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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Why is this ALLOWED to happen, just patrol the area more regularly or ...., even just flood those areas with Gardaí!?
    But it has to be stopped.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/canal-crime-courts-4122979-Jul2018/




    Where's batman when you need him




    Or the Irish equivalent of batman - the 'ra


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    utter scum ...

    "The teen, who has not been in school since third class in primary school, lacked parental supervision, was abusing drugs and has acted like his “own boss since the age of 10 or 11”, said Judge John O’Connor."

    This is what happens when scum have kids to get welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Why is this ALLOWED to happen, just patrol the area more regularly or ...., even just flood those areas with Gardaí!?
    But it has to be stopped.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/canal-crime-courts-4122979-Jul2018/

    Now now, if the Gardaí had to patrol areas like that they would have to report the crimes and then the government wouldn't be able to claim that their policing strategies are working and crime is going down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Limerick91


    And in 4 or 5 years this scumbag will be breeding more scumbags and the cycle continues

    Forced sterilization I say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Why are we putting up with this ****é


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Why are we putting up with this ****é

    What should we do ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Bring back vigilantes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    What should we do ?

    Steel-cored baton to the back of the thigh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Are there no consequences at all for the parents for letting their feral kids run amok?

    I was going to say perhaps we need to bring back conscription or something but I doubt the army would have much of a use for scum like that.

    Maybe a nice offshore prison colony or something


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,322 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    My grandfather used to drown the pups he didn't want in a bucket of water. Will I tell him to get a bigger bucket?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    What should we do ?


    I'll tell you where to start. Let first build a super prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    As much as I abhor these scumbags, what's the solution? Seriously, ask yourself what is the solution? Throw them in jail? Rehabilitate them? Sterilize them? Lock them all up in a giant walled scumbag enclosure?

    None of the above - society will always have this kind of bjollox going on. Its never going to change. Even if the cops went down and beat the living sh1te out of them on a daily basis, they'd still do it.

    Sorry to sound deafist but this kind of crap goes on in every country on the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    There's no deterrent to repeat offences in this country. Do a crime, slap on the wrist. Its a constant cycle and its the regular person who wants to get on with their life that suffers. Judges either don't care or don't know what's the best course of action and throw these scum back on the streets in hope that they'll learn their lesson.

    I think at this stage we need to stand up for ourselves, cos society isn't going to change anytime soon. A good hiding is what these scum deserve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Keyzer wrote: »
    As much as I abhor these scumbags, what's the solution? Seriously, ask yourself what is the solution? Throw them in jail? Rehabilitate them? Sterilize them? Lock them all up in a giant walled scumbag enclosure?

    None of the above - society will always have this kind of bjollox going on. Its never going to change. Even if the cops went down and beat the living sh1te out of them on a daily basis, they'd still do it.

    Sorry to sound deafist but this kind of crap goes on in every country on the planet.

    I don't know and maybe you're right. But as it stands it seems there's absolutely nothing being done to try and change this carry on.

    Locking them up in a giant walled scumbag enclosure is unlikely to happen I guess in these days of hooman rights etc. etc. but it'd sure have my vote.

    If I had to guess I'd say we're not far of from having gated communities like they have in the US. I think it's ridiculous people have to go through such lengths to protect themselves.

    Having said that....I don't know what an actual solution would be either. Locking them up wouldn't be a solution as much as a workaround.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭brevity


    It's despicable that this stuff goes on and if someone used self defense they would end up in more trouble than the scumbag.

    Curfew and or mandatory service. If the parents can't control them or don't care that they are committing crimes then off to boot camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    It doesn't help either that dodgy parties like Sinn Feinn will do everything to protect "Der Hooman rights" ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    brevity wrote: »
    It's despicable that this stuff goes on and if someone used self defense they would end up in more trouble than the scumbag.

    Curfew and or mandatory service. If the parents can't control them or don't care that they are committing crimes then off to boot camp.

    Think thats a really good idea, army camps can really give motivation and respect to a kid...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    It doesn't help either that dodgy parties like Sinn Feinn will do everything to protect "Der Hooman rights" ...

    I'm really curious to see how bad things need to get before societies decide that if people don't behave like a human perhaps we don't need to give them full human rights.

    Probably a lot worse still :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Most telling of all is the mother storming out of court as she couldn't watch her son getting sentenced.

    Drama and kicking up a massive fuss will make things better. I mean she couldn't be arsed parenting her Johnny but the gubberment shouldn't be putting him in jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭aziz


    wexie wrote: »
    Are there no consequences at all for the parents for letting their feral kids run amok?

    I was going to say perhaps we need to bring back conscription or something but I doubt the army would have much of a use for scum like that.

    I can think of one thing,
    Target practice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Mailcoachinn


    aziz wrote: »
    Target practice.

    *licks lips...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Find the good for nothing articles that are his so called parents and hold them responsible for his feral behavior.stop their welfare if he reoffends and let them dish out a severe beating to him.that might put a halt to his gallop.
    Nothing will be done though.hel serve 5 months in the big house where he will act the hard man and progress up the scum bag ladder and won’t be a week out when he acts the boll1x again.rinse and repeat then until he commits a crime serious enough for a long sentence.
    And throughout his good for nothing life he will never do any good just harm to other innocents along the way and will cost the taxpayers money all the way through.even in death these scum cost the taxpayers as instead of providing for themselves financially they beg and squander every penny they can get their nasty hands on as their greedy entitled personality knows nothing else.they should be left to starve if not willing to work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Thepillowman


    Any teenager with more than 3 convictions into the army for 4yrs teach them a trade and a bit of respect. Because as far as I can see present policies aren't working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    The court had to be stopped until the mother calmed down. That has to be a joke. Why wasn't she put in jail herself if her son hasn't been in school since third class? Why wasn't her son taken into care when he was taking cocaine at 12 years old? And of course the old reliable diagnosis of ADD. Can you imagine the rap sheet he will have by the time he's 25.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭decky1


    it's been said here a thousand times there is only Justice for the offender none for the victim, bring back the Birch lets see how they deal with that? oooh no sorry that may hurt him too much he has rights.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    wexie wrote: »
    Are there no consequences at all for the parents for letting their feral kids run amok?

    I was going to say perhaps we need to bring back conscription or something but I doubt the army would have much of a use for scum like that.

    Maybe a nice offshore prison colony or something

    Consequences is a notion only important to decent people who have worked and provided their family with a decent lifestyle through years of hard work and sacrifice. Who have hopes that their children and grandchildren will at each generation go on to better themselves even further.

    If you on the other hand have made a lifestyle where your professional income is welfare, where education is frowned on and indeed scorned, where appearing in court and doing time on the inside is acceptable and inevitable. Where are the potential consequences??
    They fear nothing because they value nothing and have no attachment to friends or family. Second, third and fourth generation serially unemployed, unemployable individuals who have the backing of crack pot politicians making constant excuses that it’s somehow the fault of “society” and “big business” that these people are “trapped” in this lifestyle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭dexter_morgan


    Ease off. Let's give him a chance. He wants to turn his life around!

    "Alison Fynes, defending, said the boy was adamant about turning his life around and has been going to classes in custody"

    Sarc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    The court had to be stopped until the mother calmed down. That has to be a joke. Why wasn't she put in jail herself if her son hasn't been in school since third class? Why wasn't her son taken into care when he was taking cocaine at 12 years old? And of course the old reliable diagnosis of ADD. Can you imagine the rap sheet he will have by the time he's 25.


    Fukn jokeshop of a country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    National service. Mandatory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    What should we do ?

    Mandatory minimum sentences, the judiciary have already proved they are incapable or unwilling to keep society safe from prolific and dangerous criminals.

    A bar on concurrent sentences; no more do one get 10 added on for free nonsense.

    A sliding scale for repeat offences; probation or suspended is reasonable for some 1st offences. A second chance should be just that, a SECOND chance, fail to take it and you go to prison.

    1 year for 2nd offence, 2 for 3rd, 4 for 4th, 8 for 5th and so on. Nobody should be able to rack up 100s of convictions and still be allowed to roam the streets victimising more people.

    All criminal procedures should have a victim compensation element attached, every conviction should also include an award to the victim payable by the criminal. If they can't pay then a proportion of their wages or benefits gets diverted to the victim until the debt is cleared, if they are a child then the parents are liable.


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