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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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  • #4022
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Rumours of Higuain to Chelsea, that would cover a good chunk of Ronaldo fee.

    He wants 30m nett a year. So in Italy they have high tax so would be nearly 60m gross a year.. they would need to offload a few players to be able to justify thst


  • #4023
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Last striker Chelsea got with previous Juve links hasn't exactly been great thus far....


  • #4024
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    My gripe with it was that it was used in relation to a deal that doesn't look anywhere close to being done.

    Also (and to a different post) Fred looked a done deal a few weeks ago because it was. Contract signed, fee agreed, medical done, pictures done etc - just waiting for the work permit - no issue with that being called a done deal.

    With Sandro we have:

    Signed contract: No.
    Medical done: No.
    Fee agreed: No.
    Media pictures done: No.
    Interviews done: No.
    Work Permit applied for: No.

    In what world does that look like a done deal?

    Very same as mahrez to city.

    None of them done, still close to a done deal


  • #4025
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    astradave wrote: »
    He wants 30m nett a year. So in Italy they have high tax so would be nearly 60m gross a year.. they would need to offload a few players to be able to justify thst

    Sandro to utd being one :)


  • #4026
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    astradave wrote: »
    He wants 30m nett a year. So in Italy they have high tax so would be nearly 60m gross a year.. they would need to offload a few players to be able to justify thst

    I only mentioned the fee;)

    Agreed it's Higuain,Sandro and probably a few lesser names that will fund it.

    Probably get 60m each for those 2,that will Cover Ronnies wage for 2 seasons :eek:


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  • #4027
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    astradave wrote: »
    He wants 30m nett a year. So in Italy they have high tax so would be nearly 60m gross a year.. they would need to offload a few players to be able to justify thst

    He won't get close to that at Juve. My guess is they are letting him control the majority of his image rights or something.

    I also don't think Juve will gut the team to accommodate Ronaldo. Likewise I don't think Ronaldo will join a non-competitive stripped down team. He'll still want to challenge for the CL, and I think that is a big part of why Juve are after him.


  • #4028
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    yabadabado wrote: »
    I only mentioned the fee;)

    Agreed it's Higuain,Sandro and probably a few lesser names that will fund it.

    Probably get 60m each for those 2,that will Cover Ronnies wage for 2 seasons :eek:

    I’d say Dybala will move on as Allegri is staying too, they don’t get on pretty much


  • #4029
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Lukker- wrote: »
    He won't get close to that at Juve. My guess is they are letting him control the majority of his image rights or something.

    I also don't think Juve will gut the team to accommodate Ronaldo. Likewise I don't think Ronaldo will join a non-competitive stripped down team. He'll still want to challenge for the CL, and I think that is a big part of why Juve are after him.

    Dybala fell out with Allegri, Higuain will be moved on and Ronaldo in his place and Sandro has wanted to leave now for over a season so it’s not exactly gutting the place..

    Anyways the wage is what he is looking for that was put out there by Mendes supposedly, I also don’t think Juve could/would pay that tbh


  • #4030
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I'm actually massively surprised the press aren't even trying to link us into the story, just to generate clicks.

    Nor are Ronnie's team using us to drive up contract offers, sale price, etc.


  • #4031
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,307 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I'm actually massively surprised the press aren't even trying to link us into the story, just to generate clicks.

    Nor are Ronnie's team using us to drive up contract offers, sale price, etc.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/04/juventus-make-88m-bid-cristiano-ronaldo-now-pressure-manchester/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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  • #4032
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Cannot see Ronaldo playing under Jose at United.

    Juventus are also a massive club. Better going there than to the U.S at this stage in his career


  • #4033
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    bangkok wrote: »
    Cannot see Ronaldo playing under Jose at United.

    Juventus are also a massive club. Better going there than to the U.S at this stage in his career

    Why?


  • #4034
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    astradave wrote: »
    Why?

    They didnt end on the best terms and for the 3 years they worked together it was very tense.

    Ronaldo also didnt like jose's defensive approach


  • #4035
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    bangkok wrote: »
    They didnt end on the best terms and for the 3 years they worked together it was very tense.

    Ronaldo also didnt like jose's defensive approach

    Defensive approach my bollox... broke records for goals scored


  • #4036
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    astradave wrote: »
    Defensive approach my bollox... broke records for goals scored

    You asked for the reason and thats it.

    Jose on ronaldo

    "When I criticised him from a tactical point of view so he could improve, he did not accept what I had to say."

    Plenty more swipes taken in the press. Ronaldo hit back on more than one occassion as well


  • #4037
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    astradave wrote: »
    bangkok wrote: »
    They didnt end on the best terms and for the 3 years they worked together it was very tense.

    Ronaldo also didnt like jose's defensive approach

    Defensive approach my bollox... broke records for goals scored

    I did a quick google and there are plenty of articles that say Jose's "negativity" did frustrate Ronaldo, despite the success it achieved for all involved.


  • #4038
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I did a quick google and there are plenty of articles that say Jose's "negativity" did frustrate Ronaldo, despite the success it achieved for all involved.

    He also said cristiano was not the "real" ronaldo


  • #4039
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I did a quick google and there are plenty of articles that say Jose's "negativity" did frustrate Ronaldo, despite the success it achieved for all involved.

    Yeah but it’s wasnt to do with an actual defensive approach to games it was that Ronaldo was asked to work hard for the team, the same way Ozil alluded to in his autobiography. He didn’t build his team around Ronaldo but around devestatingly quick transitions.

    I dunno how you can call that football that was played in that record breaking year defensive.. it was brilliant to watch and sensational too


  • #4040
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    bangkok wrote: »
    He also said cristiano was not the "real" ronaldo

    He’s not :pac:


  • #4041
    Andrew Beef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Andrew Beef


    On a mildly amusing note, my young son is obsessed with Ronaldo. His Nan bought him a book last week about Ronaldo. Only it’s about the Brazilian Ronaldo; my son’s first question was “who’s this fake guy?”. I’ve persuaded him to read it anyway but I laughed.


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  • #4042
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Lets just move on here anyways.. and now our heads for Lord Tesco, as it’s being reported that there is a medical scheduled for Ronaldo in Turin :pac:


  • #4043
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    astradave wrote: »
    Lets just move on here anyways.. and now our heads for Lord Tesco, as it’s being reported that there is a medical scheduled for Ronaldo in Turin :pac:

    News now that Madrid have made an improvement in their contract offer to Ronaldo.


  • #4044
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Cantona's Collars wrote: »
    News now that Madrid have made an improvement in their contract offer to Ronaldo.

    :pac: at least it wasn’t us this time


    And that’s all I have to say on that matter


  • #4045
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    astradave wrote: »
    Yeah but it’s wasnt to do with an actual defensive approach to games it was that Ronaldo was asked to work hard for the team, the same way Ozil alluded to in his autobiography. He didn’t build his team around Ronaldo but around devestatingly quick transitions.

    I dunno how you can call that football that was played in that record breaking year defensive.. it was brilliant to watch and sensational too

    The greatest player of all time thought it was too defensive and the pair of them had a strained relationship, miles away from what ronaldo had with fergie or even zidane for that matter


  • #4046
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,409 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I have an awful memory these days, does anybody happen to know what particular team holds the record for the most ever league goals scored in a season in La Liga?


  • #4047
    Trigger
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I have an awful memory these days, does anybody happen to know what particular team holds the record for the most ever league goals scored in a season in La Liga?

    Negative nelly Jose”defensive” Mourinho’s Real Madrid IIRC


  • #4048
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I have an awful memory these days, does anybody happen to know what particular team holds the record for the most ever league goals scored in a season in La Liga?

    Do you remember why jose and ronaldo fell out??


  • #4049
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10921406/ronaldo-v-mourinho-a-decade-of-highs-and-lows-in-quotes

    This was last summer


  • #4050
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Some transfer gossip/bollix.

    United to move for Shaqiri for £12 million.

    Chelsea want Martial as part of a deal for Willian.

    And for giggles, Liverpool are to keep Karius as number one after being priced out of moves for Oblak and Allison.


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  • #4051
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Shaqiri's work ethic makes me think he wouldn't get near us tbh. I'd guess if there's any substance in the stories, it dervies from his agent using us to get a better deal from Pool.



    According to Reddit, this guy is Tier One for Ronaldo, and says that despite he meeting this evening, a Ronaldo is 99.9% likely to leave now.

    If you'd asked me to do a list of teams he'd go to, I never would have put Juvi there.


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