Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

PauloMN · 24-11-2017 10:57PM

Not much PSG about The Rangers tonight, lads!

Serious question, how long will the fans put up with the current situation?

Berserker · 29-11-2017 08:53PM

1-0 against the sheep. Tav from the spot after 6 mins. Edit 2-0 Pena.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-11-2017 10:30PM

3-0 I believe and Christie sent off. Relying on updates as I am in the Mater getting new wires in my back

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-11-2017 10:30PM

3-0 I believe and Christie sent off. Relying on updates as I am in the Mater getting new wires in my back

Berserker · 29-11-2017 10:34PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

3-0 I believe and Christie sent off. Relying on updates as I am in the Mater getting new wires in my back

Game over and it finished 3-0. Christie was sent off as you said. Best we've played in a long time. Hope things go well in the hospital for you.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 29-11-2017 10:46PM

Berserker wrote: »

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Game over and it finished 3-0. Christie was sent off as you said. Best we've played in a long time. Hope things go well in the hospital for you.

Going well mate op done and dusted hopefully home tomorrow

Jelle1880 · 01-12-2017 05:09PM

That was a great performance. More of the same this weekend please.

Berserker · 03-12-2017 02:00PM

Started well today. 0-1 from Wilson. Lovely header. Watched the pre-match and McInnes forgot his team. Never seen that before. Disgraceful dive by Windass at the start of the game. Got a yellow for it and he deserved it.

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-12-2017 02:08PM

Berserker wrote: »

Watched the pre-match and McInnes forgot his team. Never seen that before

Clearly McInnes has his mind on other things and looks like the players have as well

TheCitizen · 03-12-2017 02:13PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Clearly McInnes has his mind on other things and looks like the players have as well

There's something not right about the manager of a team being left in charge of two games against the club he's supposed to go to before he goes to them. Nothing new there.

Berserker · 03-12-2017 02:52PM

Windass 0-2. Best bit of football this half. Jack sent off just before that. Card will will be rescinded hopefully. 1-2 FT.

Jelle1880 · 03-12-2017 04:22PM

Fantastic performance again.

Berserker · 03-12-2017 05:10PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Fantastic performance again.

Got to hand it to Murty. He's done well this week. Seems to be able to get the team firing for these games but can't do the same for games against the so called lesser teams.

FCIM · 04-12-2017 12:29PM

This is not intended to be offensive but the Irish, particularly Southern, Rangers fan is a phenomenon which raises my curiosity. Why, given that Rangers had a negative relationship with most of Ireland for a large part of its history, which seems to be slowly changing in terms of its support and has changed in terms of the club, did you come to support Rangers?

Also, if you have been to Ibrox, particularly if you have a noticeable Southern accent, how did you find the experience?

I have no axe to grind as I don't follow Scottish football so I mean absolutely no offence and am just asking out of interest.

LiamoSail · 04-12-2017 01:47PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

There's something not right about the manager of a team being left in charge of two games against the club he's supposed to go to before he goes to them. Nothing new there.

That not really his fault though. Only way to avoid it would be to include managers in transfer windows and do away with the winter window.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 04-12-2017 02:15PM

FCIM wrote: »

This is not intended to be offensive but the Irish, particularly Southern, Rangers fan is a phenomenon which raises my curiosity. Why, given that Rangers had a negative relationship with most of Ireland for a large part of its history, which seems to be slowly changing in terms of its support and has changed in terms of the club, did you come to support Rangers?

Also, if you have been to Ibrox, particularly if you have a noticeable Southern accent, how did you find the experience?

I have no axe to grind as I don't follow Scottish football so I mean absolutely no offence and am just asking out of interest.

Mate I will give you an answer later I did start but I can guarantee arguments so when I do I will reply by PM

Ragnar Lothbrok · 04-12-2017 02:19PM

FCIM wrote: »

This is not intended to be offensive but the Irish, particularly Southern, Rangers fan is a phenomenon which raises my curiosity. Why, given that Rangers had a negative relationship with most of Ireland for a large part of its history, which seems to be slowly changing in terms of its support and has changed in terms of the club, did you come to support Rangers?

Also, if you have been to Ibrox, particularly if you have a noticeable Southern accent, how did you find the experience?

I have no axe to grind as I don't follow Scottish football so I mean absolutely no offence and am just asking out of interest.

I've often wondered about this myself. I've always imagined that Rangers fans here fall into two categories. One, they are Scottish/Northern Irish but living here, or two, they might be from the Border counties in the Republic but from a Protestant background.

Then again, I will never forget that Scottish-born Asian (Pakistani or Indian, I think) bloke who supported Rangers and was a member of some far-right BNP type group, so I suppose some Rangers fans in Ireland could indeed be Irish Catholics

FCIM · 04-12-2017 02:21PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Mate I will give you an answer later I did start but I can guarantee arguments so when I do I will reply by PM

Thanks, I'll look forward to your pm.

Jelle1880 · 04-12-2017 02:41PM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

I've often wondered about this myself. I've always imagined that Rangers fans here fall into two categories. One, they are Scottish/Northern Irish but living here, or two, they might be from the Border counties in the Republic but from a Protestant background.

Then again, I will never forget that Scottish-born Asian (Pakistani or Indian, I think) bloke who supported Rangers and was a member of some far-right BNP type group, so I suppose some Rangers fans in Ireland could indeed be Irish Catholics

EDL Abdul.

Guy has mental issues though. At the start he was just this weird funny guy that was at Rangers games, now it's clear he has psychological problems.

inb4 'Well yeah he supports Rangers'

LiamoSail · 04-12-2017 02:45PM

FCIM wrote: »

This is not intended to be offensive but the Irish, particularly Southern, Rangers fan is a phenomenon which raises my curiosity. Why, given that Rangers had a negative relationship with most of Ireland for a large part of its history, which seems to be slowly changing in terms of its support and has changed in terms of the club, did you come to support Rangers?

Also, if you have been to Ibrox, particularly if you have a noticeable Southern accent, how did you find the experience?

I have no axe to grind as I don't follow Scottish football so I mean absolutely no offence and am just asking out of interest.

Particulatly in Ireland, a club's international standing and success is a far bigger draw than their culture. How can an Irish fan really relate to Liverpool, Chelsea or United without a tangible connection to these areas? How can an Irish fan really hate United and love Liverpool when from an Irish perspective, there's nothing substantial to differentiate the clubs.

Along these lines it's easy to understand why someone who doesn't agree with anti-Irish narrative of the Rangers fans can separate this from their support of the football team

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 04-12-2017 02:50PM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

I've often wondered about this myself. I've always imagined that Rangers fans here fall into two categories. One, they are Scottish/Northern Irish but living here, or two, they might be from the Border counties in the Republic but from a Protestant background.

Then again, I will never forget that Scottish-born Asian (Pakistani or Indian, I think) bloke who supported Rangers and was a member of some far-right BNP type group, so I suppose some Rangers fans in Ireland could indeed be Irish Catholics

Theres more RC Irish Rangers fans than you could possibly comprehend

FCIM · 04-12-2017 03:08PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Particulatly in Ireland, a club's international standing and success is a far bigger draw than their culture. How can an Irish fan really relate to Liverpool, Chelsea or United without a tangible connection to these areas? How can an Irish fan really hate United and love Liverpool when from an Irish perspective, there's nothing substantial to differentiate the clubs.

Along these lines it's easy to understand why someone who doesn't agree with anti-Irish narrative of the Rangers fans can separate this from their support of the football team

Don't agree with the first part at all. It's perfectly possible for someone to love and hate a club from a different country for all number of reasons.

FCIM · 04-12-2017 03:10PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Theres more RC Irish Rangers fans than you could possibly comprehend

That's the bit I don't understand. For a lot of them they are supporting a club they couldn't have played for (age dependant) even if they had been good.

LiamoSail · 04-12-2017 03:15PM

FCIM wrote: »

Don't agree with the first part at all. It's perfectly possible for someone to love and hate a club from a different country for all number of reasons.

Yes I agree, my point is that generally there's no tangible reasons. Someone might hate Rangers/Celtc/Lazio/St Pauli etc for cultural or political reasons, but United, Liverpool, Arsenal? It's generally jealously or an adopted rivalry based on loyalty to an organisation you have no real connection with. The reality is that there's little logical rationale for a grudge held by your average Dublin punter against Man United or Liverpool

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 04-12-2017 03:18PM

FCIM wrote: »

That's the bit I don't understand. For a lot of them they are supporting a club they couldn't have played for (age dependant) even if they had been good.

They couldn't see if you look at the history even during the dark times of the unwritten rule RC's were signed and did play. No one should forget these times but the club has moved on in many major ways has have the support. Yes we have a hard core bunch of morons other clubs have them as well.

I now await the Aye but you lot have more than us argument :rolleyes:

FCIM · 04-12-2017 03:20PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

They couldn't see if you look at the history even during the dark times of the unwritten rule RC's were signed and did play. No one should forget these times but the club has moved on in many major ways has have the support. Yes we have a hard core bunch of morons other clubs have them as well.

I now await the Aye but you lot have more than us argument :rolleyes:

Are there any examples before Maurice Johnston?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 04-12-2017 03:32PM

FCIM wrote: »

Are there any examples before Maurice Johnston?

Well dont think this is definitive but heres some.

Laurie Blyth (1951–1952), Don Kitchenbrand (1955–1956), Hugh O'Neill (1976), John Spencer (1985–1992)

I would like to point out that the unwritten rule did not come into play until 1935 and yes it was in place far to long.

FCIM · 04-12-2017 03:41PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Well dont think this is definitive but heres some.

Laurie Blyth (1951–1952), Don Kitchenbrand (1955–1956), Hugh O'Neill (1976), John Spencer (1985–1992)

I would like to point out that the unwritten rule did not come into play until 1935 and yes it was in place far to long.

Had they just slipped through the net and why was Maurice Johnston termed as the first Catholic where there were others?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 04-12-2017 03:52PM

FCIM wrote: »

Had they just slipped through the net and why was Maurice Johnston termed as the first Catholic where there were others?

No they didn't slip through the net just no fuss was made The reason MoJo was classed as the first is because the media generally made a backside of it. The biggest bit about the whole MoJo affair was the fact he was known to be a Celtic fan

Berserker · 04-12-2017 07:39PM

FCIM wrote: »

Also, if you have been to Ibrox, particularly if you have a noticeable Southern accent, how did you find the experience?

I have a southern Irish/London accent, more the former at this stage. I have been to Ibrox on countless occasions throughout the years and I have been to a significant number of European away games also. I've never had an issue, hand on heart. I am a member of a supporters group in London and the English lads get the odd comment, England v Scotland stuff but nothing over the top. There is an active supporters club here in Dublin, called Dublin Loyal, fyi.

Irish people are strange when it comes to football clubs. Liverpool FC have strong Protestant links, the club was founded by an Orangeman, the home end is called the KOP (King Over Pope), yet people here support them avidly.

Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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