December 2017 babies club

New farmers wife · 01-03-2018 04:29PM

I find myself thinking that when I was younger I loved snow, now with small small kids I hate it. Once they're big enough to go out it'll be great

donkey10 · 02-03-2018 02:34PM

Doubt this level of snow will come along again for a few years! Then again u wouodnt know!

New farmers wife · 02-03-2018 04:56PM

I really hope we never see this again, it's going to take so long to clear! It's hard to even know what day of the week it is!

Milly33 · 02-03-2018 05:27PM

Ohh tis so lovely though, finally got out for a walk in it, jes there is some amount.. There is mounds here on the road.. Watching drivers in it is scary though I cannot believe people are so stupid to go driving in it, tis mad..

lashes34 · 02-03-2018 05:37PM

Milly33 wrote: »

Bit of a dose so still...God what do ye think is the solution, are you kinda feeling any instincts yourself saying this would work? Have ye tried the Nanny Care milk?

The medication has made a big mprovement but its causing insomnia. She sleeps from 12 to 2 and then up til 6 or 7 theast 4 nights. Its pure torture. Docs are closed til Monday so cant see what our other options are as I cannot keep this up.

Hating the snow, hubby works nearly an hour away and the road is i passable so when he rang this morning he was told he had to go to the station in town so had to walk there, its only about 2km away but still in this weather.

New farmers wife · 02-03-2018 11:53PM

Is she sleeping during the day? What medication did you get for her? Is she on ordinary formula?
My husband went to drive to work today and got stuck in a mound of snow, he had made it thru a few before that, luckily there was a tractor came along and pulled him out so he spent a few hours building an igloo with our little girl and his nieces and nephews!

lashes34 · 03-03-2018 01:18AM

Yep she'll sleep during the day on me only. On Losec 5mg once a day and back on regular Aptamil.

Pocos · 03-03-2018 02:06AM

Milly33 wrote: »

Did ye escape New Farmers then? Very odd the places that are being hit... Even in Cork Kinsale by the sea got a fierce fall of snow but up in the hills there is no sign of it... Would the brand be on the bibs by any chance? I have one or two that are good and few rubbish ones.. Tis worth getting good ones for the sake of sanity..

Hi milly , regarding bibs we got some in next, they are in a packet of 4 saying dribble proof on them!
For girls it has two pink and two white, We a popper to the side to tie them not Velcro! So they don’t fall off and they dry up oretty quick. Can’t remember the price but we find them the best price!!

shesty · 03-03-2018 09:49AM

Bee06 don't get a smear test for a few months.Talk to your GP first too.
They used to do them as a matter of course around six weeks after birth (or 12) but they stopped because they were returning too many abnormal results needing retesting, which were generally normal then.Whatever it is about childbirth, you need to give a few months before testing or it's kind of pointless.I think I had smears done when both my babies were around the 8/9 mth mark.Probably could have gone a couple months earlier, but definitely not this close to the birth anyway.

shesty · 03-03-2018 09:51AM

Lashes, how old is your baby now?Our first had silent reflux, she was on Zantac twice a day from about 6 weeks.She had an absolute motherf%&ker of a sleep regression around 13 weeks though.Would that be it?Nearly killed us, our second didn't have anything so drastic.

bee06 · 03-03-2018 09:53AM

shesty wrote: »

Bee06 don't get a smear test for a few months.Talk to your GP first too.
They used to do them as a matter of course around six weeks after birth (or 12) but they stopped because they were returning too many abnormal results needing retesting, which were generally normal then.Whatever it is about childbirth, you need to give a few months before testing or it's kind of pointless.I think I had smears done when both my babies were around the 8/9 mth mark.Probably could have gone a couple months earlier, but definitely not this close to the birth anyway.

It’s supposed to be three months after birth. The hospital, PHN and the cervical screening phone line were all very insistent on that.

Anne_cordelia · 03-03-2018 09:55AM

It’s 3 months post partum for a smear

shesty · 03-03-2018 10:06AM

That's fair enough....just check with the GP first.That's what I was told in the Rotunda and by the GP.And since I had had one less than three years before giving birth I was told I didn't need one again until the end of the three year window, whenever that worked out to be.

bee06 · 03-03-2018 10:13AM

shesty wrote: »

That's fair enough....just check with the GP first.That's what I was told in the Rotunda and by the GP.And since I had had one less than three years before giving birth I was told I didn't need one again until the end of the three year window, whenever that worked out to be.

Yep, my test was due last July so I couldn’t get it at the time. That’s why I need it now.

Anne_cordelia · 03-03-2018 10:28AM

bee06 wrote: »

Yep, my test was due last July so I couldn’t get it at the time. That’s why I need it now.

Mine was due while I was pregnant too. They did it 3 months PP.

lashes34 · 03-03-2018 12:05PM

She'll be 11 weeks tomorrow and this started Monday so she was 10 weeks old. Same day as when we started meds and from talking to others on a reflux FB group its a common side effect. Zantac doesnt seem to cause insomnia so will speak to the doc Monday and see if she will change it over. Did you find zantac good?

Milly33 · 03-03-2018 01:59PM

Thanks Pocos, will keep note I have a little book for all the good bits and bobs that people recommend.. Tis worth paying a the extra for the good ones I would think, they would drive me bonkers otherwise with the changing...

I am so convinced herself has managed to say Hi! Tis gas it seems to be her favourite word, the smiles that come out of her.. Trying to teach her a little sign language too so using sign and it keeps her entertained if anything...

Pocos · 03-03-2018 02:01PM

You are very welcome milly! Good bibs are a must!!

shesty · 03-03-2018 02:13PM

lashes34 wrote: »

She'll be 11 weeks tomorrow and this started Monday so she was 10 weeks old. Same day as when we started meds and from talking to others on a reflux FB group its a common side effect. Zantac doesnt seem to cause insomnia so will speak to the doc Monday and see if she will change it over. Did you find zantac good?

Ah right.Well it worked for us, but you know it's a bit trial and error.We used SMA comfort milk too, just easier on her digestion.
She was on it morning and evening.She was never a puker though but she was swallowing and gulping a lot, she was obviously 'puking' but it was just cycling up and down inside her throat.The Zantac took the pain out of it, so she seemed to manage better then.Daytime sleep didn't happen, it combined with her being a very alert baby.So at 16 weeks I had to start bringing her to her cot for naps, and just instigating a napping routine through the day.....two hours since she last woke.Had to let her learn to fall asleep herself, we couldn't feed her to sleep or anything.She only ever catnapped for 40mins at a time, just had to accept that. Did the usual, tipped up the head of the bed, the pram was barely used....had to get an infant insert for the buggy and tip the flat seat up one notch for her, which worked, she would fall asleep on walks that way as she got older.
It's very tough but you learn to find ways to work around it.And yes...you slightly envy those people with 'normal' babies, walking round with them in carseats in buggies and going to mother and baby yoga and the like (!!-all out of the question for ours anyway!).
My second was a walk in the park in comparison.

donkey10 · 04-03-2018 09:19PM

Hey lookin for some advice here on sleeping. My little lad is almost 7 weeks old. At the start he would cry when hungry and once fed and changed he would go back to sleep in his cot when put down. Im bf by the way.
Then from about week 3.5 onwards he would be up from 10am to about 3/4pm feeding the whole time. He would then sleep for maybe 3 hours.

Now he would be awake nearly all day, when i try put him down after him fallin asleep on me he wakes up after about 10 mins and is crying. Really hes gettin no sleep unless he sleeps on me during the day.

Hes very good then by night - i give him a bottle before bed and try get him down by 11.30 which does take a lot of ssshhing etc but he does seem to know the difference between night and day..he would sleep until around 5ish wake for a feed and change and then bac to sleep until about 9.

Anyone else been in the same boat? Ive tried puttin him into buggy durin the day and rockin him but to no avail. He does yawn a good bit durin the day too. Is it possible a baby can lack sleep?

Any help greatly appreciated!

bee06 · 04-03-2018 09:28PM

My little boy only sleeps on me during the day as well. I’ve tried everything except getting a sling but nothing has worked. I’m going to rent a sling on Friday to see if he’d sleep in that but if it doesn’t work then I’ve accepted that I just will spend my days acting as a mattress. It won’t last forever.

At night he goes to sleep at 8pm. Will sleep til 12/1 and wake for a feed, he’ll wake again around 4am and then at 6am. Sometimes he’ll go back to sleep again for another 30 mins or hour. I’m exclusively bf.

If you didn’t try and put him down to sleep during the day would he sleep for long?

donkey10 · 04-03-2018 10:37PM

bee06 wrote: »

My little boy only sleeps on me during the day as well. I’ve tried everything except getting a sling but nothing has worked. I’m going to rent a sling on Friday to see if he’d sleep in that but if it doesn’t work then I’ve accepted that I just will spend my days acting as a mattress. It won’t last forever.

At night he goes to sleep at 8pm. Will sleep til 12/1 and wake for a feed, he’ll wake again around 4am and then at 6am. Sometimes he’ll go back to sleep again for another 30 mins or hour. I’m exclusively bf.

If you didn’t try and put him down to sleep during the day would he sleep for long?

At night time yeah like he would defo sleep for about 5/6 hours straight before waking for quick feed and changfe and back to sleep im happy with that.
It so hard to get anythin done during day when he doesnt sleep in a cot. I sometimes think its because hes an exceptional hungry baby and maybe im not producin enough milk?? I duno is that possible? I just dont see how him being feeding for a couple hours straight gives him a good flow of milk.

Where are u going to get the sling?

I think its also prob coz he likes the warmth etc and knows well he will be picked up if he cries for a while in the cot

Im just afraid if he cannot go to sleep himself that he wont learn how to do it as he gets older

New farmers wife · 04-03-2018 10:43PM

My first girl never slept during the day until she was 6 months, it was like you, she would sleep on me, once you put her down she was awake again. By 8 weeks she slept 8 hours at night but just not during the day, once she went into her own room in her cot she slept during the day and became a great sleeper. I know it's no consolation but my little girl grew out of not sleeping during the day

donkey10 · 04-03-2018 11:01PM

New farmers wife wrote: »

My first girl never slept during the day until she was 6 months, it was like you, she would sleep on me, once you put her down she was awake again. By 8 weeks she slept 8 hours at night but just not during the day, once she went into her own room in her cot she slept during the day and became a great sleeper. I know it's no consolation but my little girl grew out of not sleeping during the day

Would u just let her sleep on u so? Isnt it strange that she settled and slept when she was in her own room - was that when she was 6 months?. Im so afraid he wont end up doin that!
I suppose one of lookin at it is if there tired they will sleep! Howd ur little lad doing?

Milly33 · 04-03-2018 11:14PM

I know I'm like the party pooper saying tis all about routine, but there has to be sense in it.. Do you have your feeding times down during the day or is it feed on demand? Just so you know when she is ready to sleep.When yous say you put her down do you put her into her cot/basket in a separate room..

Even though it is hard (putting her in her own room) we found that worked great for during the day... We used to put her into her buggy downstairs too during the day, but just found like that she woke up more which had a knock on effect on her sleeping pattern, mood.. Tis like she could tell when you left the room

.. Started last week now putting her into her big cot upstairs for her nap.. Swadlling her and just having an environment that she associates with sleeping or even a comfort/safe zone...We used to put her into the cot after her bath so she kinda knows the cot already and she is quite happy in it.. So maybe that could be something get her used to the cot as being a safe spot and she might like it more...

Tis so hard knowing what is good to do for them, herself is 9weeks and a bit and I think she is going through another growth spurt, she is sleeping more in the evening which is fine but then you get worried ahh should they sleep that much.. So true when everyone says just go with what you think yourself

justwhatithink · 04-03-2018 11:36PM

I had this problem too during the day where he went from only sleeping on me, to waking if I put him down to not sleeping at all some days. I didn't know what to do, I had no clue what I was even trying to do. I'm a bottle feeder. Anyhow, I discovered a few weeks ago he was able to put himself to sleep, I just didn't know it or the signs. Now he will go off to sleep for naps if I put him down at the right time...how long hel sleep for is still a lottery though but I feel I've had some success with the groundwork being laid too for him getting older and needing some sleep training. Anyhow after his feed he has a play...in the bouncer or on the play mat...I keep a tight eye on him and look out for the signs...goes still, glazed eyes, gets cranky/bored, yawning etc...I pick him up on my shoulder and if he puts his head down it's a good sign to head straight for the crib and put him down once his eyes are dropping ... so he's sleepy but awake. The room is warm & dark, I put him in the grobag and say time for sleep and kiss him. Hel nod off quickly in the crib then and not miss my warmth given he's not falling asleep on me. He gets the dodi sometimes if he whinges going down. Duno if any of this helps but some of it might be worth a try...nobody told me what I should be doing/looking out for and it was weeks of stress and watching him for hours learning about him that has got me this far and it's far from perfect but it's something. It all takes time and I believe for some babies they have to be ready too for different techniques, changes etc.
I was using a sling in the desperation stages, he'd fall asleep really quickly in it but then I was still stuck with him on me.
I made more progress today settling him back to sleep when he woke during a nap by leaving my hand on his chest and hiding down the side of the crib...just said I'd try it and bingo. Probably won't work tomorrow but sure there you go, trial and error. It's tough in the interim though while you're dealing with it, worrying about it and trying to figure it ouT. We should all be given postnatal baby coaching rather than antenatal classes telling you how to change a nappy...that's the easy bit!

bee06 · 05-03-2018 02:12AM

donkey10 wrote: »

At night time yeah like he would defo sleep for about 5/6 hours straight before waking for quick feed and changfe and back to sleep im happy with that.
It so hard to get anythin done during day when he doesnt sleep in a cot. I sometimes think its because hes an exceptional hungry baby and maybe im not producin enough milk?? I duno is that possible? I just dont see how him being feeding for a couple hours straight gives him a good flow of milk.

Where are u going to get the sling?

I think its also prob coz he likes the warmth etc and knows well he will be picked up if he cries for a while in the cot

Im just afraid if he cannot go to sleep himself that he wont learn how to do it as he gets older

It’s highly unlikely that you have an issue with supply as long as he’s having plenty of wet nappies and is gaining weight so I wouldn’t worry about that. Keep feeding on demand because the one sure way to impact your supply is to schedule his feeds. Have you heard of the fourth trimester? Have a read of the article below, I think it has a good explanation of why our babies want to sleep on us and be near us.

For the sling I’m going to a Babywearing Ireland sling meeting. They have a library where you can borrow a sling for a month for 10 Euro to try one out.

https://sarahockwell-smith.com/2012/11/04/the-fourth-trimester-aka-why-your-newborn-baby-is-only-happy-in-your-arms/amp/

Pocos · 05-03-2018 07:06AM

donkey10 wrote: »

Hey lookin for some advice here on sleeping. My little lad is almost 7 weeks old. At the start he would cry when hungry and once fed and changed he would go back to sleep in his cot when put down. Im bf by the way.
Then from about week 3.5 onwards he would be up from 10am to about 3/4pm feeding the whole time. He would then sleep for maybe 3 hours.

Now he would be awake nearly all day, when i try put him down after him fallin asleep on me he wakes up after about 10 mins and is crying. Really hes gettin no sleep unless he sleeps on me during the day.

Hes very good then by night - i give him a bottle before bed and try get him down by 11.30 which does take a lot of ssshhing etc but he does seem to know the difference between night and day..he would sleep until around 5ish wake for a feed and change and then bac to sleep until about 9.

Anyone else been in the same boat? Ive tried puttin him into buggy durin the day and rockin him but to no avail. He does yawn a good bit durin the day too. Is it possible a baby can lack sleep?

Any help greatly appreciated!

Hi donkey,
Sorrry to hear your little lad won’t sleep during the day! I’m EBF too. My little one will go down for sleeps during the day in buggy but there was a few days she just wouldn’t. Same as you described would wake when put down. After a day or two I just decided to let her sleep on me for at least an hour then put her down. Not ideal but at least I knew she wasn’t completely overtired. I have a book which says they should have about 3 hours of daytime naps. I know it’s a pain but maybe you could split it the three hours into 2 or 3 naps.

Anyway long story short after a week I started to put her down sooner than the hour and now after ten mins she will go into the buggy during the day! I know it’s not ideal and people will say we are giving them bad habits (which I’m sure I have!) but i think they are only small once and sometimes they just want the cuddle and security of you when falling asleep! It won’t be forever so I try and enjoy that ten minutes of cuddles!

It might take a bit of work but I just accepted it! After a feed I would sit on couch put on tv relaxed and let her sleep! I think it got rid of the over tiredness and after a few days her little body got used to naps.

Anyway that was just my experience. Have you tried gro bags? That night helps too as they are still very toasty going into the buggy

Best of luck with it.

donkey10 · 05-03-2018 12:34PM

Milly33 wrote: »

I know I'm like the party pooper saying tis all about routine, but there has to be sense in it.. Do you have your feeding times down during the day or is it feed on demand? Just so you know when she is ready to sleep.When yous say you put her down do you put her into her cot/basket in a separate room..

Even though it is hard (putting her in her own room) we found that worked great for during the day... We used to put her into her buggy downstairs too during the day, but just found like that she woke up more which had a knock on effect on her sleeping pattern, mood.. Tis like she could tell when you left the room .. Started last week now putting her into her big cot upstairs for her nap.. Swadlling her and just having an environment that she associates with sleeping or even a comfort/safe zone...We used to put her into the cot after her bath so she kinda knows the cot already and she is quite happy in it.. So maybe that could be something get her used to the cot as being a safe spot and she might like it more...

Tis so hard knowing what is good to do for them, herself is 9weeks and a bit and I think she is going through another growth spurt, she is sleeping more in the evening which is fine but then you get worried ahh should they sleep that much.. So true when everyone says just go with what you think yourself

No set feeding times im feedin on demand as breastfeeding. Fair play to u been able to get it in gear with the routine. Its times like this i wish i had one too if i was bottle feedin.

It depends re nap time during the day about a seperate room as ive tried a mixture .This week im just goin to try him in his cot in the room see how goes. I suppose its a lot about trial and error !!

donkey10 · 05-03-2018 12:39PM

justwhatithink wrote: »

I had this problem too during the day where he went from only sleeping on me, to waking if I put him down to not sleeping at all some days. I didn't know what to do, I had no clue what I was even trying to do. I'm a bottle feeder. Anyhow, I discovered a few weeks ago he was able to put himself to sleep, I just didn't know it or the signs. Now he will go off to sleep for naps if I put him down at the right time...how long hel sleep for is still a lottery though but I feel I've had some success with the groundwork being laid too for him getting older and needing some sleep training. Anyhow after his feed he has a play...in the bouncer or on the play mat...I keep a tight eye on him and look out for the signs...goes still, glazed eyes, gets cranky/bored, yawning etc...I pick him up on my shoulder and if he puts his head down it's a good sign to head straight for the crib and put him down once his eyes are dropping ... so he's sleepy but awake. The room is warm & dark, I put him in the grobag and say time for sleep and kiss him. Hel nod off quickly in the crib then and not miss my warmth given he's not falling asleep on me. He gets the dodi sometimes if he whinges going down. Duno if any of this helps but some of it might be worth a try...nobody told me what I should be doing/looking out for and it was weeks of stress and watching him for hours learning about him that has got me this far and it's far from perfect but it's something. It all takes time and I believe for some babies they have to be ready too for different techniques, changes etc.
I was using a sling in the desperation stages, he'd fall asleep really quickly in it but then I was still stuck with him on me.
I made more progress today settling him back to sleep when he woke during a nap by leaving my hand on his chest and hiding down the side of the crib...just said I'd try it and bingo. Probably won't work tomorrow but sure there you go, trial and error. It's tough in the interim though while you're dealing with it, worrying about it and trying to figure it ouT. We should all be given postnatal baby coaching rather than antenatal classes telling you how to change a nappy...that's the easy bit!

So true them classes be well worth it!! Although would never work every baby been diff and all that!
Im gonna start today for the week again and see if i do it solidly for the week the samr thing - pit down when i see the signs in his cot in the room and see does it make any difference fingers crossed!these forums are better than any classes hehe

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