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    #152
    paleoperson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    mIRC and ICQ... them's were the days. :rolleyes:

    I hate reddit and the layout of it and all the stupid jokes there that are ridiculous, but for some reason a lot of knowledgeable people seem to post there. I've been dragged into it.


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    #153
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Don Kiddick wrote: »
    "How can I get the space bar and the b key to work properly"??

    spell check fixes itvpeefectly


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    #154
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,091 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Been said a number of times but it’s the overzealous moderation which borders on censorship at times. People will lose interest eventually after their threads are continuously locked for saying something even the slightest bit not PC.


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    #155
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    looksee wrote: »
    It was always the way, in any organisation, the biggest group of complainers, of people who criticised everything 'the committee' did, who carped and gossiped and did their best to break things up, were the people who never made any actual contribution to the organisation. Kinda sad really. Yes, the committee might get it wrong sometimes, might be a bit over authoritative at times, could not suit everyone all the time, but they were the ones who were actually putting in the time, discussing the options, trying to make the organisation the best it could be. While the 'experts' propped up the bar and whinged, then went home till next time.

    While you may be right about some of the "complainers" as you call them you are ignoring the fact that a significant minority have contributed to this site in no small manner. This complete and utter small mindedness and disregard for the community that has permeated the thinking of the current moderators, the admins and the management of this site actually betrays the work that those who contributed before them put in and in a lot of cases has dismantled what they put in place.

    Now no one is saying they are against progress or modernisation but shutting down the communities ability to provide open feedback is absolutely wrong and goes against the site I was a member of from inception and that I contributed to moderating and category moderating for over ten years!


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    #156
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    gandalf wrote: »
    While you may be right about some of the "complainers" as you call them you are ignoring the fact that a significant minority have contributed to this site in no small manner. This complete and utter small mindedness and disregard for the community that has permeated the thinking of the current moderators, the admins and the management of this site actually betrays the work that those who contributed before them put in and in a lot of cases has dismantled what they put in place.

    Now no one is saying they are against progress or modernisation but shutting down the communities ability to provide open feedback is absolutely wrong and goes against the site I was a member of from inception and that I contributed to moderating and category moderating for over ten years!
    the site moved on the people who owned itvmade a few quid and the people that worked away for years for nothing more than a thankyou; well theybgotvtheir thankyou


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    #157
    ROAAAR
    Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭ROAAAR


    YouTube comments are where’s it’s at these days. No mods


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    #158
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    I do apologise on the committee remark....Red it wrong =)


    But I don't see why peoples opioion should be disregarded on basis of post count??.....like seriously...how lacking in substance is your point that you have to go look at someone's account and use the amount of posts they have as a means to dismiss them

    Literally definition of playing the man not the ball/attack post not poster etc

    Well ya see for me when it comes to discussing how the site works that comes from the regular members. Someone coming in with the billy big balls speeches of committees etc is one of... ah you know what I'm on about!

    I don't ever look through post counts unless playing Werewolf btw, do not see the point at all in that side of things. :P Tigger there's another Werewolf mention


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    #159
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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    #160
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    ROAAAR wrote: »
    YouTube comments are where’s it’s at these days. No mods

    +1 youbtube comments are indicitative of what you get with no moderation


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    #161
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Tiggerish


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    #162
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Vronsky wrote: »
    It's not really fair to blame moderation for the fall away on number of users since other lightly moderated Irish forums have suffered falls in users. That said boards hasn't done itself any favours and one can look to a number of decisions/issues that probably wouldn't have prevented the decline but have certainly considerably hastened it:

    *The hack of 2010
    *Request for access for soccer/politics cafe. This has effectively killed politics cafe.
    *The disaster with the poker forum.
    *Changes to feedback forum alienated a lot of long time users
    *The site redesign - the site is unusable outside of Ireland.
    * The redesign of the site categories, which added clicks and complexity to getting where you wanted to be.
    *More screen space given over to ads.

    On a more wider scale, the now thirty something's that grew up with boards have now grown up, married with families and do not have time to arse about posting anymore. Boards format is is too restrictive and moderation too heavy vs the likes of Twitter and Reddit, which has kept younger users away.

    I can echo the sentiment with having a post written and then not bothering to post it because often it's not worth it.

    What happened with the poker forum?


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    #163
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users Posts: 10,948 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Tigger wrote: »
    +1 youbtube comments are indicitative of what you get with no moderation

    Horrendous then.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #164
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Tigger wrote: »
    the site moved on the people who owned itvmade a few quid and the people that worked away for years for nothing more than a thankyou; well theybgotvtheir thankyou

    Is your space-bar on the blink!


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    #165
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    She is just a poster here, offering an opinion. I could say lumping every "mod" in together is everything that's wrong with certain peoples criticism of the site. I have no interaction with mods on this forum any more than you do, and I'm pretty sure looksee doesn't either.

    Mods sticking up for other mods :pac::pac:


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    #166
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    Horrendous then.

    well yeah
    i mean i read the comments on a few little youbtube posters inenjoy butvthe general stuff is acually hell


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    #167
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users Posts: 10,948 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Tigger wrote: »
    well yeah
    i mean i read the comments on a few little youbtube posters inenjoy butvthe general stuff is acually hell

    It isn't nice reading what a few female gamers I follow have to put up with on their channels.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #168
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    gandalf wrote: »
    Is your space-bar on the blink!

    no its fine thanks
    point is that people like you slaved away for years for the site but there was never more on offer than a thankyou
    we used to joke that the mods would get a share if the site was moneytise but it never hppened


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    #169
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    It isn't nice reading what a few female gamers I follow have to put up with on their channels.

    i can imagine
    its why moderation is important


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    #170
    Vronsky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Vronsky


    looksee wrote: »
    The really funny thing is that the small cabaal of people - the clique of complainers - who keep going on over and over about the sins and shortcomings of the site, for some reason stick around!

    There is a whole internet out there, surely they could head off and start a site that works the way they want it to? This site was started by a few interested people so many years ago (in internet terms) with no funds, no organisation, just themselves. If they could do it surely those dissatisfied with this site could do the same? You will know what pitfalls to avoid, what the people want, it should be a doddle.

    It was always the way, in any organisation, the biggest group of complainers, of people who criticised everything 'the committee' did, who carped and gossiped and did their best to break things up, were the people who never made any actual contribution to the organisation. Kinda sad really. Yes, the committee might get it wrong sometimes, might be a bit over authoritative at times, could not suit everyone all the time, but they were the ones who were actually putting in the time, discussing the options, trying to make the organisation the best it could be. While the 'experts' propped up the bar and whinged, then went home till next time.
    It's ok getting things wrong, but what is not forgivable is recognising and acting on mistakes once they become obvious.

    Two examples - the new "touch" site. Totally unusable and foisted on overseas posters. When I've been away for any length of time I've rarely posted because it's so difficult, so yeah - I stopped posting

    Example two: Politics Cafe. This was a lively forum and I used to frequently contribute to it. Rules changed and you had to ask for permission to post. Now forgive me, but I'm not asking anyone on the internet for permission to post so I don't post there. I'm not alone in thinking this either - so it's gone from a busy forum to a zombie one overnight.


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    #171
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Aidric wrote: »
    Very erudite for a new joiner with 5 posts.

    Just because somebody a new account and they are saying something negative doesn't mean they are a new user or a bad poster. How many accounts did posters like dudess? (Think that's right anyway) run through back in the day


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    #172
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    Just because somebody a new account and they are saying something negative doesn't mean they are a new user or a bad poster. How many accounts did posters like dudess? (Think that's right anyway) run through back in the day

    5?


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    #173
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gandalf wrote: »
    While you may be right about some of the "complainers" as you call them you are ignoring the fact that a significant minority have contributed to this site in no small manner. This complete and utter small mindedness and disregard for the community that has permeated the thinking of the current moderators, the admins and the management of this site actually betrays the work that those who contributed before them put in and in a lot of cases has dismantled what they put in place.

    Now no one is saying they are against progress or modernisation but shutting down the communities ability to provide open feedback is absolutely wrong and goes against the site I was a member of from inception and that I contributed to moderating and category moderating for over ten years!

    Not sure of the background to this post but I will say that certain fora have been notorious for being cliquish. If Boards is attempting to break that up, then that is a positive. In the Politics forum, for instance, by having partisan moderating - i.e. deeply anti-republican & leftwing/pro-Fine Gael & rightwing - from all (OK, a token leftwing republican was appointed a mod about two years ago, but didn't last) the mods what seems to be permanent damage to its ability to attract people with opposing views has happened. It's a mere echo chamber now - or at least was the last time I looked a few years ago. The History forum is not much better. I don't expect any improvement in moderating as the only solace the mods get is the power buzz. Fair enough, let them at it but with that quid pro quo the environment in such fora is very toxic so loads of people stay away.


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    #174
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    In all seriousness I do understand why Boards.ie has to shut down conversation sometimes to cover their own backs and make sure they don't get sued for something posted on here or something. Reddit is a much bigger site with a much bigger backing financially but the shutting down of conversation does hurt the site sometimes.

    Boards is great for some things that Reddit isn't as good for, for example the Waterford City forum is great for local news, MMA forum on here is a great little community (MMA community on reddit is way to big). I hope the site does get a new generation of users and keeps going because Boards.ie is a great resource for Irish people imo. Does the UK have a similar site?

    Boards has been great to me over the years, the community has,helped me gain information about colleges, jobs, schools, parenting, travelling and much more. The community is great :)


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    #175
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Find myself posting less and less, hard to say exactly why its the repetitiveness of a lot of it, someone post something about welfare que outrage vitriol and astounding nastiness and if said article on welfare is about a woman its added vulgar nastiness. Thant's just one example.

    Be interesting to see a bit of research on how often the same topics come up on boards.


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    #176
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Vronsky wrote: »
    It's not really fair to blame moderation for the fall away on number of users since other lightly moderated Irish forums have suffered falls in users. That said boards hasn't done itself any favours and one can look to a number of decisions/issues that probably wouldn't have prevented the decline but have certainly considerably hastened it:

    *The hack of 2010
    *Request for access for soccer/politics cafe. This has effectively killed politics cafe.
    *The disaster with the poker forum.
    *Changes to feedback forum alienated a lot of long time users
    *The site redesign - the site is unusable outside of Ireland.
    * The redesign of the site categories, which added clicks and complexity to getting where you wanted to be.
    *More screen space given over to ads.

    On a more wider scale, the now thirty something's that grew up with boards have now grown up, married with families and do not have time to arse about posting anymore. Boards format is is too restrictive and moderation too heavy vs the likes of Twitter and Reddit, which has kept younger users away.

    I can echo the sentiment with having a post written and then not bothering to post it because often it's not worth it.

    1. What has a hack of nearly 8 years ago got to do with Boards now?
    2. Soccer is perfect the way it is. They opened it up for the last Euros and it became an unintelligible mess of idiots drooling about random stuff. It's bad enough with the Utd/Liverpool sh1te already... and you want it opened to the masses? Politics café... meh. Dunno much about it but it seems so many bots re: parties are being set up to soapbox and stifle proper debate so...
    3. No idea what you're on about re: poker.
    4. Feedback is a genuine gripe. BUT. If I recall a mass of moaners continued to b1tch and whine about the same issues... Over. And Over. And Over again. Fighting with mods and admins. Calling anyone who didn't agree with their idea of a utopia wrong and shouting them down. Any normal feedback thread was derailed by said group. You want my personal opinion? I would have sitebanned the lot of the whingers and the place would have been fine.
    5 and 6. You do know we have a 'My Forums' link right? Follow the forum, go to top right hand corner... one click involved. Site redesign I do agree with tbf....responsive site is a quivering pile of sh1te.
    7. Ads are everywhere, not exclusive to Boards. Every second post on Facebook and Twitter is some business selling their wares. Not an issue for me cos it's done everywhere.


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    #177
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    The Pheasant2 wrote: »
    The least they could do is sort out the bloody search function
    Keira Thankful Target wrote: »
    Ok that was less than 60 seconds to ban a re-reg.

    Impressive, but we're waiting on a functional search function for how long now?

    Prioritise a bit lads.

    I find the search function very easy to use, thorough and useful and I’m no techy. What’s people’s issue with it?

    The odd time it stops working. Is that what people are referring to? Yeah, that’s annoying but when it works, which is 99% of the time, it’s good.


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    #178
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    ROAAAR wrote: »
    YouTube comments are where’s it’s at these days. No mods

    Well there is in so far as the owner of the channel can pick and choose what they want posted.

    I've one particular clip up which is generating a lot of discussion, as soon as it gets trolled or someone advocates domestic violence their comments and deleted and the user blocked from my channel.


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    #179
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not sure of the background to this post but I will say that certain fora have been notorious for being cliquish. If Boards is attempting to break that up, then that is a positive. In the Politics forum, for instance, by having partisan moderating - i.e. deeply anti-republican & leftwing/pro-Fine Gael & rightwing - from all (OK, a token leftwing republican was appointed a mod about two years ago, but didn't last) the mods what seems to be permanent damage to its ability to attract people with opposing views has happened. It's a mere echo chamber now - or at least was the last time I looked a few years ago. The History forum is not much better. I don't expect any improvement in moderating as the only solace the mods get is the power buzz. Fair enough, let them at it but with that quid pro quo the environment in such fora is very toxic so loads of people stay away.

    I asked this before and didn't get an answer. Where is cliquish on boards? I haven't come across it at all


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    #180
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    I find the search function very easy to use and thorough and I’m no techy. What’s people’s issue with it?

    It is singularly the worse search engine of any forum I use.

    In fact if I want to search for something on boards.ie I use google, I just couldn't be arsed trying to search boards.ie anymore.


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    #181
    Tefral
    Registered Users Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Problem is in my mind: the vast majority of the forums are echo chambers.


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