrational drivel was being exposed.

    This particular poster (with an unmistakable, rabid, unwaveringly closed-minded, "Midlands" posting style) is on another level altogether.


  • #558
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    That's... not my view though?

    As far as I can see the metoo campaign certainly has achieved it's aims of validating a certain class of professional whinger. It hasn't had any effect on people's daily lives other than anyone I know personally regarding it with contempt and ridicule.

    If you want to effect real change and educate people, it starts a lot closer to home than twitter. It starts with yourself. Educating other people requires a bit more effort than simply telling them they don't have a clue, and they should listen and believe what they're told without question.

    That isn't an attempt to educate anyone, it's an attempt to indoctrinate people with your own ideology, and that's what people disagree with, because it doesn't square with their reality.

    Women who've been raped and abused aren't professional whingers.


  • #559
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Just stop doubting women

    Not how the world works. That goes for both sexes. Stop getting irate about it.


  • #560
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Calhoun wrote: »
    How else may i defend the honor of these women? should we track these sex pests down? how about mandatory re-education programs for all young males when they reach puberty?

    No, just do what I said in my post. There's a good boy.


  • #561
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    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rennaws wrote: »
    I think the true meaning of that post may have gone over your head..

    And yes I can read..

    You seem to be getting a little irked..

    Upset I'd say, that was her go-to accusation last night before she quit for the 5th time. Exit 6 should be along anytime soon...


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  • #562
    DavidLyons_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    givyjoe wrote: »
    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Is reading a problem amongst posters here?

    If there was any doubt before that you were midland missus reincarnated..
    midlandsmisandrist


  • #563
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's coming up soon...

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  • #564
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Wait, I thought it was some? Hang on, lt me underline it like you did when getting upset. Some. Your, admittedly very thin, veil has slipped. You're nothing but an out and out sexist. Basically, you're kinda what you profess to hate.

    :D Saying avoid men on this thread is not the same as saying avoid all men on this thread!


  • #565
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    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Perhaps you should add all of the men on the thread to that list. Safer all round.

    A ''safe space'', if you will.


  • #566
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Perhaps you should add all of the men on the thread to that list. Safer all round.

    No, I'll just add men from this thread but not all of them. :D Oh sh1t, omack will be squirming now after he's realised his error.


  • #567
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Women who've been raped and abused aren't professional whingers.


    I wasn't referring to women who have been raped and abused. I was referring to a certain class of professional whinger which the metoo movement has given the validation they so desperately crave. There's nothing in that statement about women who have been raped and abused.


  • #568
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    No, I'll just add men from this thread but not all of them. :D Oh sh1t, omack will be squirming now after he's realised his error.

    No, please. Add all


  • #569
    eyerer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    The worst thing about the internet is that it has given dumbasses an opportunity to spout their drivel with no comeback.

    Personally I have female friends that have had bad experiences and I feel for them of course. But this media driven society places no concern on what happens to men. In fact men are routinely called creeps or losers if they do something a woman doesn't like. The media (or social media) never wanted to champion the **** I've had to go through, especially if it was done by women.


  • #570
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Rennaws wrote: »
    Yes I get that.

    I’m asking you specifically, what are you suggesting?

    Why should women avoid men from this thread ?

    What do you think might happen ?

    Well they won't believe what women tell them and be quite angry regularly. Avoid material.


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  • #571
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    One thing that used to be taught to anyone in 3rd level education was to question everything. If we don't question and just follow like sheep we are really setting a dangerous precedence in society and opening ourselves up for some real problems down the line.

    I think what your missing and confusing as anger from posters is just people saying to you that they aren't going to be sheep and just take for granted something said by a group particularly those from a feminist slant are saying as gospel.

    Most people do take metoo serious to a degree and have a strong dislike for rapists ect ect. One thing though i find funny though is that men are expected to back metoo by default even though its primarily a womens issue but when the shoe is on the other foot the support is not a two way street.


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