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Werewolf XXVIII - Eastenders

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  • #1982
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    Which group do you think?

    Ah I’m biased, I’m not a fan of Clodagh. I’m trying to put that to one side though and weigh things up fairly. There are strange aspects to either sides strategy


  • #1983
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Ok explain to me again how you're getting the Clodagh as a wolf thing? Just because she named the character wrong? You've both got Des down as apprentice seer. If this was a wolf play, and the wolves do indeed have a wolf seer/wolf priest, why would they get the name wrong of the character? They would know that you, the real priest, weren't dead and could come out and counter Clodagh's claim. Why would they make such a mistake?

    Clodagh said that Desmond was Zoe Slater, Apprentice Seer.

    I knew she was lying as I'd been told that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer.

    Why would she not just say that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer? Because Eva had already used the Pat Butcher role to claim Apprentice Priest.

    They took Desmond's role and split it between them knowing that he was dead and nobody else could claim to be Pat Butcher or Apprentice Seer.

    Note that Clodagh hasn't mentioned her character name yet.

    I'd assume they don't have a full Priest, but get the character names and roles of those they kill, so Katie, Desmond and Gabriel. Desmond was most handy, as they could then use Katie's seer fake claim later (they did).

    For all they knew the Priest was already dead by Lynch or SK - they wouldn't have been told those characters and roles. It was a calculated risk, I guess. Also a risk that the Zoe Slater character wasn't being used by another player either.


  • #1984
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    Clodagh said that Desmond was Zoe Slater, Apprentice Seer.

    I knew she was lying as I'd been told that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer.

    Why would she not just say that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer? Because Eva had already used the Pat Butcher role to claim Apprentice Priest.

    They took Desmond's role and split it between them knowing that he was dead and nobody else could claim to be Pat Butcher or Apprentice Seer.

    Note that Clodagh hasn't mentioned her character name yet.

    I'd assume they don't have a full Priest, but get the character names and roles of those they kill, so Katie, Desmond and Gabriel. Desmond was most handy, as they could then use Katie's seer fake claim later (they did).

    For all they knew the Priest was already dead by Lynch or SK - they wouldn't have been told those characters and roles. It was a calculated risk, I guess. Also a risk that the Zoe Slater character wasn't being used by another player either.

    Interesting use of Zoe slater though, relatively obscure in the scheme of things and not a name id associate as a power player on the square


  • #1985
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Doris WW wrote: »
    Actually, I know its been talked about, but if there are faulty guns in play (jake) there is a good chance there are fool seer/priest in play. What if both groups are telling the truth and both think they are seer/priest. The wolves could be sitting back laughing at us tearing each other apart.

    This info from Derrys power could be crucial.

    I've actually considered that. I had huge doubts about whether I was getting the right information myself, even before I learned the Barry Evan's Loser Seer role. But I think I'm legit. The role reveals don't contradict information garnered on thread, and the Dot Cotton name ties in well with the role in the same way that Barry's ties in with being a loser. It's why I asked Eva and Clodagh who their characters were. Which … note, Clodagh never answered.


  • #1986
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Right so its Angus & Riona then. Someone else said it; its entirely possible the wolves have a seer and a priest. So this really is a simple choice between two opposing stories.

    Angus argument about Pat Butcher vs Zoe Slater is ridiculous. If i was a wolf and knew Dessie was Pat, i wouldn't say Zoe, knowing there is a priest being out there to call me on it. I said Zoe because that is what the mods told me when i peeked Dessie.

    My information is correct and i am the village seer. I assume Riona is wolf seer and Angus is wolf priest. Derry is the only arbiter. Hopefully he used the reveal on me or Riona or Angus and we can get this cleared up and lynch these 2 wolves.

    Oh and my character name is Denis Rickman, Angus.


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  • #1987
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    I've actually considered that. I had huge doubts about whether I was getting the right information myself, even before I learned the Barry Evan's Loser Seer role. But I think I'm legit. The role reveals don't contradict information garnered on thread, and the Dot Cotton name ties in well with the role in the same way that Barry's ties in with being a loser. It's why I asked Eva and Clodagh who their characters were. Which … note, Clodagh never answered.

    Then Lynch must be Eva or Clodagh


  • #1988
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    I've actually considered that. I had huge doubts about whether I was getting the right information myself, even before I learned the Barry Evan's Loser Seer role. But I think I'm legit. The role reveals don't contradict information garnered on thread, and the Dot Cotton name ties in well with the role in the same way that Barry's ties in with being a loser. It's why I asked Eva and Clodagh who their characters were. Which … note, Clodagh never answered.

    You are big to point this out, but i did say on thread i wouldnt be back until 1.....and then you asked your question.

    You have been constructing your story and reinforcing it knowing i wasnt around.


  • #1989
    Doris WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭Doris WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    Then Lynch must be Eva or Clodagh

    Can't be certain until the force reveal, and hope its not a fake one at that.


  • #1990
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    Clodagh said that Desmond was Zoe Slater, Apprentice Seer.

    I knew she was lying as I'd been told that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer.

    Why would she not just say that Desmond was Pat Butcher, Apprentice Seer? Because Eva had already used the Pat Butcher role to claim Apprentice Priest.

    They took Desmond's role and split it between them knowing that he was dead and nobody else could claim to be Pat Butcher or Apprentice Seer.

    Note that Clodagh hasn't mentioned her character name yet.

    I'd assume they don't have a full Priest, but get the character names and roles of those they kill, so Katie, Desmond and Gabriel. Desmond was most handy, as they could then use Katie's seer fake claim later (they did).

    For all they knew the Priest was already dead by Lynch or SK - they wouldn't have been told those characters and roles. It was a calculated risk, I guess. Also a risk that the Zoe Slater character wasn't being used by another player either.

    Ok I see your reasoning here. So you think that the wolf priest only gets the roles of the ones they killed. Thanks for the response.

    The problem is I'm inclined to believe Clodagh over Riona. The Eva thing I considered seperate to Clodagh seeing as how she hadn't peeked her and therefore couldn't confirm if she was lying or not. If they are on the same team why wouldn't she just have said I peeked her and she is the app priest?

    I'm gonna wait to hear from Clodagh before I make a decision here. Derry's reveal is vital too. Not sure what the delay in action is?


  • #1991
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Doris WW wrote: »
    Can't be certain until the force reveal, and hope its not a fake one at that.

    Can't keep double thinking every decision


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  • #1992
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Clodagh who is on your trust pile beside Eva and orla??

    Same question to orla and eva


  • #1993
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Unless that's what the wolves want us to think!


  • #1994
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Right so its Angus & Riona then. Someone else said it; its entirely possible the wolves have a seer and a priest. So this really is a simple choice between two opposing stories.

    Angus argument about Pat Butcher vs Zoe Slater is ridiculous. If i was a wolf and knew Dessie was Pat, i wouldn't say Zoe, knowing there is a priest being out there to call me on it. I said Zoe because that is what the mods told me when i peeked Dessie.

    My information is correct and i am the village seer. I assume Riona is wolf seer and Angus is wolf priest. Derry is the only arbiter. Hopefully he used the reveal on me or Riona or Angus and we can get this cleared up and lynch these 2 wolves.

    Oh and my character name is Denis Rickman, Angus.

    Ok ok the question is the same to you then Clodagh. If Angus/Riona are the wolves, why would they say that Des was Pat Butcher if they'd been told he was Zoe Slater?


  • #1995
    Doris WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭Doris WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    Can't keep double thinking every decision

    It's a common power though, that the alpha wolf peaks as good. This is a force reveal though so we should be good.


  • #1996
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Can the mods open the lynch form please?


  • #1997
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,036 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Lynch form will be open shortly


  • #1998
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Jaysus this is a head-f**k, I've no reason to doubt Angus or Clodagh except for things that sprung up on Day 0, i.e. potential fluff.

    Clodagh posted an ITV Chart Show of music videos as her first post. Could have been tasky.

    Angus posted "Hoo's it gaun lads and lassies? Room for a wee Scottish lad in your fair London town??" as his first post. It made me think of the Scottish Trevor Morgan at the time, but it also just could have been related to the Scottishness of the name Angus.

    Why would Angus signify he was a wolf in his first post if he was actually Trevor? It could have been a task along the lines of 'Eastenders is full of dodgy accents, make a post in your character's accent'.

    Yeah, my head is melted here.


  • #1999
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Clodagh who is on your trust pile beside Eva and orla??

    Same question to orla and eva

    This is misdirection. Orla wasnt on my trust pile. I was never sure about Orla. In fact, i remember having her on my FFAs. Or have you not bothered to go back and research your 'peeks'.

    I trust Holly and Babs and Tegan right now. Abi gets points too for willing to put aside initial reads and look at my side of the story.
    Holly WW wrote: »
    Ok ok the question is the same to you then Clodagh. If Angus/Riona are the wolves, why would they say that Des was Pat Butcher if they'd been told he was Zoe Slater?

    I have no idea to be honest. Maybe Angus is a faulty priest. Maybe im a faulty seer. I have no idea. There could be wolf tasks and powers f*cking reads up all over the place. All i know is the peek results that i was given dont align with what Angus has said.

    As i have said, Derry is the only arbiter that counts. We cant trust Angus at the moment. Essentially everything he has said cannot be verified by anyone, and could be made up since he was the last one to reveal, and had the benefit of everyone elses reveal.


  • #2000
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Riona WW wrote: »
    Clodagh who is on your trust pile beside Eva and orla??

    Same question to orla and eva

    Completely loaded question which you genuinely have no interest in the answer to. Good to see you moved beyond 'LOL' though.


  • #2001
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Jaysus this is a head-f**k, I've no reason to doubt Angus or Clodagh except for things that sprung up on Day 0, i.e. potential fluff.

    Clodagh posted an ITV Chart Show of music videos as her first post. Could have been tasky.

    Angus posted "Hoo's it gaun lads and lassies? Room for a wee Scottish lad in your fair London town??" as his first post. It made me think of the Scottish Trevor Morgan at the time, but it also just could have been related to the Scottishness of the name Angus.

    Why would Angus signify he was a wolf in his first post if he was actually Trevor? It could have been a task along the lines of 'Eastenders is full of dodgy accents, make a post in your character's accent'.

    Yeah, my head is melted here.

    It was. Whoever has had this account has often referred to it. Just like Derry references the city up North. Never even thought of Trevor Morgan when posting it.


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  • #2002
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    This is misdirection. Orla wasnt on my trust pile. I was never sure about Orla. In fact, i remember having her on my FFAs. Or have you not bothered to go back and research your 'peeks'.


    More lies.

    Clodagh's #FFA1:
    Mary
    Angus
    Riona

    And #FFA2:
    Conor
    Nigel
    Gabriel


  • #2003
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    2000 posts. I imagine about 500 of them were in the last 14 hours :D


  • #2004
    Holly WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Ok so Angus do you therefore believe that Riona is the seer? Who should she peek next then?

    We have 3 conflicting stories here and a minefield of **** to wade through. Derry if you can hear this we really need you to give your totem to Clodagh or Angus IMO. And asap. We can't even begin to think of FFA's or who we're going to lynch tonight with all this fuss going on.


  • #2005
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    More lies.

    Clodagh's #FFA1:
    Mary
    Angus
    Riona

    And #FFA2:
    Conor
    Nigel
    Gabriel

    Ok yeah in fairness i swapped out Orla for Nigel as at the time they were more or less own brand versions of each other. I have misremembered who i put up.

    Thats a mistake in my memory but it doesnt change anything about my reveal.

    You can point out mistakes all you want, but you are blatantly ignoring that none of your information can be checked and verified, except by Derry.


  • #2006
    Orla WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Ok so Angus do you therefore believe that Riona is the seer? Who should she peek next then?

    We have 3 conflicting stories here and a minefield of **** to wade through. Derry if you can hear this we really need you to give your totem to Clodagh or Angus IMO. And asap. We can't even begin to think of FFA's or who we're going to lynch tonight with all this fuss going on.

    Think Derry said that he had given his totem earlier, but not to whom.

    We might be waiting because the person he gave it to has yet to appear online.


  • #2007
    Angus WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Actually, let's pull out the main players' FFAs here while we're at it:

    #FFA1s:
    Riona - Orla, Eva, Ewan
    Angus - Desmond, Henry, Eva

    Clodagh - Mary, Angus, Riona
    Orla - Fiona, Mary, Riona
    Eva - Barbara, Riona, Gabriel


    #FFA2s:
    Riona - Jake, Nigel, Orla
    Angus - Henry, Doris, Ewan

    Clodagh - Conor, Nigel, Gabriel
    Orla - Fiona, Riona, Nigel
    Eva - didn't do one


  • #2008
    Riona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭Riona WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Completely loaded question which you genuinely have no interest in the answer to. Good to see you moved beyond 'LOL' though.

    Lol


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    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭duffman13


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  • #2010
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Lynch Form

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  • #2011
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Jake WW wrote: »
    Is having fun mandatory or optional?

    Fun is Mandatory, particularly structured fun!

    I enjoy posting in Bold if you havent noticed. Its the little things :cool:


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