Irish support for remaining in EU reaches all time high

The question is "Should Ireland remain in the EU?". Even as anti EU as I am, I don't think Ireland should shoot away and leave the EU on our own. It would be suicidal.

Do I think the EU should be disbanded and replaced with a free trade and movement treaty? Yes please.

SeanW wrote: »

That's a really bizarre claim considering that the EU appears to be hell bent on eliminating nation states, nation state identities and building a super-state. As to Ireland being a "distinct entity with its own traditions and history" perhaps you failed to note that EU proponent and Irish elite Peter Sutherland recommended that precisely this be destroyed by the EU.

As quoted by the BBC:

A quote from one guy with no context? No thanks. Frankly, if the best that Eurosceptics can do is dismiss dissenting opinion and facts as fake news then I'm being more and more tempted to just ignore them.

RDM_83 again wrote: »

This wouldn't be an issue if Peter Sutherland was just one guy or was even just a senior civil servant, the EU as it stands now has a major problem with nepotism and agendas being driven by cliques that don't derive their power from any popular legitimatecy, and keep in mind popular legitimacy isn't a dirty word it's the underpinning of democratic or Republican government systems.

Martin Selymar (Junkers successor is a prime example of this)

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-commission-selmayr/eu-lawmakers-roast-juncker-over-stitch-up-promotion-of-aide-idUKKCN1GO2K1

The above article says a lot, what says more is that despite all this opposition from the parliament it failed. I am not arguing for a EU parliament with greater power over internal nation state affairs but at a minimum they should have far more authority within the EU's internal processes

Fair point but ultimately the member states need to agree to cede more national powers to Brussels. I can't see the likes of Viktor Orban agreeing to that. I would like to see the EU Parliament become more powerful in the realm of EU affairs though.

Deleted User wrote: »

It's completely rational, I would suggest. EU legislation on an enormous range of issues from the environment to culture to justice has intellectually advanced the Irish worldview enormously from a conquered profoundly anglocentric population into a more intellectually open people. As far as I see it, there's zero point to a parliament in Dublin or Irish reunification if the ideas, thinking and mentality is essentially the one the English beat into the Irish. If the EU is "hell bent on eliminating" that imposition, it has my full, wholehearted support.

Well said.

While there is no doubt as to who the most influential current members of the EU are, the EU has provided a fairer and more cohesive framework for balancing the interests of the France/Germany/UK power concentration with those of the smaller economies. I would argue that membership of the EU has actually strengthened our sovereignty and has given us greater clout on the continental level, as well as (as you say) acting as an effective counterweight to anglocentrism on these islands. Our strong links with American business and our ability to passport business across the EU has helped us to act as a business conduit between two of the world's most powerful economic blocs, a situation which has provided young Irish people with the chance to take part in significant business transactions and projects on our own home soil. The harmonisation of many of our laws and regulations with the other member states has not only helped to further us economically, but has also engendered a very healthy national identity of being distinctly Irish but proudly European.

To me -- our continued membership of the EU is an absolute no-brainer. We have more influence now among the traditional European powers, not less. The Brexit affair looked set to be the litmus test as to Ireland's ability to assert its interests against our more powerful neighbour, and so far we have stood our ground with the full weight of our European partners behind us.

I thought our No1 Republican would despise the EU empire

Deleted User wrote: »

It's completely rational, I would suggest. EU legislation on an enormous range of issues from the environment to culture to justice has intellectually advanced the Irish worldview enormously from a conquered profoundly anglocentric population into a more intellectually open people. As far as I see it, there's zero point to a parliament in Dublin or Irish reunification if the ideas, thinking and mentality is essentially the one the English beat into the Irish. If the EU is "hell bent on eliminating" that imposition, it has my full, wholehearted support.

I think our ancestors must be turning into our graves.

kunst nugget wrote: »

They sound like the worst transformers ever.

They're not great, they couldn't do a full job of it and the end result seems a little lackluster.

Still they're ours I guess.

ArchXStanton wrote: »

See my previous post...

I see no evidence, just ravings about consipracy theories