Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

yabadabado · 13-07-2018 11:10AM

astradave wrote: »

As I said though, Sanchez can play on the right, very well in fact

Yet Jose hasn't used him there bar maybe once or twice.
Since he's joined it's not option that has gotten any use and I doubt it will at this stage.

Hotblack Desiato · 13-07-2018 11:13AM

How quickly yiz forget lads.

I am a slave, says Ronaldo as he pushes for Madrid move

paulbok · 13-07-2018 11:15AM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

How quickly yiz forget lads.

I am a slave, says Ronaldo as he pushes for Madrid move

Player wanting to leave club, agrees with someone else saying he should be allowed to leave shocker

bangkok · 13-07-2018 11:19AM

astradave wrote: »

As I said though, Sanchez can play on the right, very well in fact

Yea but he is too much of a "star" now to go back to the right

Bret Hart · 13-07-2018 11:20AM

ElChe32 wrote: »

Chelsea officially sack Conte.. don't think Jose will be losing his hair over that decision.

He who laughs last and all that.

BenK · 13-07-2018 11:28AM

That Maguire transfer story is hopefully not true at all. It would be a real Karel Poborsky/Kleberson type signing- player has a decent tournament and all of a sudden he's flavour of the month.

That's not accounting for the majority of poor teams England actually played against in the world cup as well. While not a bad player he's no major improvement on any of the centre backs at the club already.

Mitch Connor · 13-07-2018 11:28AM

astradave wrote: »

Before moving to Arsenal, Sanchez was RW though so could see an imterchanging three of Perisic Lingard and Sanchez behind Lukaku or Sanchez and Perisic either side of Lukaku in a 3

I argued that when we were signing Sanchez, but he has not been used in that way at all - so I don't see Sanchez on the right as being a viable discussion point, I just don't see evidence that Jose is considering him for there.

Mitch Connor · 13-07-2018 11:31AM

BenK wrote: »

That Maguire transfer story is hopefully not true at all. It would be a real Karel Poborsky/Kleberson type signing- player has a decent tournament and all of a sudden he's flavour of the month.

That's not accounting for the majority of poor teams England actually played against in the world cup as well. While not a bad player he's no major improvement on any of the centre backs at the club already.

i somewhat agree - but people have been raving about Maguire since way before the WC, he has been getting plaudits for the last 2 seasons.

What would annoy me more is that he isn't suddenly twice the player he was - so if we consider him a 50million target this summer, why didn't we go for him last summer?

It points to very poor scouting/recruitment/decision making by the club.

Cantona's Collars · 13-07-2018 11:41AM

Yahoo sports.

"Alderweireld move to United could be back on,the player is still keen on the move.United have now been given some encouragement that a compromise can still be reached, with Alderweireld and his advisers making it clear that they are keen to finalise the transfer in the window that will end for Premier League clubs on Thursday, August 9th."

Ashbourne hoop · 13-07-2018 11:42AM

Maguire looks a far better centre half than Smalling, Jones and Rojo. Is he worth the reported fee ? Probably not but he'd be a good signing for Utd in my opinion.

DM_7 · 13-07-2018 11:45AM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Maguire looks a far better centre half than Smalling, Jones and Rojo. Is he worth the reported fee ? Probably not but he'd be a good signing for Utd in my opinion.

Based on what games?

Trigger · 13-07-2018 11:47AM

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Yahoo sports.

"Alderweireld move to United could be back on,the player is still keen on the move.United have now been given some encouragement that a compromise can still be reached, with Alderweireld and his advisers making it clear that they are keen to finalise the transfer in the window that will end for Premier League clubs on Thursday, August 9th."

You zerked that one bad dude!

astradave wrote: »

I want to buy them all apart from one..

Anyhow.. back to some sort of news

https://twitter.com/sport_witness/status/1017402789150855168?s=21

Ashbourne hoop · 13-07-2018 11:50AM

Based on games I've seen him play for Leicester and England, admittedly not many for them, and games I've seen the other 3 play for Utd. All 3, Smalling in particular, are prone to errors. I think Maguire is an upgrade, maybe not a 40m upgrade, but an upgrade none the less. Could be that he's just had a good World Cup, like Vida from Croatia. I'd prefer Alderweireld anyway.

yourdeadwright · 13-07-2018 12:08PM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Based on games I've seen him play for Leicester and England, admittedly not many for them, and games I've seen the other 3 play for Utd. All 3, Smalling in particular, are prone to errors. I think Maguire is an upgrade, maybe not a 40m upgrade, but an upgrade none the less. Could be that he's just had a good World Cup, like Vida from Croatia. I'd prefer Alderweireld anyway.

England's style has helped Maguire no end,
He doesn't cope as well in a flat four with full backs pushed on as there is to much space for him to defend and get dragged into and spun ,
With 3 at the back he is covered , Don't underestimate the difference this makes.

Hotblack Desiato · 13-07-2018 12:12PM

Smalling may as well retire if VAR comes into the PL, he'd be giving away a penalty a half.

Ashbourne hoop · 13-07-2018 12:23PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

England's style has helped Maguire no end,
He doesn't cope as well in a flat four with full backs pushed on as there is to much space for him to defend and get dragged into and spun ,
With 3 at the back he is covered , Don't underestimate the difference this makes.

Quite possible. Could be one of those players who just had a really good tournament, there's been plenty of them.

Mitch Connor · 13-07-2018 12:33PM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Quite possible. Could be one of those players who just had a really good tournament, there's been plenty of them.

He has proven himself somewhat in the PL, but it could be similar to other defenders we have seen look good at bottom half the clubs - Michael Keane being a recent example. Look good when it is in a defensive block, closer to goal with less space. Things are different when they are in a more attacking team, with more space between them and the goal, and more space between them and the midfield.

Lord TSC · 13-07-2018 01:25PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I read/heard during the week that he thinks he can win the CL at June and have won it at 3 clubs.

That and not wanting to subject himself to the weather in Manchester.

No joke, but every summer when I got muppety about Ronnie "coming home", my mother always laughed and said it would never happen, because she read an article years ago that Ronaldo's mother (who he is apparently very close to) HATED the Manchester weather and vowed never to go back.

Mr.Crinklewood · 13-07-2018 01:41PM

A belated happy birthday to Bebé.

#foreverinourhearts

bangkok · 13-07-2018 01:46PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

No joke, but every summer when I got muppety about Ronnie "coming home", my mother always laughed and said it would never happen, because she read an article years ago that Ronaldo's mother (who he is apparently very close to) HATED the Manchester weather and vowed never to go back.

Turin weather is just as bad if not worse in winter

Cotts72 · 13-07-2018 01:46PM

Ive been a fan of maguire the last year, he had a solid world cup and was very impressed with his ability to wlak the ball out of defence with the odd few marauding dribbles.. The difference tho is he had 2 other cb to cover him and allow him that bit of freedom, at united he wouldnt. Hes a good defender but not the CB we need at this moment. We need an ex0erienced leader that can tra sition our younger defenders over the nexr 2-3 yrs

20 Times 20 Times · 13-07-2018 01:47PM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Quite possible. Could be one of those players who just had a really good tournament, there's been plenty of them.

Karel Porborsky

brinty · 13-07-2018 01:56PM

20 Times 20 Times wrote: »

Karel Porborsky

God it pains me that Fergie overlooked Zidane having a poor tournament for Poborsky who had a great one. From stories they had all scouted and signed off on Zidane but the poor '96 tournament and reported fee of £5m ruled him out.. to think years later fergie claimed he'd win multiple champions leagues with Zidane and 10 pieces of wood.... what could and should've been

Ashbourne hoop · 13-07-2018 02:00PM

brinty wrote: »

God it pains me that Fergie overlooked Zidane having a poor tournament for Poborsky who had a great one. From stories they had all scouted and signed off on Zidane but the poor '96 tournament and reported fee of £5m ruled him out.. to think years later fergie claimed he'd win multiple champions leagues with Zidane and 10 pieces of wood.... what could and should've been

Never heard about that. Madness

13-07-2018 02:06PM

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1017718095388008448?s=19

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 13-07-2018 02:15PM

brinty wrote: »

God it pains me that Fergie overlooked Zidane having a poor tournament for Poborsky who had a great one. From stories they had all scouted and signed off on Zidane but the poor '96 tournament and reported fee of £5m ruled him out.. to think years later fergie claimed he'd win multiple champions leagues with Zidane and 10 pieces of wood.... what could and should've been

Where did he say that? I only remember he wasn’t signed to accommodate Eric the king

jayo26 · 13-07-2018 02:53PM

Right lads I know loads are intrested so I'll try post up some pre season pics of the United womens team.

lightshot

Alot of talent in that squad and experience too.

brinty · 13-07-2018 02:55PM

Sure Eric retired in '96 so why would they not have bought him then, he left Bordeaux in '96 to join Juve

brinty · 13-07-2018 02:56PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Right lads I know loads are intrested so I'll try post up some pre season pics of the United womens team.

lightshot

Alot of talent in that squad and experience too.

You're a fantatsic hype man jayo....

jayo26 · 13-07-2018 02:57PM

brinty wrote: »

You're a fantatsic hype man jayo....

Someone has to try get it up for them.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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