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Paddy Losty the pintman

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  • #32
    StringerBell
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    Ah to be fair he wouldn't drink often, but when he would he'd go at it awful and hard. Don't even think about stopping him the second day either, Jesus he'd take the shirt off any man's back after a good fry up

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #33
    Hector Savage
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    OK beaten to it ... but seriously, maybe he said 4 to 5 pints in about 2 hours ???

    and then 10 more ... that would be more "reasonable" levels of alcoholism


  • #34
    FrancieBrady
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    Sometimes I think our problem is with bravado and drink or the ability to count.

    I worked in a pub for a while and many many times you would hear fella's say, 'jaysus I had 15 pints last night'.

    'No you didn't, you had 7 pints and fell asleep in the corner'.


  • #35
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    OK beaten to it ... but seriously, maybe he said 4 to 5 pints in about 2 hours ???

    and then 10 more ... that would be more "reasonable" levels of alcoholism

    Not really, sure twas well broken up with a packet of crips then and maybe a packet of peanuts

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #36
    Hector Savage
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    I used to go to college with a guy and he had a serious drink problem - more the character he turned into when he was drunk an obnoxious asshole that was unrecognizable then the actual amount he drank.

    Anyway the most I ever saw him drink was 20, and that was over the course of a day during rag week ..


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  • #37
    Sprinter Sacre
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    https://youtu.be/stRINgcyLQU


  • #38
    Outlaw Pete
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    Norm!!


  • #39
    marketty
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    My heart sank when I saw the thread title, thought we had lost another legend.

    Pintmen built this country, have some respect.


  • #40
    whisky_galore
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    marketty wrote: »

    Pintmen built this country.

    No wonder nearly every street is crooked.


  • #41
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,999 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    van_man wrote: »
    in ireland we often celebrate the kind of people who would be labelled " losers " in the likes of the usa

    growing up , i was aware of men with six children ( one had ten ) who spent most waking minutes on a high stool , it never done their parish reputation a bit of harm , i was at school with the kids and they were poorly dressed and ate the same basic lunch every day , stands to reason they had to go with less , incredibly selfish men when you think about it

    addiction is an incredible selfish act


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  • #42
    whisky_galore
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    van_man wrote: »
    in ireland we often celebrate the kind of people who would be labelled " losers " in the likes of the usa

    "A great man for the pints" - Professional alcoholic.

    "He's tough out" - Uncommunicative, possible mental health issues.

    "Cute" - Devious and calculating, if a politician, quite possibly corrupt.


  • #43
    Wanderer78
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    van_man wrote: »
    neither has taking a liberal approach , the theory that alcoholism is a disease is some pile of rubbish

    have you ever heard of a starving person in india or sudan been described as an alcoholic ?, they get every other disease funnily enough but not alcoholism , only disease which costs money

    yes, i have seen impoverished people in developing countries struggling with alcoholism and drug addiction, addiction doesnt care for your socioeconomic back round. i dont call addiction a disease, its a highly complex disorder that requires certain professional help, but addicts to must play their part, they must want to be helped and to change, its common they dont, such is the complexity of the issue


  • #44
    Grayson
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    No he was married, didn't Maureen have the fry on for him in the morning .... and then he'd go at it again, and no ****ing man would stap him ... he'd take the shirt off any mans back ....bastards.

    Not sure the guy ate. I had an uncle who drank everyday. When he retired he turned into one of these guys. He'd have a slice of toast in the morning and a slice in the evening and that was it. Besides that he'd drink guinness all day long. He died at 72 from a massive stroke.

    It was mainly men that do this. It's not that women don't binge drink but when they did people would look down on them, whereas men were viewed differently. The fact that this guy was called a pintman is proof of that.


  • #45
    Wanderer78
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    van_man wrote: »
    do the same attitudes exists in places like italy , spain etc ( traditionally catholic countries ) ?

    ive only worked in traditionally protestant countries ( usa ,canada , new zealand ) and they are far more unforgiving of that kind of carry on

    ive very little experiences in those countries but yea they probably do, this is more than likely a human problem with its own cultural twists


  • #46
    Wanderer78
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    van_man wrote: »
    ive no doubt its extremely difficult to beat addiction , i believe addictions are a terrible affliction and that the person is suffering , i do feel sorry for them as they are not happy

    my sole point is that they are not diseases and labeling them diseases is not helpful as it actually strips the person of hope

    our common labels probably are not helping, but we may not truly understand addiction, but incredible research has been done on it though


  • #47
    flookdgates
    Site Banned Posts: 67 ✭✭flookdgates


    cdeb wrote: »
    What, because of one person most people have never heard of, being trumpeted on clickbait websites, on the basis of a book which may or may not be correct?

    That's enough for you to try shame the entire country, and suggest every Irish person should "readjust their attitude to alcohol and grow up?"

    **** off.

    Amazing. I don't appreciate being told to **** off by a mod. In my experience the regular users of this site are decent people who are able to engage in civil conversation. The mods however don't seem to know how to socially interact with others. Is it a consequence of computer nerds sitting at their keyboards all day and never talking with real humans face to face?


  • #48
    whisky_galore
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    van_man wrote: »
    do the same attitudes exists in places like italy , spain etc ( traditionally catholic countries ) ?

    ive only worked in traditionally protestant countries ( usa ,canada , new zealand ) and they are far more unforgiving of that kind of carry on

    Probably not alcohol, the idea of getting p*ssed purely for the sake of getting p*ssed is not really a thing there.

    It's more about savouring it and enjoying it with food.

    I'm sure they have ways of papering over the cracks of other social failings.


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
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    Without doubt the acceptance of alcohol abuse as normal in this society brings some grade A idiots out of the woodwork. There was one on this website a couple of nights ago saying he was going out and that he'll "have 8 pints and not a drop more as I’ve work in the morning".

    I don't know which is more pathetic, that an adult is bragging about everything he's going to drink, or the fact that he thinks it's normal to drink 8 pints on a night out. It's not fúcking normal. It's just not no matter how much of a "lad" you want to pretend to be.

    Ireland has far too many of these people. It's long past the time that alcohol abuse is not romanticised and instead starts being treated like the serious blight on our society that it is. Culturally, this society is so backward and thoroughly immature in its acceptance of alcohol abuse. Culture changes - it's now unacceptable to smoke, send pregnant women to industrial schools, and so much else. It's long past time the Irish and their legislators grew up about alcohol abuse and made it culturally unacceptable.


  • #50
    Wanderer78
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    van_man wrote: »
    another guy from where i grew up was brilliant at what he did for a living but a chronic alcoholic , he made shane mc gowan look like a tea totaller , his wife left him when he was in his thirties with their daughter , this man saw pints as a waste and lived on whiskey , he was perma intoxicated , he had to be driven to work whenever he did work as he hadnt time to sober up , died a few years ago having fallen down the stairs of his ramshack home

    this guy was again loved locally , luckily his wife had enough sense to leave him young and the kid never suffered as a result

    doubt that, it always leaves its emotional scares


  • #51
    razorblunt
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    WesternZulu wrote: »
    Pintmans not the hero Ireland deserves but the one it needs right now.

    "nobody cared about who I was ... until I put blackcurrant in my Guinness"


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  • #52
    Grayson
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    van_man wrote: »
    the mods on this site are PC fascists who hate free speech full stop !

    what else is there to know about them ?

    He's a mod of chess and whatever mtest is. There's hundreds of small forums here and the mods are just there because they're one of the few that post regularly. And regularly in those forums could be once a week. You certainly couldn't compare him with an AH mod.


  • #53
    cdeb
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    flookdgates wrote: »
    Amazing. I don't appreciate being told to **** off by a mod. In my experience the regular users of this site are decent people who are able to engage in civil conversation. The mods however don't seem to know how to socially interact with others. Is it a consequence of computer nerds sitting at their keyboards all day and never talking with real humans face to face?
    And I don't appreciate being patronised and told to grow up by someone who thinks clickbait articles on a book from years ago which may or mayn't even be true are somehow relevant to anything today.

    What's your point?


  • #54
    sbsquarepants
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    van_man wrote: »
    neither has taking a liberal approach , the theory that alcoholism is a disease is some pile of rubbish

    have you ever heard of a starving person in india or sudan been described as an alcoholic ?, they get every other disease funnily enough but not alcoholism , only disease which costs money

    You don't think you get poor alcoholics? Or other addicts for that matter?

    Also what you're doing is confusing disease and responsibility.

    Just because you've brought something on yourself doesn't mean it's not a disease, and vice versa - just because it's a disease doesn't mean it's not your fault.

    Spend your days eating cakes and chocolates and you'll likely get diabetes - It would be both your own fault and a disease would you not agree?
    Share needles and get hepatitis or aids - also a disease and it's also your own fault.


  • #55
    Grayson
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  • #56
    Fart
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    I moved to Norway about a year ago and they say they drink alot.

    No they don't! Irish culture and free time is about having a pint or two... and often many.

    Here, we meet up and have a coffee. As soon as I meet someone Irish, we're having pints and getting wasted.

    Good craic, though. :pac:


  • #57
    flookdgates
    Site Banned Posts: 67 ✭✭flookdgates


    cdeb wrote: »
    And I don't appreciate being patronised and told to grow up by someone who thinks clickbait articles on a book from years ago which may or mayn't even be true are somehow relevant to anything today.

    What's your point?

    Please be civil. No need for the aggressive tone.
    The thread is not solely about Paddy Losty. He is simply one example of a much larger group of middle aged and elderly Irish men who are long term unemployed and waste away their days in the pub to the detriment of their families. We are also discussing how wider society views these alcoholics as loveable characters as evidenced by the many posters cracking jokes about them. They don't know the hurt and damage they cause to their suffering wives and children.

    If this topic is too emotive for you please reconsider contributing.


  • #58
    Gazzmonkey
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    flookdgates wrote: »
    Amazing. I don't appreciate being told to **** off by a mod. In my experience the regular users of this site are decent people who are able to engage in civil conversation. The mods however don't seem to know how to socially interact with others. Is it a consequence of computer nerds sitting at their keyboards all day and never talking with real humans face to face?

    I'm not a mod and I'll gladly tell you to **** off :)

    Your posts in this thread are full of pretentious shLte


  • #59
    begbysback
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    flookdgates wrote: »
    Some of Dublin's great pintmen have been known to put away thirty pints or more a in day.
    Leaving aside the memes and jokes for a moment, can you imagine the kind of life this man led and the effect it had on those around him? He more than likely was unemployed if he sat in a pub from morning to night drinking, squandering away his dole money. His kids probably never knew their father. His wife may as well have been a widow and probably had to get a part-time job herself just to feed the children and keep the bills paid while daddy drank away the dole.

    30 pints a day on dole money ??

    Think you may have miscalculated there chief


  • #60
    ArchXStanton
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    Pintmen? Let's just call them as they are,alcoholics...I could go down the main Street were I live right about this time and I'm guaranteed to see a few of them pounding the pavement,up and down...just waiting for the side door of a pub to open so they can slip in..absolutely gumming for a drink.Thank god those days are behind me


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  • #61
    SEPT 23 1989
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    flookdgates wrote: »
    Some of Dublin's great pintmen have been known to put away thirty pints or more a in day.
    Leaving aside the memes and jokes for a moment, can you imagine the kind of life this man led and the effect it had on those around him? He more than likely was unemployed if he sat in a pub from morning to night drinking, squandering away his dole money. His kids probably never knew their father. His wife may as well have been a widow and probably had to get a part-time job herself just to feed the children and keep the bills paid while daddy drank away the dole. Yet wider Irish society would label Paddy a harmless character or even herald him as a legend.

    Time for the country to adjust their attitude to alcohol and grow up. It's only when you move abroad and look at the country from an outside perspective that you realise the Irish have a major problem with booze. A few years down the line you will look back on the Reddit memes and the light-hearted articles on the Journal about this alcoholic and cringe.

    Sorry if this post comes across as aggressive but it has touched a very personal nerve.

    no shame in being a lightweight OP


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