Severe Winter Weather: ESSENTIAL PREPARATIONS, TRAVEL ADVICE, DRIVING TIPS & CLOSURES

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

What's the opinion here on having two front winter tyres ?

My civic that I bought recently came with two front winter tyres. I only live about 5 miles if even from work but I've a few hills along the way.

Get a full set of winter tyres.
Swap them out in the Spring, back on in the winter months. Don't understand the logic of only buying a front pair.

It's crazy people going to work if its not essential. The Emergency services end up having to attend numerous avoidable collisions and roadside rescues and the A&E's end up being clogged with the broken wrist 'it's only a bit of snow' brigade.

This country needs more red warnings. And Bank Holidays.

Patww79 wrote: »

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Which are not up the job in these conditions or in v. low temperatures

sadie9 wrote: »

It's crazy people going to work if its not essential. The Emergency services end up having to attend numerous avoidable collisions and roadside rescues and the A&E's end up being clogged with the broken wrist 'it's only a bit of snow' brigade.

Broken wrists? Get proper shoes. Bloody hell, I've heard it all now.

Clamball wrote: »

But those countries are prepared to have this sort of weather regularly. Ireland is not. And a red weather warning is risk of imminent danger, so not to be taken lightly. If someone does not want to risk travelling to work in those conditions then I will let them stay home.

I understand what you mean and thats very true, we don't (often) have temperature extremes / snow in Ireland. In fact I think the airports staff are doing a great job at the moment around the country, considering how little practice they have.
I was referring to walkable distance or feasible public transport routes only. Perfectly safe on a heavy bus with a good driver. I wouldn't like to drive in that with my own car mind you, out of fear of other drivers as well! The temperature is not so low as to be dangerous for most people. I mean, previous generations dealt with this adversity far more often.

Stern wrote: »

I'm at work, will be heading home at 5:30pm if the snows allow, and no I don't live right beside work. I've been updating my team with public transport notices and so far everyone's routes are looking to stay open. None of my team feel I am being unreasonable, I have a very good relationship with all of them, and because of a reasonable amount of planning they were able to come into work. Tomorrow I think may be a different story but it's really not a major issue today.

Overall the responses to my post in this thread make me despair at the lack of work ethic and personal responsibility in this country. I totally agree that safety comes first but there are a lot of workarounds and alternatives available to those people who plan properly and do a bit of research in how to prepare for situations like this. This allows people to carry out their job even in rare weather occasions (depending on the job of course).

How much of your and their working day has been spent searching for and planning with these updates in addition to posting about it all on an online forum? Can't be that productive of a day. Reasonable and all as they might think you are, I'd bet most of them are totally distracted and wondering how they are going to juggle kids, commute and driving later.

I totally respect your attitude and you're right that it should be business as usual today in most places but, unfortunately, this is Ireland and we're just not prepared to deal with snow. I don't think anyone is really at fault for this lack of preparedness either, something that happens 'once in a blue moon' can't really be that high a priority. We do the best we can whenever this rarity materialises and things have improved massively since 2010.

In light of the forecast for tomorrow, I think it would be wise of you to let people know now that they won't be expected in tomorrow so that they can plan accordingly.

no.8 wrote: »

I'd love to see how you fair living in central, eastern or nothern Europe for example.
Seems reasonable to me, this man's stance. If they are cut-off and don't want to risk driving then fair enough. If you are within walkable distance or can take a bus, then there is no reason you cannot make it in, albeit later and work a shorter day. It's not the same as hurricane force winds there danger lies in being outside, nor is it <-20C. Seems like people want to make any excuse to get time off.

Again, I think major wind storms pose far more immediate danger to health and warnings should be respected.

Stop embarrassing yourself, as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread. WE ARE NOT IN EASTERN EUROPE!!

we are a moderate climate and no we should not be equipped to deal with weather extremes.

I gather yourself and that stern chap there would be giving out reems if the government spent 30 million on snow ploughs just to have them sit idle for 7 years at a time.

You are gas, and Stern is even funnier its the likes of him that has lorries jackknifed and cars into ditches making sure 'his' employees turn up to whatever run of the mill job they have. Dont think your special Stern its just a job and you cant take those work memories to the grave with you. Im sure the last breath out of your mouth will be about how hard you worked on the 28th of Feb 2018......




and to go an question peoples work ethic. Yeah good luck buddy, there are far smarter and harder working people than you sitting at home today with their families.

Dublin Bus has cancelled all services for tomorrow.

So are we still expecting a fresh blast later on?

Asking for a friend who wants to know if they will have to go in tomorrow....

snow_bunny wrote: »

Stern wrote: »

I'm at work, will be heading home at 5:30pm if the snows allow, and no I don't live right beside work. I've been updating my team with public transport notices and so far everyone's routes are looking to stay open. None of my team feel I am being unreasonable, I have a very good relationship with all of them, and because of a reasonable amount of planning they were able to come into work. Tomorrow I think may be a different story but it's really not a major issue today.

Overall the responses to my post in this thread make me despair at the lack of work ethic and personal responsibility in this country. I totally agree that safety comes first but there are a lot of workarounds and alternatives available to those people who plan properly and do a bit of research in how to prepare for situations like this. This allows people to carry out their job even in rare weather occasions (depending on the job of course).

How much of your and their working day has been spent searching for and planning with these updates in addition to posting about it all on an online forum? Can't be that productive of a day. Reasonable and all as they might think you are, I'd bet most of them are totally distracted and wondering how they are going to juggle kids, commute and driving later.

I totally respect your attitude and you're right that it should be business as usual today in most places but, unfortunately, this is Ireland and we're just not prepared to deal with snow. I don't think anyone is really at fault for this lack of preparedness either, something that happens 'once in a blue moon' can't really be that high a priority. We do the best we can whenever this rarity materialises and things have improved massively since 2010.

In light of the forecast for tomorrow, I think it would be wise of you to let people know now that they won't be expected in tomorrow so that they can plan accordingly.

A decent amount of time, I admit. But it's part of managing my team. As to time on this thread, people spend more time on smoke breaks so not really too worried about it. Fortunately for me, my team are all childless and live within public transport range and don't drive, hence my expectations of them. If I ran an outdoor business in Wicklow, I wouldn't have these expectations. Or if they had kids, relatives to care for, or had a condition which puts them at greater risk. I am not compromising safety with my expectations.

Stern wrote: »

A decent amount of time, I admit. But it's part of managing my team. As to time on this thread, people spend more time on smoke breaks so not really too worried about it. Fortunately for me, my team are all childless and live within public transport range and don't drive, hence my expectations of them. If I ran an outdoor business in Wicklow, I wouldn't have these expectations. Or if they had kids, relatives to care for, or had a condition which puts them at greater risk. I am not compromising safety with my expectations.

If you're in Dublin the buses are off tomorrow.