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Catherine Nevin has Died

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  • #32
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    spurious wrote: »
    I always thought that was an odd case.
    She was probably guilty, but wasn't it all on the say-so of others?
    Was there any actual evidence? Money changing hands, weapon produced etc.?

    How do you mean? According to her convictions, her husband’s death happened on her say so. If you get someone else to commit murder for you, you are still considered a murderer.


  • #33
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    maxresdefault.jpg

    RIP


  • #34
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭McCrack


    spurious wrote: »
    I always thought that was an odd case.
    She was probably guilty, but wasn't it all on the say-so of others?
    Was there any actual evidence? Money changing hands, weapon produced etc.?

    There was great amount of circumstantial evidence and direct evidence from three would be assassins against her.

    Enough mud for the jury to find her guilty


  • #35
    fergiesfolly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Why do the good always go so young?

    Cos Catherine has them murdered?


  • #36
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    spurious wrote: »
    I always thought that was an odd case.
    She was probably guilty, but wasn't it all on the say-so of others?
    Was there any actual evidence? Money changing hands, weapon produced etc.?

    Good article from Vincent Browne
    http://magill.ie/archive/wrongly-convicted
    The evidence of three witnesses against Catherine Nevin at her trial raise serious doubts about the reliability of her convinction. By Vincent Browne

    On 10 April 2000 Catherine Nevin was found guilty of the murder of her husband, Tom Nevin, on 19 March 1996. She was sentenced to life imprisonment and is serving her sentence at the Dochas Centre at Mountjoy.
    Her conviction hinged on the evidence of three witnesses, John Jones, Gerry Heapes and William McClean, all of whom said Catherine Nevin had asked the or solicited them to murder her husband or have her husband murdered, several years before the murder took place. There was no forensic evidence supporting the case against her. There was no eye-witness evidence, no admission by her of having been implicated in the murder of her husband. There was circumstantial evidence but it was made clear at the trial the circumstantial evidence could not have convicted her on its own.
    In his closing address, one of the prosecuting counsel, Tom O'Connell, stated: “You (members of the jury) should actually consider the soliciting charges before you go on to consider the murder charge because the soliciting charges or a finding of guilt in relation to one or more of he soliciting charges is necessary, and the prosecution accepts this, is necessary to support a finding on the murder charge..., there is insufficient circumstantial evidence to justify a finding of guilt on the murder charge.”
    And it is because of the frailties of the evidence of these three witnesses that concern arises about the safety of Catherine Nevin's conviction for the murder of her husband.

    It goes on a bit but in my opinion there wasn't enough evidence to convict. The behaviour of the media at the time of the trial was disgraceful too.


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  • #37
    Rekop dog
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    May she rest in peace.


  • #38
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    Good article from Vincent Browne
    http://magill.ie/archive/wrongly-convicted


    It goes on a bit but in my opinion there wasn't enough evidence to convict. The behaviour of the media at the time of the trial was disgraceful too.

    I think people rely too much on forensics. Remember much of our forensic knowledge is quite new and safe murder convictions were made before that.


  • #39
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Rot in Hell.


  • #40
    123balltv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Joe Duffy was devastated today :mad:


  • #41
    OldMrBrennan83
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    This post has been deleted.


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  • #42
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    Good article from Vincent Browne
    http://magill.ie/archive/wrongly-convicted


    It goes on a bit but in my opinion there wasn't enough evidence to convict. The behaviour of the media at the time of the trial was disgraceful too.

    Did you sit through the entire trial to form that opinion?


  • #43
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    123balltv wrote: »
    Joe Duffy was devastated today :mad:

    He's (Duffy) living near there.

    My Mum's partner knew them as a couple, he had no time for her. He was nice, she was not. Unfortunate that the husband was gaslighted by such a loon, for years, it cost him his life.


  • #44
    Doltanian
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    I'm surprised no feminist SJW has come in to defend this piece of filth yet. No loss, she can burn for all eternity now.


  • #45
    James 007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭James 007


    Rulmeq wrote: »
    Wasn't she banging a judge as well?
    No you are mistaken, she was up for jury duty that time


  • #46
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,105 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    The life she would have lead leading up to her husband's murder. Pure evil.

    I'm glad that she got her comeuppance last night. Rot in hell.


  • #47
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,416 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    How do you mean? According to her convictions, her husband’s death happened on her say so. If you get someone else to commit murder for you, you are still considered a murderer.

    Yes and I'm fairly sure what they said was true but legally is that all you need, a few people to say you asked them to do it? Was there any comeback for them? Would they not also be guilty of conspiracy to murder, even if they didn't actually carry it out?


  • #48
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Good riddance. A nasty piece of work if ever there was one.


  • #49
    Dev84
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    She was guilty as fxxk lads. All of the circumstantial evidence mounted up in the end. To much of it to be coincidental. She was riding a guard and a judge.


  • #50
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Rulmeq wrote: »
    Wasn't she banging a judge as well?

    Yes, it was the Garda first then the Judge interspersed with a few characters from the opposite side of the law if I recall correctly.

    How her poor husband put up with her I have no idea.


  • #51
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    spurious wrote: »
    Yes and I'm fairly sure what they said was true but legally is that all you need, a few people to say you asked them to do it? Was there any comeback for them? Would they not also be guilty of conspiracy to murder, even if they didn't actually carry it out?
    There was a 61 day trial so it was a bit more sophisticated then that.
    The press at the time were outrageous and she appeared on the surface anyway to lap up the notoriety.
    She appeared each day more glamorous
    and better groomed then the day before and her outfits were described in more detail then the evidence.
    I don’t believe for one moment it ever occurred to her that she would be found guilty.


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  • #52
    Dev84
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Jaysus feck.

    Do some posters think she should have been found innocent or something?


  • #53
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    How was anyone riding her? She looked rough as.


  • #54
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Remember hearing a story where the judge in question allegedly was hearing a case in a district court when a commotion began in the courtroom. It turned out to be a mouse causing the disturbance. The judge said something along the lines of "I don't know, mice in a courtroom". The defendant, quck as a whip said "No, but you know all about the pussy in Jack Whites". Two days for contempt followed.


  • #55
    Dev84
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Grueller wrote: »
    Remember hearing a story where the judge in question allegedly was hearing a case in a district court when a commotion began in the courtroom. It turned out to be a mouse causing the disturbance. The judge said something along the lines of "I don't know, mice in a courtroom". The defendant, quck as a whip said "No, but you know all about the pussy in Jack Whites". Two days for contempt followed.

    Fxxking brilliant!!


  • #56
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Life should mean life. She should have died on a cold bed in jail, not a nice comfortable hospice

    The dochas centre is comparatively cushy.


  • #57
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    The dochas centre is comparatively cushy.

    You still can’t put your coat on and go down to Dunnes. I don’t think I’d survive the confinement. I really don’t. It’s my idea of hell on earth.


  • #58
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    During her trial I always thought that she’d end up in Dundrum indefinitely. She has to have been totally insane or suffering from some sort of disorder. I still feel that her defense should have pushed for this in her case, not for any reason only so many criminals get lighter sentences for having a scratch on their knee these days.

    I now wonder if her brain tumor had been dormant for a number of years, but I suppose that’s a conspiracy theory.

    As a poster mentioned earlier it would be very curious to see if some memoirs surface. Now that I’d pay good money to read. No doubt there are some people that are/used to be in high places touching cloth right now.

    She deserved to die, but not of Cancer. Nobody deserves to die of Cancer.


  • #59
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,032 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Cushie Butterfield wrote: »
    During her trial I always thought that she’d end up in Dundrum indefinitely.

    When I saw this I said to myself for a second why would they send her to a shopping center!


  • #60
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    The dochas centre is comparatively cushy.

    Seemingly she got out & about on many occasions apart from hospital visits. She did some courses off-site as well as studying in Maynooth.


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  • #61
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    TheAnalyst_ wrote: »
    How was anyone riding her? She looked rough as.

    Well she did run a pub.....


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