Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

bucketybuck · 30-06-2018 01:25PM

IncognitoMan wrote: »

McTominay may develop into a better player than he currently is so yes I want him to be ahead of fellaini. Both should be 5th and 6th choice midfielders though.

Neither are great but one is improving (hopefully) and one is 30 so hardly likely we'll see much improvement from him through game time as a midfielder.

Use fellaini as previously stated. He'll probably end up with more game time than McTominay if used as the target man option.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think Fellaini is better but for the role in the team as a defensive minded backup or tall target man id have been happy for fellaini to be let go and Mctominy given the chance this season to step into that role. If we don't feel mctominay has the potential to be that player at least then why would we be keeping him?

It all comes back to the same point though, this narrative that Felliani is just a target man or a clogger.

He's not, he is a perfectly good midfielder who can play well in a fluid midfield and who has shown it for club and country many times. A midfield three with Felliani on the left side worked well when we saw it happen, even if we saw it very rarely last season for various reasons.

And its not giving him more credit than he is due to point this out, its simply a realistic appraisal of his value. He is a very useful player who in this thread is repeatedly made out to be a one trick pony.

Mitch Connor · 30-06-2018 01:34PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

It all comes back to the same point though, this narrative that Felliani is just a target man or a clogger.

He's not, he is a perfectly good midfielder who can play well in a fluid midfield and who has shown it for club and country many times. A midfield three with Felliani on the left side worked well when we saw it happen, even if we saw it very rarely last season for various reasons.

And its not giving him more credit than he is due to point this out, its simply a realistic appraisal of his value. He is a very useful player who in this thread is repeatedly made out to be a one trick pony.

I disagree.
His passing is Conservative and safe 99% of the time. He slows down and stifles our offensive passing. Fluidity in midfield does not come with him involved in the passing movement.

His passing isn't incisive or quick enough to appraise him as being good enough for a fluid midfield.

His primary uses when he plays are defensive and acting as a target man for direct balls from defence or into the box.

Edit: maybe his use of the ball is purely down to tactical instruction and he'd show more if freed up, but i can't comment on that cause I dint know. I can only comment on what I see from him when he plays for us.

bangkok · 30-06-2018 02:08PM

Pogba matuidi and kante start in midfield, for france, again.

pjohnson · 30-06-2018 02:21PM

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba matuidi and kante start in midfield, for france, again.

I assume that means its actually a 4-2-3-1 again?

Trigger · 30-06-2018 02:21PM

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba matuidi and kante start in midfield, for france, again.

Well playing 4231, Pogba and Kante deeper matuidi LAM Mbappe RAM and Greizmann SS

Pogba will be tasked at playing the ball from deep to behind the fullbacks I’d say, Argentina are very poor out there

bangkok · 30-06-2018 02:23PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I assume that means its actually a 4-2-3-1 again?

You are using a freeze frame to prove a formation. Laughable.

I said ages ago them 3 would start for france. I was correct

pjohnson · 30-06-2018 02:28PM

astradave wrote: »

Well playing 4231, Pogba and Kante deeper matuidi LAM Mbappe RAM and Greizmann SS

Pogba will be tasked at playing the ball from deep to behind the fullbacks I’d say, Argentina are very poor out there

Are you sure. I hear some say Greizmann is a brilliant central midfielder

bangkok · 30-06-2018 02:53PM

Should do a swap deal with martial plus money for mbappe. Would sort out our attack down the right

bangkok · 30-06-2018 03:11PM

Speed of mbappe. Crazy.

Cantona's Collars · 30-06-2018 03:11PM

bangkok wrote: »

Should do a swap deal with martial plus money for mbappe. Would sort out our attack down the right

Just watching him charge 70 yards with the ball and win a penalty it isn't the worst of ideas and he went to the right instead of left.

Mitch Connor · 30-06-2018 03:11PM

What on earth was Rojo at? Terrible defending. Brainless.

pjohnson · 30-06-2018 03:13PM

Poor Rojo have night terrors if he had to face Mbappe in training.

Cantona's Collars · 30-06-2018 03:14PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

What on earth was Rojo at? Terrible defending. Brainless.

Couldn't keep with Mbappe. Mascherano got brushed aside too. The kid is a tank that moves like a rocket.

S.M.B. · 30-06-2018 03:14PM

That's embarrassing for Rojo.

bangkok · 30-06-2018 03:15PM

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Just watching him charge 70 yards with the ball and win a penalty it isn't the worst of ideas and he went to the right instead of left.

He plays mostly from the right of attack. Best young player in the world right now.

bangkok · 30-06-2018 03:19PM

Brilliant skill and what a pass from pogba

RobertKK · 30-06-2018 03:21PM

Pogba and Mbappe in this game...so good. Mbappe in time is a Ballon D'or winner as he should only improve.

jayo26 · 30-06-2018 03:21PM

Am I the only one that thinks rojo was hard done by. Mbappe just ran past him and pretty much held rojo as much as rojo held him.

RobertKK · 30-06-2018 03:22PM

S.M.B. wrote: »

That's embarrassing for Rojo.

I think credit has to be given to Mbappe as he showed great speed and strength. No one from Argentina was coping with that run.

bangkok · 30-06-2018 03:23PM

jayo26 wrote: »

Am I the only one that thinks rojo was hard done by. Mbappe just ran past him and pretty much held rojo as much as rojo held him.

100% peno. Rojo never played the ball

Mitch Connor · 30-06-2018 03:25PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I think credit has to be given to Mbappe as he showed great speed and strength. No one from Argentina was coping with that run.

His run past Rojo had put him wide into a low percentages position. He'd have been taking a shot the keeper should deal with or checking back giving Rojo a chance to reposition to defend against him - grabbing at him was a brainless move.

S.M.B. · 30-06-2018 03:39PM

^ this

Being beaten for pace in that position does not mean he should run across his path and drag him down.

jayo26 · 30-06-2018 03:41PM

Sign him up

Mitch Connor · 30-06-2018 03:42PM

I will always be sad di Maria didn't work out at United.

Stunning strike.

wanderer100 · 30-06-2018 03:43PM

Should have never sold him

bangkok · 30-06-2018 03:48PM

Pogba dominating in midfield. Excellent half

Alf Veedersane · 30-06-2018 03:50PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I will always be sad di Maria didn't work out at United.

Stunning strike.

The 300 or so minutes of being hugely ineffective before that goal remind me why he didn't work out at United.

Which is a shame for a player with that ability.

Drumpot · 30-06-2018 03:54PM

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba dominating in midfield. Excellent half

In a role some felt explained average or poor performances for united

bangkok · 30-06-2018 04:15PM

Goal of the tournament right there

Headshot · 30-06-2018 04:15PM

what a ****ing world cup

what a match

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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