Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

bangkok · 15-07-2018 10:32PM

Delighted for Pogba. For all the stick he gets all the haters can shove it down their throats now. A world cup winning legend

How Soon Is Now · 15-07-2018 10:35PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

I can remember Giggs Ince and Sharpe going through rediculous celebrations too. It's not a new thing at all. Seeing grown men play out a routine they obviously rehearsed is fairly laughable to be fair though

Ya I remember Sharpes dance! Ah there's something about Pogba and Greizmann in perticular I want to love them as footballers but more see them start to irritate me.

JP Liz V1 · 15-07-2018 10:48PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Uh never been so meh about team winning the world cup. Bored me whole way threw. Diva players with ridiculous cringy celebrations.

Pogba better show the same effort for United next season or bascially **** him he can dance all way to another club.

I think Jose should try sell off Pogba now after his WC win, I do not think he is ever going to be a top player, legend at MU

How Soon Is Now · 15-07-2018 10:54PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think Jose should try sell off Pogba now after his WC win, I do not think he is ever going to be a top player, legend at MU

I'm in two minds about it to be honest. Part of me is thinking there's been many times we see what he can do at the club and you see how he can play at France this season surely!
Then I think that things haven't went how he obviously felt they where going to go coming back to united.

He seems to be going around with this constant attitude now everytime he performs or wins something there's a reaction to the crowd or camera.

Little stabs at Jose or loose comments about where he rather be playing or where he's comfortable.

I dunno what his frame of mind is at the club now and will be interesting to see how he performs when he returns to the club.

If he doesn't perform early in the season who's gonna get the blame?

thetimeisnow · 15-07-2018 10:54PM

Anyone know why Sanchez isnt on the tour

15-07-2018 10:55PM

Never forget

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/graeme-souness-urges-france-boss-12676747

Trigger · 15-07-2018 10:57PM

thetimeisnow wrote: »

Anyone know why Sanchez isnt on the tour

Supposedly he is being given extra time at home due to him not having a proper summer off in 7/8 years, he’s due to join up with the squad at a later date

jayo26 · 15-07-2018 11:03PM

astradave wrote: »

Supposedly he is being given extra time at home due to him not having a proper summer off in 7/8 years, he’s due to join up with the squad at a later date

He was in Carrington tho how much time does he need.

Headshot · 15-07-2018 11:07PM

Those dogs don't walk themselves

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:08PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think Jose should try sell off Pogba now after his WC win, I do not think he is ever going to be a top player, legend at MU

Sell him for 40m to liverpool

beno619 · 15-07-2018 11:12PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

If he doesn't perform early in the season who's gonna get the blame?

José that narrative has already begun the on rte. "Why can't José get Pogba playing like Deschamps can" ect.

A lot of fans also seem to think it's a make or break season for Jose.

How Soon Is Now · 15-07-2018 11:18PM

beno619 wrote: »

José that narrative has already begun the on rte. "Why can't José get Pogba playing like Deschamps can" ect.

A lot of fans also seem to think it's a make or break season for Jose.

If he doesn't get the players needed in time for next month he's done anyway.

We won't even come close next season.

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:21PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Fifa gifting the WC to France. First goal from a blatant dive and the second from a bullshìt penalty.

Pogba invisible too.

Pogba was one of the best players on the pitch and man of the match in a lot of papers.

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:22PM

astradave wrote: »

Supposedly he is being given extra time at home due to him not having a proper summer off in 7/8 years, he’s due to join up with the squad at a later date

So whats he doing while squad is on tour?? Bit of a strange one

Lord TSC · 15-07-2018 11:23PM

beno619 wrote: »

José that narrative has already begun the on rte. "Why can't José get Pogba playing like Deschamps can" ect.

A lot of fans also seem to think it's a make or break season for Jose.

Even as he of his bigger supporters....it is make or break.

He's set the bar himself by finishing second last season. He either needs to win the league or play some of the craziest football and come solidly second next year to continue "progression".

Limping towards second with boring football won't be good enough next season.

Trigger · 15-07-2018 11:24PM

jayo26 wrote: »

He was in Carrington tho how much time does he need.

Dunno, there was something about Jose wanting him to have a better rest so he is fit and firing for the start of the season. Big difference to the types of training at carrington and in the states, the early training before jetting off just seemed to be light work

Drumpot · 15-07-2018 11:26PM

beno619 wrote: »

José that narrative has already begun the on rte. "Why can't José get Pogba playing like Deschamps can" ect.

A lot of fans also seem to think it's a make or break season for Jose.

Perfect example of how players have the power to absolutely destroy a manager and ultimately a teams success.

If Pogba doesn’t perform (assuming he’s at the club) next season people will blame Jose when there’s no reason he can’t bring this form back to his club. Some played don’t work well with certain managers well it’s odd if the only two managers Pogba couldn’t work with were sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho. Two of the most successful managers of their time.

This whole “why do people hate pogba” bollox has to stop. It’s a throw out statement when you can’t objectively defend a player And want to derail reasonable discussions.

I don’t hate him, I only care what he will bring and do for united. It’s nice to see united players do well for their country but not if they can’t or won’t bring that same dedication to united. Pogbas performances have been underpinned by hard work, solid defensive covering and energetic displays. There is no reason he can’t do it for united and no excuse if it doesn’t come off. Its ridiculous to blame a world class coach if a world class player won’t put in a decent shift for a team. If it’s a choice of sacking Jose in the hope that Pogba actually starts performing or sell Pogba it’s no contest for me.

AidoEirE · 15-07-2018 11:31PM

bangkok wrote: »

Delighted for Pogba. For all the stick he gets all the haters can shove it down their throats now. A world cup winning legend

Lets not get ahead of ourselfs here, he's been critcised here because he doesnt do the job for us.
Credit to him he's had a good WC and cut the none sensicle stuff outta his game for it.
I'll be raging if he starts pulling the stupid **** again next season for us

J. Marston · 15-07-2018 11:33PM

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba was one of the best players on the pitch and man of the match in a lot of papers.

Not in the first half he wasn't, when I actually made that post...

secman · 15-07-2018 11:36PM

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba was one of the best players on the pitch and man of the match in a lot of papers.

Couldn't give a fck what he does for France, United pay him handsomely and he has been very poor over the last 2 seasons. Croatia midfield owned the ball for long periods of play.

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:39PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Perfect example of how players have the power to absolutely destroy a manager and ultimately a teams success.

If Pogba doesn’t perform (assuming he’s at the club) next season people will blame Jose when there’s no reason he can’t bring this form back to his club. Some played don’t work well with certain managers well it’s odd if the only two managers Pogba couldn’t work with were sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho. Two of the most successful managers of their time.

This whole “why do people hate pogba” bollox has to stop. It’s a throw out statement when you can’t objectively defend a player And want to derail reasonable discussions.

I don’t hate him, I only care what he will bring and do for united. It’s nice to see united players do well for their country but not if they can’t or won’t bring that same dedication to united. Pogbas performances have been underpinned by hard work, solid defensive covering and energetic displays. There is no reason he can’t do it for united and no excuse if it doesn’t come off. Its ridiculous to blame a world class coach if a world class player won’t put in a decent shift for a team. If it’s a choice of sacking Jose in the hope that Pogba actually starts performing or sell Pogba it’s no contest for me.

Couldnt work with fergie?? He left when he was 18 and dominated in the seria a with juventus

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:40PM

secman wrote: »

Couldn't give a fck what he does for France, United pay him handsomely and he has been very poor over the last 2 seasons. Croatia midfield owned the ball for long periods of play.

He was europa league player of the season in his first year with utd

AidoEirE · 15-07-2018 11:41PM

bangkok wrote: »

He was europa league player of the season in his first year with utd

Dont pull this **** man, he's been piss poor for us, end of story.

Drumpot · 15-07-2018 11:43PM

bangkok wrote: »

Couldnt work with fergie?? He left when he was 18 and dominated in the seria a with juventus

He chose to leave instead of working with SAF. It’s just a fact, an inconvenient one for your constant ridiculous defence of a player who has yet to show the club what he can do for the club...

You can only quote things he has done for other clubs or country. Why should that be a defence for 2 years of mediocrity for united? That only helps united negotiate a sale price it doesn’t help us on the pitch if you are quoting Juve or France next season if he reverts back to last seasons form.

15-07-2018 11:50PM

Pogba's best moments this WC came playing through balls on the break to Mbappe. Who in attack for United has the pace and power to do what Mbappe was doing to get to them and hold off defenders? You'd argue that Sanchez could do it but he's always coming deep. You'd argue that Lukaku could do it but he's always in a more congested central area and his touch isn't upto it a lot of the time.

The wide forward positions either dropping deep or playing too defensively to start with is a problem which means Pogba has to spend more time on the ball or play lower percentage passes. The team set up in a way that's tough for him to excel like he has this WC. Hopefully that changes this season.

bangkok · 15-07-2018 11:51PM

I just dont think we will do anything this season under mourinho. Valencia captain, ashley young left back, no right winger (as of yet) we are in for another season of mediocrity

AidoEirE · 15-07-2018 11:55PM

Liam O wrote: »

Pogba's best moments this WC came playing through balls on the break to Mbappe. Who in attack for United has the pace and power to do what Mbappe was doing to get to them and hold off defenders? You'd argue that Sanchez could do it but he's always coming deep. You'd argue that Lukaku could do it but he's always in a more congested central area and his touch isn't upto it a lot of the time.

The wide forward positions either dropping deep or playing too defensively to start with is a problem which means Pogba has to spend more time on the ball or play lower percentage passes. The team set up in a way that's tough for him to excel like he has this WC. Hopefully that changes this season.

Bull**** tbf man, you cant say mbabbe gets the best out Pogba yet criticise Sanchez and Lukaku for us. Pogba tries this worldie stuff against a Burnley team, yet in the WC does the simple stuff and does it right against far better opposition.
Thats down to the player himself not the people around him.
Lukaku and sanchez are a dream outlet of players in a game of football, Pogba just takes to long to release or he looses possesion with his daft step overs and over complication

Will I Am Not · 15-07-2018 11:55PM

Signing Mbappe is the only logical option :pac:

bangkok · 16-07-2018 12:01AM

AidoEirE wrote: »

Bull**** tbf man, you cant say mbabbe gets the best out Pogba yet criticise Sanchez and Lukaku for us. Pogba tries this worldie stuff against a Burnley team, yet in the WC does the simple stuff and does it right against far better opposition.
Thats down to the player himself not the people around him.
Lukaku and sanchez are a dream outlet of players in a game of football, Pogba just takes to long to release or he looses possesion with his daft step overs and over complication

He did all the simple stuff against chelsea at home this season and it still wasnt enough for some.

AidoEirE · 16-07-2018 12:04AM

bangkok wrote: »

He did all the simple stuff against chelsea at home this season and it still wasnt enough for some.

So you've went from being the europa league player of the tournament to 1 game against chelsea argument.....wtf
Could count more games where fellani had a great game as well but with your rose tinted glasses you wouldn't agree.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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