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Vronsky · 03-01-2018 11:02PM

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I can't stand chat threads. I rarely look in them and never post in them. They are boring and cliquey tbh

retro:electro · 03-01-2018 11:03PM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that I have loads of pm's from people giving out about the chat in there. Not every point in there needs to be debated to death like it normally is.

Bltching? Unnecessary, no?

the_pen_turner · 03-01-2018 11:05PM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that I have loads of pm's from people giving out about the chat in there. Not every point in there needs to be debated to death like it normally is.

considering that there are 3 stinge posts in the last while that are not stingy or are more of a grey area of stinge.
how about some kind of way to point out that the post isn't stingy.

if there is a stingy chat thread opened would that be ok

Fr_Dougal · 03-01-2018 11:10PM

I wouldn’t even mind the discussion in the stinge thread so much, it’s the chat in the others that should be stamped out. Look at the TA threads etc., they’re chat threads where people post a TA as an afterthought, in most cases. No reason why the chat can’t be taken to FB or PM.

03-01-2018 11:14PM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that

They're not gonna like that one...

job seeker · 03-01-2018 11:17PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I wouldn’t even mind the discussion in the stinge thread so much, it’s the chat in the others that should be stamped out. Look at the TA threads etc., they’re chat threads where people post a TA as an afterthought, in most cases. No reason why the chat can’t be taken to FB or PM.

Agree,

I think that the only thread that suits no chat is certain picture threads. In that case, I wouldn't consider chit chat necessary!

EDIT: Read this wrong, I go into the trivial things thread very rarely, so I can't comment. Although, I think the stinge thread needs discussion.

I think it becomes extremely doom and gloom without a bit of discussion and removes the fun from it.

Vronsky · 03-01-2018 11:22PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I wouldn’t even mind the discussion in the stinge thread so much, it’s the chat in the others that should be stamped out. Look at the TA threads etc., they’re chat threads where people post a TA as an afterthought, in most cases. No reason why the chat can’t be taken to FB or PM.

I can't be the only one wondering, TA?

Fr_Dougal · 03-01-2018 11:25PM

Vronsky wrote: »

I can't be the only one wondering, TA?

Trivial Annoyance, trivial things that annoy you thread.

You’ll see chatty/flirty/rubbish replies first, and then a oh yeah TA is I am cold or some crap like that.

job seeker · 03-01-2018 11:25PM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that I have loads of pm's from people giving out about the chat in there. Not every point in there needs to be debated to death like it normally is.

Don't you mean discussing?;)

You just clearly stated in the stinge thread that chat in the thread would result in a ban!

So where do you expect members to discuss it? The farming and forestry forum?

hatrickpatrick · 03-01-2018 11:27PM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that I have loads of pm's from people giving out about the chat in there. Not every point in there needs to be debated to death like it normally is.

Ok well can you explain then, what specifically are they giving out about? Like, who comes to a discussion forum on the internet and expects people not to be discussing what's been posted? It's fairly bizarre - I don't think I've ever come across a rule like that on any other forum, ever, and particularly not for discussions happening inside a thread.

hatrickpatrick · 03-01-2018 11:28PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I wouldn’t even mind the discussion in the stinge thread so much, it’s the chat in the others that should be stamped out. Look at the TA threads etc., they’re chat threads where people post a TA as an afterthought, in most cases. No reason why the chat can’t be taken to FB or PM.

Why shouldn't it be open, though? Like if someone posts something that pisses them off and others agree, isn't that kind of the whole point of a forum - to have an open conversation about it?

Fr_Dougal · 03-01-2018 11:33PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why shouldn't it be open, though? Like if someone posts something that pisses them off and others agree, isn't that kind of the whole point of a forum - to have an open conversation about it?

I’m not talking about discussion, I’m talking about chit-chat circlejerk crap. Currently a lot of these threads are being used for pure chat and a TA etc is an afterthought.

Example from the TA thread:

Don't grow unnecessary fringes!

From the where are you right now thread

Can I come too?

Yeah, how is that discussion. It’s cringe.

retro:electro · 03-01-2018 11:37PM

You're right. It's comments like that that are bringing Boards to its knees :rolleyes:

GreeBo · 03-01-2018 11:39PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Example from the TA thread:

Unnecessary fringe growing.

Is that not the very definition of a trivial annoyance?

Fr_Dougal · 03-01-2018 11:41PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Is that not the very definition of a trivial annoyance?

No, it was a response to another poster. The poster who posted that comment didn’t have a trivial annoyance, it was chitchat.

PanBrian · 03-01-2018 11:43PM

Far too many people banned over the years and many took their fans with them. Again, FB, Twitter, Instagram, Discord servers etc have allowed people better expression.

_Dara_ · 03-01-2018 11:45PM

PanBrian wrote: »

Far too many people banned over the years and many took their fans with them. Again, FB, Twitter, Instagram, Discord servers etc have allowed people better expression.

Fans?

Permabear · 03-01-2018 11:49PM

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03-01-2018 11:57PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I’m not talking about discussion, I’m talking about chit-chat circlejerk crap. Currently a lot of these threads are being used for pure chat and a TA etc is an afterthought.

Example from the TA thread:

From the where are you right now thread

Yeah, how is that discussion. It’s cringe.

For you it is cringe. Also please give examples on these threads of circle jerking?

dxhound2005 · 03-01-2018 11:57PM

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I know dat, I know dat (insider reference). They all hate Joe Duffy but insist on listening to Liveline ever day and writing pages about how bad he is. I was invited not to post there any more for not toeing the party line.

josip · 04-01-2018 12:05AM

Conspectus wrote: »

While yere here bitching about that I have loads of pm's from people giving out about the chat in there. Not every point in there needs to be debated to death like it normally is.

I've been reading this thread for 75 pages and this is the stand out post so far.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 04-01-2018 12:23AM

The stinge thread has got out of hand in the past where there's really prolonged squabbling over some post. Inevitably a poster says "would ye STFU" maybe a mod says "yes, STFU", and it goes back to grand. Some of the best posts in that thread have been from people quoting and adding some colourful description, colloquialism or whatever, they're not directly contributing a stinge, that's just gone now is it? Or where's the line? I seriously thought that banning list was a joke. Like a funny haha one. But apparently it's the bad kind.

As for the chat on the trivial annoyances thread, honestly why are ye reading it if ye find it so annoying and cringey?

Permabear · 04-01-2018 12:57AM

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tomwaterford · 04-01-2018 01:03AM

Permabear wrote: »

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I'd imagine you'd probably find similar statistics on any thread?

Permabear · 04-01-2018 01:08AM

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retro:electro · 04-01-2018 01:14AM

Sure you'd know all about that, Perma :pac:

NegativeCreep · 04-01-2018 01:43AM

What really annoys me about this forum now is the constant right wing Vs. left wing.
A thread can be posted which was just clearly created to bait people into an argument (just look at the non-national taxi attack thread opened today) and it’ll be kept on the front page by BOTH sides of the argument. Left wingers constantly asking for links for information and right wingers complaining about SJW’s.

It’s just so boring and it feels like it’s EVERY thread. Have a bit of cop on and realise that you’re spreading the racism or the loony leftism every time you post in a thread that’s obviously bait. Ignore what you don’t like and it’ll fizzle out.

_Dara_ · 04-01-2018 01:44AM

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Thank you! I've thought of starting threads a few times and then though "Nah". Why? Well, it takes time and effort to construct a decent OP and if it gets posted and then pushed down the page by chat threads being posted in and refreshed, it won't get a chance to gain traction before it disappears without trace. Now of course, sometimes a thread isn't of interest and just doesn't gain posts for that reason. But as things stand currently, I believe that interesting threads could go unnoticed because of this. If there were a greater ratio of "fresh" threads, I absolutely would visit AH more often and I don't consider myself an unique snowflake. I'm sure others feel the same as I do. I am totally fed up of seeing so many of the same titles on the front page the whole time. And do the chat threads even attract a large number of readers and posters? There's a high volume of posts but is there a high volume of posters?

Can't we at least trial having less chat threads before people poo poo the notion? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the forum will die a death if some of the chat threads are consolidated. But I think I'm making some sense and it would be nice to see if I am. Especially as I have an inkling that the chat threads are no great shakes at bringing in a large number of posters.

For example, the beautiful women and beautiful men threads. I have no issues with them per se but at the same time, they're kinda pointless. We all have access to google images after all. They're pretty people. Big deal.

04-01-2018 01:48AM

Trialing having less chat threads will only be fair if we trial having less serious threads.
I say this because why should one group of posters lose out on something they enjoy?
Surely a better compromise is possible.

04-01-2018 01:52AM

Jesus this thread turned into the 'order your own personal boards.ie' didn't it

Thanks to the mods who hung around to fight their corner long enough for the discussion to die down from initial frustration and turn out to be interesting and illuminating from both sides.

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The slow death of forums see OP for Admin warning and update 28/02/18