O'Connell Street Dublin. What the fook like

Outlaw Pete · 12-07-2018 03:52PM

Last week I seen tourists trying to take pictures of the GPO around 8pm but you could see the look of bewilderment on their face at the state of the place which was doubling as a kitchen for zombies with half eaten sandwiches and bowls of God kows what strewn about the place. Go and use the outside of Brown Thomas as such and see how long it's allowed.

Same goes for us allowing begging on the Ha'penny Bridge. Tourists come from all over the world to take photos on that bridge and when they get here they have to do their best to take pics which don't include the professional homeless junkies hanging around at their feet. Wouldn't be tolerated in any other country, sitting at a tourist attraction for hours on end.

Chinasea · 12-07-2018 05:00PM

tom1ie wrote: »

That’s the spirit let’s sack all the dubs and hire foreign nationals, pay them min wage and no job security. Another one who just wants a race to the bottom regarding wages and terms and conditions.
When we get rid of the dubs, where do you think they’ll end up? Claiming the dole perhaps? Who pays for that?
Think before you post please.

You are missing the point. Unless we address the elephant in the room, nothing will change.

IMO, the cleansing department in Dublin city is NOT working.

Why?

How come the majority of private cleaning is carried out by foreign nationals. I am not saying that is right or wrong.

What I am saying is that the majority of Dublins Co.Co cleansing department workers are Dubs, often having family members/relations working in the same teams. I don't see any diversity whatsoever. The Co.Co is strangled with industrial relations issues and mismanagement. Like I said I have written politely several times and NEVER had an answer.

My observations are that our city stinks. The current system is failing.

begbysback · 12-07-2018 05:02PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Last week I seen tourists trying to take pictures of the GPO around 8pm but you could see the look of bewilderment on their face at the state of the place which was doubling as a kitchen for zombies with half eaten sandwiches and bowls of God kows what strewn about the place. Go and use the outside of Brown Thomas as such and see how long it's allowed.

Same goes for us allowing begging on the Ha'penny Bridge. Tourists come from all over the world to take photos on that bridge and when they get here they have to do their best to take pics which don't include the professional homeless junkies hanging around at their feet. Wouldn't be tolerated in any other country, sitting at a tourist attraction for hours on end.

So you are saying we should stop feeding the homeless because tourists cannot get a good souvenir, and that we should prioritise bridges over people?

topper75 · 12-07-2018 05:04PM

Should pass a bye-law prohibiting loitering or impeding passage in a narrow thoroughfare. That would fix the Ha'penny Bridge.
Guards could clear it every 15-20 mins until they eventually get the message.

Outlaw Pete · 12-07-2018 05:05PM

begbysback wrote: »

So you are saying we should stop feeding the homeless because tourists cannot get a good souvenir, and that we should prioritise bridges over people?

topper75 · 12-07-2018 05:05PM

begbysback wrote: »

So you are saying we should stop feeding the homeless because tourists cannot get a good souvenir, and that we should prioritise bridges over people?

Why are they feeding the homeless at all? It's hardly like their dole went towards high rent? I mean they are homeless so they would have plenty dosh for food at least. Unless something else is going on?

Taytoland · 12-07-2018 05:08PM

It's a big dump but then so is Dublin, so it's to be expected.

12-07-2018 05:16PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh its strange I must say the Oconnell Street is as bad as it is, and just a stones throw away all the grafton street area is really nice

Yeah, I was reading recently that most of O'Connell Street was also pulverised in Easter 1916 not from the boat the Helga as most Irish people might think but from the, em, "Grafton Street area".

12-07-2018 05:18PM

Taytoland wrote: »

It's a big dump but then so is Dublin, so it's to be expected.

And is it Ballymena, Ballymoney, Larne, Portadown or Carrickfergus that you're writing from, Tayto?

Muahahaha · 12-07-2018 05:18PM

OP is right, the footpaths of OConnell St at the moment are manky, Ive never seen them as bad. There is so much gunk on them that your runners get stuck walking along. And theyve been like this for around 5 or 6 weeks now since we last had a good drop of rain. DCC should be ashamed with how bad they have let it get and right now their only strategy seems to be hoping for rain to wash the crap away.

Taytoland · 12-07-2018 05:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

It's a big dump but then so is Dublin, so it's to be expected.

And is it Ballymena, Ballymoney, Larne, Portadown or Carrickfergus that you're writing from, Tayto?

Gods country!

GarIT · 12-07-2018 05:34PM

Ikea Could be coming to O'Connell Street. Hopefully that will help towards cleaning it up a bit.

There are so many run down buildings along O'Connell street. I think the it's a circular problem, nobody wants to rent there because its ****, and nobody wants to do it up because nobody wants to rent there.

12-07-2018 05:37PM

Lived all my life in Dublin. Can't recall the last time I was on O Connells Street. It was before the Spire went up cos I've never seen it up close

Grayson · 12-07-2018 05:38PM

I think we can all agree that it's better than that boardwalk

AllForIt · 12-07-2018 05:39PM

Maybe street cleaning is currently being curtailed because of the water shortage?

Edit: I'm not sure if water is used to clean the streets in Dublin but I've certainly seen it in other cities.

Edit 2: The problem with O'Connell street is the number of lower working classes living right beside it...which in my opinion is just crazy for a capital city. No one in long-term unemployment should have the luxury to live and have their rent paid in what should be a highly sought after location. It's not like they need to live there.

We do in this country seem to have an OTT attitude to those who are 'disadvantaged'. Oh don't even think about taking away the right of ppl who don't have an income to live in a prime location, where workers who have to travel into the city for work can't afford to live within walking distance and have to travel on a shoddy bus service to get there. And what do get for this attitude? A dirty rotten city center street which in fact has so much potential to be a wonderful area.

What Dublin needs is a no tolerance approach to scuzz but I don't think any politician or councillor has the balls to do it, lest they be accused of attacking the 'most vulnerable' in society.

12-07-2018 05:44PM

That dark paving doesn't help either. Renders the street lighting useless at night. Just has the air of a menacing unwelcoming place as a result.

Chinasea · 12-07-2018 05:47PM

There is no Street cleaning ever. Power hosing should be part of the cleaning programme, but it isn't. The streets are power hosed regularly in Spain where they would have a lot less water. Does not have to be pristine drinking water.

No outside the box thinking nor implementation.

wakka12 · 12-07-2018 05:55PM

begbysback wrote: »

So you are saying we should stop feeding the homeless because tourists cannot get a good souvenir, and that we should prioritise bridges over people?

As you already know, no thats not what he's saying

Teyla Emmagan · 12-07-2018 05:59PM

All of town is stinking. The paths are just disgusting. We need about 48 hours of rain.

wakka12 · 12-07-2018 05:59PM

GarIT wrote: »

Ikea Could be coming to O'Connell Street. Hopefully that will help towards cleaning it up a bit.

There are so many run down buildings along O'Connell street. I think the it's a circular problem, nobody wants to rent there because its ****, and nobody wants to do it up because nobody wants to rent there.

There are plans for a new shopping centre on oconnell street. It will link moore street and Oconnell Street, should definitely help the area. It'll be at the site of where the old dublin central park in the sky thing fell through, it'll be a less retail heavy scheme and the architect wants to create a little warren of streets and alleys that respect dublins history

It could be really good for the area

Chaos Tourist · 12-07-2018 06:03PM

wakka12 wrote: »

There are plans for a new shopping centre on oconnell street. It will link moore street and Oconnell Street, should definitely help the area. It'll be at the site of where the old dublin central park in the sky thing fell through, it'll be a less retail heavy scheme and the architect wants to create a little warren of streets and alleys that respect dublins history

It could be really good for the area

Could be ideal for mugging ambushes?

cocaliquid · 12-07-2018 06:06PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Maybe street cleaning is currently being curtailed because of the water shortage?

Edit: I'm not sure if water is used to clean the streets in Dublin but I've certainly seen it in other cities.

Edit 2: The problem with O'Connell street is the number of lower working classes living right beside it...which in my opinion is just crazy for a capital city. No one in long-term unemployment should have the luxury to live and have their rent paid in what should be a highly sought after location. It's not like they need to live there.

We do in this country seem to have an OTT attitude to those who are 'disadvantaged'. Oh don't even think about taking away the right of ppl who don't have an income to live in a prime location, where workers who have to travel into the city for work can't afford to live within walking distance and have to travel on a shoddy bus service to get there. And what do get for this attitude? A dirty rotten city center street which in fact has so much potential to be a wonderful area.

What Dublin needs is a no tolerance approach to scuzz but I don't think any politician or councillor has the balls to do it, lest they be accused of attacking the 'most vulnerable' in society.

Your some Tulip :rolleyes:

GarIT · 12-07-2018 06:09PM

Chinasea wrote: »

There is no Street cleaning ever. Power hosing should be part of the cleaning programme, but it isn't. The streets are power hosed regularly in Spain where they would have a lot less water. Does not have to be pristine drinking water.

No outside the box thinking nor implementation.

I've been around Dublin 1 and 2 frequently over the last few years and the streets are cleaned almost every night I've been out between 2 and 5.
I haven't been on O'Connell street as much but Jervis Street and Grafton Street are always wet on weekend nights even when it hasn't rained.

Galadriel · 12-07-2018 06:10PM

Northern Monkey wrote: »

Is it tree sap?

I think everyone has missed this, it is tree sap OP that's why Henry Street is fine as there are no trees.

Sure look at the state of some cars parked under trees, the stuff is awful to get off.

harr · 12-07-2018 06:13PM

O Connell Street is so bad even Ann summers moved out ...so must be bad if the sex shops don’t want to trade on it

Muahahaha · 12-07-2018 06:13PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Maybe street cleaning is currently being curtailed because of the water shortage?

No doubt that is what DCC would claim now but the hosepipe ban wasnt in force for all of June yet they let the streets get filthy. Plus the ban only applies to households.

Chinasea wrote: »

There is no Street cleaning ever. Power hosing should be part of the cleaning programme, but it isn't. The streets are power hosed regularly in Spain where they would have a lot less water. Does not have to be pristine drinking water.

No outside the box thinking nor implementation.

This 100 times. Anytime Im in other European countries you see crews of council workers out late at night washing the streets. It never seems to happen here in any meaningful sense of lets keep the place looking well.

Businesses also have a lot to answer for, if you walk around the city center just look upwards and youll see dirty filth over most of the buildings which never seem to get a powerwash down. Theres buildings all along Dame Street whose windows dont look like they have ever been properly washed.

fritzelly · 12-07-2018 06:30PM

Should fire the idiot who decided those trees would be good on O'Connell St. One day I'm gonna be walking there and not be able to move
And it's nothing to do with the drought and no water, that side of the street is like it all the time.

Galadriel · 12-07-2018 06:46PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Should fire the idiot who decided those trees would be good on O'Connell St. One day I'm gonna be walking there and not be able to move
And it's nothing to do with the drought and no water, that side of the street is like it all the time.

Maybe it is but the heat and the sap from the trees isn't helping, I walk up Parnell street daily and couldn't figure out why I was sticking to the footpath more than normal :pac:

fritzelly · 12-07-2018 07:16PM

Galadriel wrote: »

Maybe it is but the heat and the sap from the trees isn't helping, I walk up Parnell street daily and couldn't figure out why I was sticking to the footpath more than normal :pac:

Like that all the time (minus the heat), what must tourists think

Is it really just bug poo tho :rolleyes:

12-07-2018 10:19PM

Not to give any of you ideas but back in the latter half of the 19th century Napoleon III (nephew of Napoleon Bonaparte) hired a guy named Georges-Eugene Haussmann to essentially demolish Paris city and start from scratch, building wide avenues and modern water and sanitary conditions across the whole city. Yes, you read it correctly. An absolutely fascinating history of the rebuilding of Paris here:

Haussman's Renovation of Paris

And, just in case you think we couldn't do that because of our population:

The population of Paris was recorded as 949,000 in 1851. It grew to 1,130,500 in 1856 and was just short of two million by the end of Second Empire, including the 400,000 residents of the suburbs annexed to Paris in 1860.

It's a topic for a thread of its own. We could design the city to be pedestrian, cyclist and public transport friendly and so much else. All we need is imagination, pride and money.

O'Connell Street Dublin. What the fook like

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