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16-07-2018 05:29PM

ceadaoin. wrote:

The singer Alison Moyet has been hounded off Twitter after receiving tons of abuse for daring to call herself a woman, rather than a "cis woman". Strangely enough, I've yet to see a man abused and criticised for referring to themselves as a man, or saying that they they prefer their sexual partners to be whatever biological sex. The vitriol and shaming is only ever aimed at women. Such progress. How can anyone defend this nonsense?

Are you suggesting that men aren't attacked for being a man?

ceadaoin. · 16-07-2018 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are you suggesting that men aren't attacked for being a man?

No. I'm not sure how you got that from my post?

I'm saying that men are never abused and hounded by these extreme trans rights activists if they refer to themselves as a "man" or refer to their biology (women have been attacked for referring to their reproductive systems, Ariana grande being the latest) or if they say that they would not be attracted to a trans person . Or at least, I've yet to see it.

16-07-2018 05:35PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The singer Alison Moyet has been hounded off Twitter after receiving tons of abuse for daring to call herself a woman, rather than a "cis woman".

I'm a man. Not a cis man. I was born male. I wasn't assigned anything at birth except for my name. Anyone who has a problem with that or takes offense to it can, quite simply, fcuk right off.

pc7 · 16-07-2018 05:37PM

Sorry what’s a cis man or woman? Googled it and saying what your identity is at birth. So in old money as a woman am I now a cis woman in new?

16-07-2018 05:40PM

pc7 wrote:

Sorry whatâ€™s a cis man or woman? Googled it and saying what your identity is at birth. So in old money as a woman am I now a cis woman in new?

Someone who was born with the genitals of the body they identify with. In other words, a man or a woman. Bizarre

16-07-2018 05:40PM

ceadaoin. wrote:

No. I'm not sure how you got that from my post?

Apologies. Must have misread

KrustyUCC · 16-07-2018 05:40PM

pc7 wrote: »

Sorry what’s a cis man or woman? Googled it and saying what your identity is at birth. So in old money as a woman am I now a cis woman in new?

Yeah exactly

a cis woman is a woman who identifies as female and was assigned a female sex at birth

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6227596/cis-cisgender-woman-man-meaning-transgender/

16-07-2018 05:42PM

pc7 wrote: »

Sorry what’s a cis man or woman? Googled it and saying what your identity is at birth. So in old money as a woman am I now a cis woman in new?

Yep that's it. If you don't use it, you're transphobic according to the lunatic fringes.

ceadaoin. · 16-07-2018 05:43PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah exactly

a cis woman is a woman who identifies as female and was assigned a female sex at birth

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6227596/cis-cisgender-woman-man-meaning-transgender/

Except in the vast vast majority of people, sex isn't "assigned", its observed and noted.

16-07-2018 05:44PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah exactly

a cis woman is a woman who identifies as female and was assigned a female sex at birth

Assigned at birth. It's gas isn't it? You can probably bet there's people out there that get offended if staff at the hospital doing their baby scan ask them if they'd like to know the sex of the baby.

pc7 · 16-07-2018 05:44PM

Bloody hell I feel old some days!

16-07-2018 05:45PM

pc7 wrote: »

Bloody hell I feel old some days!

That's ageist.

KrustyUCC · 16-07-2018 05:48PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Assigned at birth. It's gas isn't it? You can probably bet there's people out there that get offended if staff at the hospital doing their baby scan ask them if they'd like to know the sex of the baby.

Yeah it's mad stuff

Nobody I know would identify themselves as a cis man or cis woman

mickuhaha · 16-07-2018 05:50PM

I think humans are dimorphic and that about one in 20,000 people are born either with a male XX or female xy chromosome most of these cases not all leave these people unable to contribute to producing offspring. Chromosomes can't be changed by scientists yet as far as I know. I think people shouldn't be allowed to alter natural body development untill they are adults and responsible for themselves.

hatrickpatrick · 16-07-2018 06:56PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Strangely enough, I've yet to see a man abused and criticised for referring to themselves as a man, or saying that they they prefer their sexual partners to be whatever biological sex. The vitriol and shaming is only ever aimed at women.

Oh don't worry, there are many SJW-types out there who actually suggest that having a preference for "cis" people as sexual partners makes one a transphobic piece of sh!t, and that if you identify as straight, that means you can't have any reservations about hooking up with a trans person who identifies as the gender you are attracted to, or you're just an asshole.

These are of course the same people who go on about consent classes and so on, which makes it particularly peculiar to hear them shaming people for not being sexually attracted to some people, but sure there you go.

Calhoun · 16-07-2018 08:14PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Oh don't worry, there are many SJW-types out there who actually suggest that having a preference for "cis" people as sexual partners makes one a transphobic piece of sh!t, and that if you identify as straight, that means you can't have any reservations about hooking up with a trans person who identifies as the gender you are attracted to, or you're just an asshole.

These are of course the same people who go on about consent classes and so on, which makes it particularly peculiar to hear them shaming people for not being sexually attracted to some people, but sure there you go.

With all the drama around the Scarlett Johanson role it makes it look like they are trying to build up a privileged class for themselves. Its like in their mind a trans person can play any character but only a trans person may play a trans role.

dexter_morgan · 16-07-2018 11:08PM

Bring back the gays!

hatrickpatrick · 16-07-2018 11:10PM

Calhoun wrote: »

With all the drama around the Scarlett Johanson role it makes it look like they are trying to build up a privileged class for themselves. Its like in their mind a trans person can play any character but only a trans person may play a trans role.

And ironically, they'll use the "privilege" argument to justify that. In other words, anyone can behave any way they want, except straight people, white people, male people, and especially people who possess more than one of the aforementioned birthmarks of Satan.

BattleCorp · 17-07-2018 09:26AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

if you identify as straight, that means you can't have any reservations about hooking up with a trans person who identifies as the gender you are attracted to, or you're just an asshole.

I'm an a55hole so.

_Kaiser_ · 17-07-2018 09:29AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm an a55hole so.

Metoo. Only interested in 100% natural women. I'm not even fond of tattoos

18-07-2018 09:15AM

Nermal wrote: »

I note the IT today with a glowing profile of a doctor who performs gender 'affirmation' surgery...

Shes coming on for an interview shortly with Dave Fanning on RTE Radio1. Its quality advertising for her business.
(He's covering Tubbs)

https://twitter.com/RTERadio1/status/1019267234600906753

JRant · 19-07-2018 07:31AM

A spokesperson from TENI on radio this morning taking about giving children (under 16) the legal right to change their gender with parental consent. If the parents don't agree then they coukd go get a court order.

Now he talked about this helping many children but it must be a vanishingly small amount. He also said the recommendations came from an independent panel. However that panel was chaired by the head of TENI, so hardly independent.

Malayalam · 19-07-2018 07:41AM

JRant wrote: »

A spokesperson from TENI on radio this morning taking about giving children (under 16) the legal right to change their gender with parental consent. If the parents don't agree then they coukd go get a court order.

Now he talked about this helping many children but it must be a vanishingly small amount. He also said the recommendations came from an independent panel. However that panel was chaired by the head of TENI, so hardly independent.

Had to look up what TENI meant. I see it is coming to Ireland then. Bill 89 (2017) passed in Ontario, Canada, allows for the removal of children from parents, or foster families, if they are not supported to change gender.

Michael Couteau, the Minister of Child and Family Services (Ontario), and who initially introduced the bill, said that he would consider parental discrimination on the basis of gender identity “a form of abuse when a child identifies as one way and a caregiver is saying ‘No, you need to do this differently.'”

He continued, “If it’s abuse, and if it’s within the definition, a child can be removed from that environment and placed into protection where the abuse stops.”

The new law now requires a parent or legal guardian to “direct the child or young person’s education and upbringing in accordance with the child’s or young person’s creed, community identity and cultural identity.”

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/05/new-law-allows-government-to-take-children-away-if-parents-dont-accept-kids-gender-identity

This is what happens when people run to suckle at the teat of the state for every thing - give me my rights! etc - eventually the state becomes the first parent of our children.

The Bishop Basher · 19-07-2018 07:50AM

Canada used to appeal to me as somewhere I would live..

It's becoming less and less appealing these days..

Must be the global capital of political correctness gone too far..

BoJack Horseman · 19-07-2018 07:55AM

Stunning and brave.

Cabaal · 19-07-2018 08:21AM

Rennaws wrote: »

Canada used to appeal to me as somewhere I would live..

It's becoming less and less appealing these days..

Must be the global capital of political correctness gone too far..

Maybe Trump's America interests you more?

King of Kings · 19-07-2018 08:30AM

Cabaal wrote: »

Maybe Trump's America interests you more?

honestly yes.

Cabaal · 19-07-2018 08:48AM

King of Kings wrote: »

honestly yes.

Can I interest you in a property thats for sale in the Republic of Gilead?

The Bishop Basher · 19-07-2018 09:10AM

Cabaal wrote: »

Maybe Trump's America interests you more?

No thanks..

That's too far the other way..

I'm not a fan of extremes on either side..

King of Kings · 19-07-2018 09:41AM

Cabaal wrote: »

Can I interest you in a property thats for sale in the Republic of Gilead?

..im sure there is a joke there that im missing...

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