WW XXI: Christmas Chaos!

Holly WW wrote:

But lets not give phil a pass here is my point, keep an open mind.

It's gonna be a quick analysis given he only has 2 posts but that number in itself is probably damning.

Angus WW wrote: »

Don't think they need to right now tbh. Hopefully they can drive conversation without exposing themselves.

At this stage, the priest would know three things...
1. Are there any roled goodies dead; I think the village nor the wolves need to know that info on day one.
2. Are there any rolled baddies dead; again, don't think we need to know that just yet
3. Are there any NRVs dead? We get nothing from that yet either.

So, personally, if I'm the priest, I'd lay low till at least post-lynch.

Id probably lay low till just before munch tomorrow and post everything a min before, roll the dice on not getting munched then have bg protection for the next munch. Coming out post lynch means bg has to protect them tomorrow and we lose them on day 4. A slight risk we may lose them on day 3 but worth the chance. We could go for the Mogi tonight and that reduces the risk but I'm reluctant to take the focus off the wolves at this point.

A quick reminder...

Tegan - Isla, Steve, Frank, Phil
Conor - Nigel, Gertrude, Winifred, Mary

Those are the people still alive who voted for the top two candidates for a lynch last night, one of whom got hit this morning.

Personal thoughts, there's at least one wolf in there; be it the SK who opted to kill someone they hoped would get munched last night, or a Gremlin who was trying to hide in the crowd.

Personally, I don't buy Frank is bad, and I feel Nigel is trying to help the village (not clearing him, but feel that he's acting in a way I'm ok with for now).

Post count of the those eight.

Isla WW 68
Nigel WW 59
Steve WW 36
Frank WW 35
Winifred WW 8
Gertrude WW 8
Mary WW 6
Phil WW 2

I mentioned Steve went very, very quiet last night when I started talking about a duo working together, and he's stayed very quiet since then imo. Connor was after Winny and Phil from that list too. I've no read on Gertrude or Mary, and am hoping that wolves aren't just not posting, cause that defeats the point of what we're doing here.

My FFA today, so far, is likely going to be Steve, Winny and Phil, though Isla is someone I'm curious by too.

I was MIA for most of yesterday because I was off work, I can defo be here more today as I'll be at my computer all day.

The below stood our to me first thing this morning as a really prepared post, and while it's not a short post, it doesn't really say anything, just sort of states the obvious

Isla WW wrote: »

Morning all in the Village.

Hopefully we will find more concrete things to work on today, especially post Munch if we survive it. I don't think it would shock many that on day 1 it did not seem we had much to go on. In fact I remember one point when the post count list was posted thinking that the top 5 (which still included Wendy at that point) posters had all come under suspicion at some point and appeared in peoples FFAs (or been killed). I mean we are encouraged to talk a lot of thread as Wolves might show themselves up but I even ended up on one or two peoples FFAs despite nobody saying I did anything wolfy because I did just this (talked a lot without anything substantial to say).

We can't be certain who Tegan was unless our ghost of Christmas past comes out but unless it was someone like Spike or one of the 2 man team wolves I don't think that should happen and at worst we should just think we got rid of someone who had been acting odd. As much as I can understand the ideas some have of doing something odd to test peoples reactions etc, realise that we have a group here that will pounce on you for odd activity and or for accusing people.

Orla WW wrote: »

I was MIA for most of yesterday because I was off work, I can defo be here more today as I'll be at my computer all day.

The below stood our to me first thing this morning as a really prepared post, and while it's not a short post, it doesn't really say anything, just sort of states the obvious

I agree with this - while Isla has posted 69 times, i have not seen much value in her posts; and there have been 2 instances at least that can be viewed as attempted pocketing of Conor and myself.

She writes long posts with no real point to any of them, and doesnt follow through on her convictions.

As i said yesterday, either a crap villager or a wolf.

Just to be clear, the Phil suspicion is because of low posting and just jumping on top of the FFA right? there's nothing else (I guess how could there be, he's only posted twice)

Phil WW wrote: »

Whoever the last incarnation of phil was... why only 15 posts per page?!

I am beginning to feel festive.

Phil WW wrote: »

Best Christmas film of our time

Phils only two posts. In both he makes seasonal references, maybe not a lot to read into it, but the 15 posts per page thing makes me think its not his first rodeo in which case the extremely low posting is slightly more suspicious. He posted once a day so he should be along soon with his daily post

Conor's gut and the fact Conor implicated him too.

Just to clarify, though I think it was already, the SK had their first kill today, and was Merv, don't see any reason why they would have missed a kill yesterday. If the BG protected someone yesterday I think a failed kill would have been announced. So can see who kills tomorrow if there is a flavor in the kill post.

The serial Killers are a team, however they are separated and take alternate kills each night, starting with Marv- i.e they will kill every night. They don’t know each other and have separate rooms. If one dies the other picks up their kills

Nigel WW wrote: »

All of Gerties posts, nothing really in there in the way of contribution either. Tbh only one post is not filler

I think Gertie is new, making a better job of looking it than Tegan anyways.

Gertie, if you're about, speak up! Who are you suss of and why?

Liam WW wrote: »

I think Gertie is new, making a better job of looking it than Tegan anyways.

Gertie, if you're about, speak up! Who are you suss of and why?

Same for Desmond, Mary and Abigail, who hasn't posted once yet.

Orla WW wrote: »

Mods

is the 5 post min a hard and fast thing?

I'm just wondering should we waste a lynch on philo if there's a possibility that he'll be modkilled for non participation

It's not, they said "try" it would be more definitive if they were going to modkill over it.

Voting is generally seen as the bare minimum level of participation anyways

As there doesn't seem to be any tasks at play, it's difficult to find anything remotely concrete on anyone at the moment. I feel I can spot goodies easier than baddies.

Angus WW wrote: »

I feel there's three tiers at the moment.

People posting a lot, getting involved, etc
People posting enough to get by
People barely posting at all.

I'm not massively worried about the third tier. Phil, Mary, etc might be wolves but they aren't influencing discussions at all right now. So they might be bad, but if they aren't impacting things, then I feel we need to let them contribute more before we waste lunches on them.

The top tier are more likely to hang themselves eventually.

It's the middle tier though that worries me.

My inclinations at the moment would be to focus on the middle of the pack, use peeks on the more active posters, and not worry bout the ones who might be modkilled yet.

Isla, for instance, is my prime candidate for a peak tonight

No one is having my lunch

Barbara WW wrote: »

As there doesn't seem to be any tasks at play, it's difficult to find anything remotely concrete on anyone at the moment. I feel I can spot goodies easier than baddies.

I felt the jokes before ydays munch was odd

Happened again today too