What do you do with people like this?

Motivator wrote: »

Watching this made me sad and angry in equal measure. I often think back to a time where I didn’t watch these videos or read stories about these people because when I wasn’t aware of them or their behaviour - to me they didn’t exist. Thankfully where I live I don’t have to deal with people like her but stumbling on people like her is something that always seems to happen every time I go to Dublin.

Ireland, for all its positives, has some real issues and one of them being that this woman is allowed to have children. People can say what they want about America but this woman wouldn’t be left within 100 yards of a child in the US.

Well, as long as the mentally ill and people with problems don't bother YOU, then it's all grand. Pesky people with issues, ruining your nice little life.

You clearly haven't lived in the Bronx or any other low income part of the US. There are people like this and worse with custody of their kids.

How the hell did the Gards take so long to get there ??

Motivator wrote: »

Ireland, for all its positives, has some real issues and one of them being that this woman is allowed to have children. People can say what they want about America but this woman wouldn’t be left within 100 yards of a child in the US.

But at least she'd be allowed to buy a fully automatic assault rifle.

'Merica!

GreeBo wrote: »

Weirdly no-one thanked you for your contribution.
Knowing this your posting standard will hopefully improve.

Though you probably won't read this as you are out actively doing good and not just a keyboard warrior...right...right?:cool:

I thanked you for yours so you can sleep well tonight now. Im the giving kind. Perhaps an email to family and friends to alert them? The thanks on an annymous forum are terribly terribly important to you after all.

My point being saying you feel sorry for someone never ever ever benefits them.

Its a trite meaningless thing people say and well I find it insincere.

I mean I feel sorry for those that take it sincerly. I really do!.

This is exactly the kind of person I was talking about in the other thread about people with APD or some similar personality type, who IMO aren't capable of ever being properly "free citizens" without a risk to the public. After a certain number of run ins with the Gardai, they should be GPS tagged so that as soon as a call comes in reporting this kind of scumbaggery, the cops can look at an app and get an idea of which known scumbags were in the vicinity at the time.

It wouldn't be unconstitutional if it was done in lieu of a suspended jail sentence for the previous offence.

Witchie wrote: »

Why hasn't he been taken off her the previous day.

Perhaps also ask how many kids have been taken off her thus far?

Good quality door that.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't think she's not all there at all. To me it's clear she's just an asshole, behaving like an asshole. It's exactly because she's behaving unpleasantly that I regard her as an asshole before I'd conclude she has any sort of ill mental health or mental illness.

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say none, because social services generally don't separate children from their parents on the basis that their parents are behaving like assholes (there'd be a lot of parents separated from their children in AH if we did :pac:).

Besides, we gave up on that separating children from their mothers craic a while back when it was shown to be a terrible idea that led to much worse outcomes for both the parents and their children who were separated from them.

What to do with her? Start by telling her she's behaving like an asshole, and go from there.

I do think she has mental issues, but she is behaving like an as$hole, and issues or not this simply should not be acceptable.
I would guess she gets away with a lot because she is "soft spoken" compared to some squealish ones.

She is obviously very manipulative and merrily switches from attacker to victim and back again, so I would also guess she is a nightmare to work with for the guards and social workers.

The kid will not just learn that it's ok to go into a shop and throw a tantrum, he/she will learn that level of manipulation is his/her "get out of jail" card, and so the cycle continues.

Many of us have issues, this should not carry the level of "immunity" it seems to carry for people like herself, there are services available and I'm sure she has been offered many over the years, probably more than a lot of people who carry the same burden quietly.

edit : pointless post and threads are pointless. But I'm in a bad mood today.

Mountainsandh wrote: »

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't think she's not all there at all. To me it's clear she's just an asshole, behaving like an asshole. It's exactly because she's behaving unpleasantly that I regard her as an asshole before I'd conclude she has any sort of ill mental health or mental illness.

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say none, because social services generally don't separate children from their parents on the basis that their parents are behaving like assholes (there'd be a lot of parents separated from their children in AH if we did :pac:).

Besides, we gave up on that separating children from their mothers craic a while back when it was shown to be a terrible idea that led to much worse outcomes for both the parents and their children who were separated from them.

What to do with her? Start by telling her she's behaving like an asshole, and go from there.

I do think she has mental issues, but she is behaving like an as$hole, and issues or not this simply should not be acceptable.
I would guess she gets away with a lot because she is "soft spoken" compared to some squealish ones.

She is obviously very manipulative and merrily switches from attacker to victim and back again, so I would also guess she is a nightmare to work with for the guards and social workers.

The kid will not just learn that it's ok to go into a shop and throw a tantrum, he/she will learn that level of manipulation is his/her "get out of jail" card, and so the cycle continues.

Many of us have issues, this should not carry the level of "immunity" it seems to carry for people like herself, there are services available and I'm sure she has been offered many over the years, probably more than a lot of people who carry the same burden quietly.

edit : pointless post and threads are pointless. But I'm in a bad mood today.

Where do you draw the line, though? If she has borderline personality disorder (for example), can you say she's being an @sshole, or is it part of the illness? A lot of mental health problems make people behave in quite a horrible way. What do you do, try to treat and help them or tell them how awful they are?

That poor child. Heartbreaking.

Overheal wrote: »

“Don’t trayton me! Don’t choo trayton me!”

If I hadn’t lived in Ireland you could have convinced me everyone in the video was yelling in Swahili

Swahilli, or Igbo?

It's always uncomfortable seeing a kid getting this kind of example and start in life, but unless Social Services take him and get him into some kind of foster family there is little can be done.
Her, however, I would be taking by the pony tail and leaving her outside on the pavement.
Who needs someone wrecking their shop?

Think she'd have a decent case for false imprisonment mind you.