The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

23-05-2018 10:39PM

alot of foreigners throwing their oar in see this as a human rights issue, namely THEIR problem to solve too...eejits. it might seem well intended but it comes off as disingenuous...and then they go home!!

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 10:39PM

minikin wrote: »

Yeah Mary Lou, we treat mothers dreadfully here... like kidnapping them and murdering them and not returning their bodies... here’s to you Mary Lou... the acceptable face of murderers.

I am warming to Mary Lou, it's her party I can't stand. She could just as easily have joined FF or FG.

munsterlegend · 23-05-2018 10:39PM

mzungu wrote: »

I wouldn't agree there. In FF most of his party disagree with him and a little over half of FF voters agree with him. MM coming out as pro-choice was not a good career move and he may very well pay for it at the next election. Therefore I believe he is genuine in being pro-choice.

FF need to rely on far more than core FF vote now to get back into power. it was once enough but not anymore.

23-05-2018 10:39PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

Lol

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:39PM

mzungu wrote: »

munsterlegend wrote: »

I have it the other way around. Martin is a superb debater and is really a pro lifer but he also knows where votes lie so its a difficult position for him.

I wouldn't agree there. In FF most of his party disagree with him and a little over half of FF voters agree with him. MM coming out as pro-choice was not a good career move and he may very well pay for it at the next election. Therefore I believe he is genuine in being pro-choice.

He may be elected again but I think his position as leader might not be in great shape going forward.

23-05-2018 10:39PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

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namloc1980 · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

Perhaps you're confused. Abortion won't be compulsory. Hope that clears it up for you.

spookwoman · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

Who let justin barrett in

nullzero · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

And if you love your wife and other female relations vote yes

What if they are voting no?

rockatansky · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

manual_man wrote: »

Some people, when the word change is mentioned, automatically assume that change is a positive. I don't believe that change is always positive. I believe that it can be a positive or negative. There are people all over the world that are filled with sadness that viable lives are destroyed each and every day, in the apparent name of compassion. Exercise you vote. Vote for what you genuinely believe is compassionate

On Friday, we vote for the abandonment in this country of protections for the unborn. QA protection which we all relied on. Vote on what you feel in your heart. If you feel abandonment if life is the way to go, then please vote yes, if you want to vote against yourself, then please vote yes. Otherwise, if you value where you came from, if you believe in the sanctity of life, if you feel the pure love and everything that this embodies, then i implore you to vote no.

Resign yourself to the reality of it.

FrancieBrady · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Yes side wiping the floor with the No side.

Calina · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

minikin wrote: »

Yeah Mary Lou, we treat mothers dreadfully here... like kidnapping them and murdering them and not returning their bodies... here’s to you Mary Lou... the acceptable face of murderers.

I am warming to Mary Lou, it's her party I can't stand. She could just as easily have joined FF or FG.

thought she was ex-FF.

Water John · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Mary Lou was a member of FF.

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

minikin wrote: »

Yeah Mary Lou, we treat mothers dreadfully here... like kidnapping them and murdering them and not returning their bodies... here’s to you Mary Lou... the acceptable face of murderers.

I am warming to Mary Lou, it's her party I can't stand. She could just as easily have joined FF or FG.

She was part of FF before she joined SF. And her family was a FF family.

Trasna1 · 23-05-2018 10:40PM

munsterlegend wrote: »

I am surprised how few opinion polls there are for this referendum. Is there anything more recent than the one in the Irish Times?

They're expensive and the papers are broke.

DOS · 23-05-2018 10:41PM

railer201 wrote: »

1 to 8 on for a YES and 4 to 1 for a NO in the bookies when I checked earlier - Get your money on NO mate, you'll clean up.

The same bookies that had us in the top 3 to win the Eurovision due to hype?

Faugheen · 23-05-2018 10:41PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

You talk about 800 years of British oppression.

Yet you're happy for British doctors to carry out abortions on Irish women who need them?

Right so.

Martina1991 · 23-05-2018 10:41PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

Why aren't you calling for a repeal of the 13th and 14th amendments then?
Irish abortions are happening now and they will happen tomorrow.

They will happen next month, next year and for time to come.
Even if No wins the 8th saves no one.

Bannasidhe · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

Doltanian wrote: »

I’m voting No to give Future Irish Citizens a chance at life, I’d rather we didn’t abort and kill our own, I cannot believe people are so blind to follow the leftwing agenda to kill off Irish culture and identity, abort and kill your own, allow unrestricted foreign immigration and destroy the country, 800 years of British occupation didn’t get rid of the Irish people it will be the Irish people themselves who vote to commit national suicide with abortion just one step in their leftist Agenda.

I'll abort meself if the likes of you ever get any where near power in this country again.

joe40 · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

Future taoiseach and tanaiste?

They're working well together.

It wasnt me123 · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

nullzero wrote: »

Are you serious with this nonsense?

No

But I am just delighted he showed himself up to be the looper he is. Hopefully he'll never be elected to the failed TDs club the Seanad has turned out to be. If we voted for the representatives to be able to be put forward for the Seanad, he wouldn't get near the place. He's toxic

storker · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

My mrs told me that earlier. I thought she said Twink

4.4 million followers, not 44!

Itssoeasy · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

munsterlegend wrote: »

mzungu wrote: »

I wouldn't agree there. In FF most of his party disagree with him and a little over half of FF voters agree with him. MM coming out as pro-choice was not a good career move and he may very well pay for it at the next election. Therefore I believe he is genuine in being pro-choice.

FF need to rely on far more than core FF vote now to get back into power. it was once enough but not anymore.

I'd say the days of massive overall majorities are over for not just FF but FG(I don't think FG have ever had a majority on their own)

PopePalpatine · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

railer201 wrote: »

1 to 8 on for a YES and 4 to 1 for a NO in the bookies when I checked earlier - Get your money on NO mate, you'll clean up.

I don't think bookies accept chicken nuggets and cans of Monster as payment.

Overheal · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Conspiracy theories thread is two doors down.

No thank you.

FrancieBrady · 23-05-2018 10:42PM

DOS wrote: »

The same bookies that had us in the top 3 to win the Eurovision due to hype?

Do you understand betting? If you bet on the above the BOOKIE wins.

23-05-2018 10:43PM

gmisk wrote: »

Exactly how you would guess the usual I'm a simple kerry man shtick... Not good

As much as I expected then. Thanks.

pleas advice · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

joe40 wrote: »

Future taoiseach and tanaiste?

They're working well together.

which is which though?

CPTM · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

Mary Lou and Michael wiping the floor with the no side.

Never thought I'd be impressed with Mary Lou during a debate. She's hammering out some really strong points.

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2018 10:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

everybody with no connection to the country should stay the **** out of it

Bad news for English born estate owner Declan Ganley so

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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