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Since when have Communions become such a plebian affair?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    When I was young your communion was about having a mediocre meal in the local hotel, getting fivers in cards from aunties and uncles, and if you’re lucky one of your friends’ parents hiring a bouncy castle, which half the street got the use out of. These days they’ve become mini working-class weddings. Piss ups for the families, sweet carts, limos, candy floss machines, those tacky-as-ef Instagram/Facebook cardboard frames, hiring djs, renting out an area in a scummy pub, professional photo shoots, mothers and aunties and grannies booking their hair, tan, makeup months in advance, dads and uncles and grandads taking fashion tips from McGregor’s clan. It’s like a competition in some neighbourhoods to see who can get themselves in most debt to out-tack the people next door. The past few weeks in work I’ve heard numerous people talking about the “mad” communions they were at at the weekend. Seriously can people not leave the crates of Blue WKD and bags of poor quality cocaine for a day that’s not supposed to be about children? Pretty crass alright/fin
    It's alot to do with who can have the biggest communion. I seen one where my brother work's with a bouncy castle, popcorn machine, candy floss machine, two lots of food, mini go kart track, limo, ice cream van, macgican/face painters and dj. Just people trying to out do each other. Become a bit sad really.
    Cheapest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    EdEd wrote: »
    Creepy nonsense to be dressing up young girls as brides of christ.

    I actually wonder about that I would suspect white for christening and communion as symbol.of purity predates white for weddings. I am too lazy to Google it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    erica74 wrote: »
    Young girls in their communion dresses makes me think they're brides of jesus.

    Well, yes, Early recruitment technique for the Orders..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Sky King wrote: »
    I do get your point OP but communions are weird and creepy indoctrination ceremonies anyway. Al least this way we can kind of laugh at them a bit.

    Helium crucifix indeed! Wouldn't be much good hammering a nail into that, let me tell you!

    No they are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I was confirmed in 88, in France. Stuck in a little white dress, went to the service, went home, taken out of the little white dress. That was it. No money, no fancy dinner, I think the only gift I got was a little faux mother of pearl missal sent from Ireland by Grandma.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    EdEd wrote: »
    Creepy nonsense to be dressing up young girls as brides of christ.

    Not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Graces7 wrote: »
    No they are not.

    That's exactly what they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭threetrees


    I think the situation you describe is the exception rather than the norm, in my experience anyway. We've respected that our children are innocent and beautiful, with simple suits and dresses. No glitter, no tiaras, no pub, no bouncy castle. Just a simple dress and a small family gathering at home. The mini wedding scenarios are OTT and the exception as far as I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I actually think the whole mini wedding thing more reflects wedding obsession in this country. I never saw it mentioned as mini wedding where I had communion (in Slovenia) although they ditched the whole communion outfit nowdays and kids just wear some nice clothing under white tunic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I think subjecting children to sacraments they’re not old enough to understand into a church that’s lets face it, shown nothing but evil tendencies towards children,is a bit worrying. If they want to be members of the church then they should do that themselves when they’ve all the facts about the church they’re joining. New babies do not need to be absolved of anyone else’s sin, so can’t see the rush with needing to baptize them.

    Are communions really gone this way? I only know one kid getting his communion this year and they had food at home before bringing the kids off to a hotel with a pool near some water park in drogheda and that was the kids celebration. Seems a bit grim using a kids communion day to write yourself off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    threetrees wrote: »
    I think the situation you describe is the exception rather than the norm, in my experience anyway. We've respected that our children are innocent and beautiful, with simple suits and dresses. No glitter, no tiaras, no pub, no bouncy castle. Just a simple dress and a small family gathering at home. The mini wedding scenarios are OTT and the exception as far as I can see.


    I’d say it depends on where you live but it definitely seems to be the norm in lots of parts of Dublin. I think they calmed down a bit post Celtic Tiger but I’ve noticed this year for the first time ever the amount of people going along to communions of their friends’ kids as social events and excuses to get mouldy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Not sure if its just an Irish thing, but pub and drinking culture seems to apply to everthing here.

    My commumion and confirmation in 80s/90s London, mini sausage rolls and sandwiches in the school hall afterwards, and then my uncle bought his and mine immediate family out for dinner to the local steak house. Confirmation, the fanciest part was again my uncle and sponsor, driving me to the church in his Merc.

    Over here, experience of my families Baptisms, Communions, and Confirmations were all celebrated in the pub, and revolved around drink, even for the confirmations, where a pledge, which included support from families, were taken half and hour earlier.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Not.

    No, it absolutely is. Creepy and unnecessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    Went to one recently. I hadn't seen that much front boob, underboob, sideboob, otherwise squished boob, tanned thigh, plump bottom and bare back in quite some time. :pac:

    I got given icecream between two wafers after my First Communion and thought I was absolutely made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Why the fcuk would you put fake tan on a child?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Why the fcuk would you put fake tan on a child?
    Or worse put your child on the sunbeds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    threetrees wrote: »
    I think the situation you describe is the exception rather than the norm, in my experience anyway. We've respected that our children are innocent and beautiful, with simple suits and dresses. No glitter, no tiaras, no pub, no bouncy castle. Just a simple dress and a small family gathering at home. The mini wedding scenarios are OTT and the exception as far as I can see.
    Exactly as we did it when mine were small,no false crap, about the sacrament first,most Irish forget it,I see them langerated here in carrigaline every year,more worried about the price of a pint,and hair styles than the real meaning,sad Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    Even back when mine were having their communion, back in the 90's , I remember some of the mothers buying two outfits for themselves, one in case it was wet cold day, other in case it was sunny and dry, I could not fathom it, and boutique bought to boot, then off to expensive family event, I just did my thing, and we enjoyed it all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,686 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Graces7 wrote:
    i was at my landlord's eldest;s First Communion in deep rural Kerry, at a small church, a while ago. It was handled respectfully and lovely. The girl was the only one and it was an evening service. Very much a community/family service.

    Landlords eldest? Is this a new thing?

    Am I the only one that finds this odd?

    I suppose it's one way of ensuring a reference :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    Didn't the title of this thread originally say 'knackery'? Why would that be changed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,094 ✭✭✭✭briany


    'Plebian' - It's the new euphemism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    No, it absolutely is. Creepy and unnecessary.

    THere is nothing creepy about faith in Jesus Christ and to many it is absolutely necessary

    Maybe if you understood more..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Arrival wrote: »
    Didn't the title of this thread originally say 'knackery'? Why would that be changed?

    The term is highly offensive to some people :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    goat2 wrote: »
    Even back when mine were having their communion, back in the 90's , I remember some of the mothers buying two outfits for themselves, one in case it was wet cold day, other in case it was sunny and dry, I could not fathom it, and boutique bought to boot, then off to expensive family event, I just did my thing, and we enjoyed it all
    There is always a good excuse to buy some clothes. :D I'm not overly worried about adult clothes if they are worn again at different occasions. Communion outfits for kids are such a waste of money. in our case it's actually not as bad because we got married this year and kids are wearing stuff they wore to our wedding. We could do more for communion, kids would be delighted with bouncy castle but we just don't want to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Graces7 wrote: »
    THere is nothing creepy about faith in Jesus Christ and to many it is absolutely necessary

    Maybe if you understood more..

    I understand plenty. Children shouldn't be indoctrinated into a cult. 8 year old boys and girls eating the metaphorical body of a fictional being...weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Malayalam wrote: »
    Went to one recently. I hadn't seen that much front boob, underboob, sideboob, otherwise squished boob, tanned thigh, plump bottom and bare back in quite some time. :pac:

    I got given icecream between two wafers after my First Communion and thought I was absolutely made.
    I hope you're talking about the mothers.


  • Posts: 518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I understand plenty. Children shouldn't be indoctrinated into a cult. 8 year old boys and girls eating the metaphorical body of a fictional being...weird.

    who died for us, on a cross.... and we are eating him now




    On a lighter note.... ever see the toy, remote control fairy wings that some parents have their daughters wear on 1st Communion day. As they come walking back down from the altar the mums would make their wings flap by remote control as they sat in the congregation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,453 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    who died for us, on a cross.... and we are eating him now




    On a lighter note.... ever see the toy, remote control fairy wings that some parents have their daughters wear on 1st Communion day. As they come walking back down from the altar the mums would make their wings flap by remote control as they sat in the congregation.

    I need a link to that. For a friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I understand plenty. Children shouldn't be indoctrinated into a cult. 8 year old boys and girls eating the metaphorical body of a fictional being...weird.

    I don't think it's metaphorical. I think they actually believe that it is actually the body. Which is even weirder.

    Though in fairness most of them probably don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Graces7 wrote: »
    THere is nothing creepy about faith in Jesus Christ and to many it is absolutely necessary

    Maybe if you understood more..

    Maybe if you read more...

    I say that as an atheist who finds religion nuts so no personal offence to you but to many people religion is creepy and the church represents horror to children and women and families.

    I dont do church but have family who are religious and was at a cousins daughters communion recently. I skipped the church and was happy when the little girl got out of her dress into cumphy leggings (10 minutes after getting home) and we all have a lovely family party!


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