The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

21-05-2018 10:41PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

Anyone else watching the tonight show? Eamon Dumphy is being uncharacteristicly reasonable.

Had to laugh, he is voting no.
He voted no for divorce, but then got divorced!!

manual_man · 21-05-2018 10:41PM

Thanks for having me, mum

PARlance · 21-05-2018 10:43PM

seamus wrote: »

Nice. Something less contentious!

I genuinely think we can do 66%+ this time. SSM had people's attention, but it didn't have quite this much energy. And also, having seen the success of SSM, I think a lot of people will be more willing to engage with the voting process.

I don't think it'll get close to the SSM turnout myself. Polls (circa 1 month) in advance of SSM indicated an undecided of 10%, it's (undecided figure) about twice that this time around.

I think there's a lot of nervous "energy" among non vocal voters on both sides. The SSM was relatively cut and dry imo, voters were either for or against it. It was an "easier" vote. I think there are lots of voters on either side with doubts. They might not vote if those doubts remain.

You won't see those types of voters "debating" on here or on other social media.

I don't think the turnout will be above 50%. SSM turnount was 60.5% btw.

Itssoeasy · 21-05-2018 10:44PM

Jesus so this lad is saying a women who is raped should carry the baby to term ? Okay.

RobertKK · 21-05-2018 10:45PM

The poll: going for 60% to 69%.

Itssoeasy · 21-05-2018 10:45PM

Everton ? It's a bit of a strange annalogy.

Wrongway1985 · 21-05-2018 10:45PM

She has accepted she would support someone close to her having an abortion if choosing so...so just voting no for the craic so!

Checked her background in March 2015 she caused controversy by sending a tweet suggesting Mothers day and Fathers day would not be celebrated should same sex marriage be legalized

spookwoman · 21-05-2018 10:45PM

That guy theo is good for showing up the hypocrisy of the no side

gmisk · 21-05-2018 10:46PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I assumed that Fedelma Healy eimes(sp) was still a TD. It's seems she isn't.

A former rose of Tralee ?

Just to clarify she was never a TD only a senator, so not elected by the public.
She ran 4 times to try and get in as a TD, the last time getting a whopping 2.17% percent of the vote....

freshpopcorn · 21-05-2018 10:47PM

spookwoman wrote: »

That guy theo is good for showing up the hypocrisy of the no side

Yes in my experience they line is generally ''The baby did nothing wrong'' and a story about a woman who had no regrets!

Larbre34 · 21-05-2018 10:47PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Everton ? It's a bit of a strange annalogy.

Well he was hardly likely to say Liverpool's fullback, theyve a big game saturday.

Itssoeasy · 21-05-2018 10:47PM

spookwoman wrote: »

That guy theo is good for showing up the hypocrisy of the no side

And mentioning Everton football club in the 8th ammendment debate. That's a fecking new one on me.

Itssoeasy · 21-05-2018 10:48PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Everton ? It's a bit of a strange annalogy.

Well he was hardly likely to say Liverpool's fullback, theyve a big game saturday.

I hadn't thought about that.

alan partridge aha · 21-05-2018 10:48PM

If you're not sure vote NO

Cupcake_Crisis · 21-05-2018 10:49PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah and then she seemed confused about what was being asked.

Sorry lads who is the two guys on the panel ? Theo something is one guy but I don't know the guy on the very end.

You’re better off not knowing who he is tbh

gmisk · 21-05-2018 10:50PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

If you're not sure vote NO

Wow insightful thanks!

Or you could do some research and then make a decision.

Ave Sodalis · 21-05-2018 10:50PM

alan partridge aha wrote:

If you're not sure vote NO

If you're not sure, educate yourself more.

rgace · 21-05-2018 10:50PM

That "real man" comment was cringe. I always regret watching these abortion debates.

nullzero · 21-05-2018 10:51PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

If you're not sure vote NO

According to Theo that would make you not a "real man".
Poor panel, beauty queen spouting platitudes about how women are the backbone of the country, running the households of Ireland. Jesus, she's espousing a supposedly progressive campaign and putting women firmly back in the kitchen at the same time.

Larbre34 · 21-05-2018 10:51PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

Fidelma Healy Eames came out a doozy, the young woman who is voting no because she had NO choice. She clearly didn’t think that anecdote through. I despair.

She once met a 12yo girl with two pints in her hands.

Itssoeasy · 21-05-2018 10:52PM

gmisk wrote: »

Just to clarify she was never a TD only a senator, so not elected by the public.
She ran 4 times to try and get in as a TD, the last time getting a whopping 2.17% percent of the vote....

Grand, a senator then. I should have said I was sure she was still a member of the Oireachtas.

Dressing gown · 21-05-2018 10:52PM

I have to say i think the tonight show tonight has been the most balanced debate thus far. Worth a watch for undecideds. Imagine it will be on player if you missed it.

gmisk · 21-05-2018 10:52PM

rgace wrote: »

That "real man" comment was cringe. I always regret watching these abortion debates.

Me too.
Tbh I am dreading the prime time one tomorrow, hopefully it isn't dragged down into the gutters and is respectful and balanced.
I might just tape it and watch afterwards.

nullzero · 21-05-2018 10:53PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

No side lying b@stards that they would entertain a provision to deal with the hard cases!!

If you suggested that to them a year ago, theyd say they would in their wholes!!

They know their campaign is coming up short and they are now desperately trying to backpedal to keep half the genie in the bottle. The weak minded morons.

Best to spell check your posts before making sweeping comments about people's intelligence.
Both sides are making ar5es of themselves when you stand back and look at things objectively.

Larbre34 · 21-05-2018 10:53PM

Do we know who is lined up to appear on Prime Time tomorrow?

PARlance · 21-05-2018 10:54PM

nullzero wrote: »

According to Theo that would make you not a "real man".
Poor panel, beauty queen spouting platitudes about how women are the backbone of the country, running the households of Ireland. Jesus, she's espousing a supposedly progressive campaign and putting women firmly back in the kitchen at the same time.

Terrible panel.

gmisk · 21-05-2018 10:54PM

Dressing gown wrote: »

I have to say i think the tonight show tonight has been the most balanced debate thus far. Worth a watch for undecideds. Imagine it will be on player if you missed it.

It was the same the other night when I watched as well, like the fact checks

seamus · 21-05-2018 10:55PM

Dressing gown wrote: »

I have to say i think the tonight show tonight has been the most balanced debate thus far. Worth a watch for undecideds. Imagine it will be on player if you missed it.

Matt Cooper did a good interview today also. Everyone got tough questions, nobody was allowed get away with question dodging.

Larbre34 · 21-05-2018 10:57PM

nullzero wrote: »

Best to spell check your posts before making sweeping comments about people's intelligence.
Both sides are making ar5es of themselves when you stand back and look at things objectively.

Yeah thanks pal, I said whole in the same way you said ar5es. I am a in every respect a grammar nazi, and far more intelligent than most.

freshpopcorn · 21-05-2018 10:57PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Do we know who is lined up to appear on Prime Time tomorrow?

Yes is Professor Mary Higgins and Simon Harris.
No is Cora Sherlock and Peadar Tóibín or Ronan Mullen.(More likely Peadar Tóibín).

The 8th amendment referendum - part 4

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