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The robot that really could take your job.

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  • #2
    Jayop
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105294308&postcount=7467
    If robots this agile become mass produced they'll start taking the jobs that only menial workers can do, like loading bins into the bin lorry to be emptied or wiping old people's arses.

    They'll be no jobs left, who is going to earn the money to pay for it all?????

    The same people who earn the vast majority of the money now but they'll have to be taxed accordingly. Vast wealth is being and will be generated from automation and it will lead to enormous unemployment. Universal Basic Income needs to be phased in now, immediately, and as this situation gets worse it needs to be increased so people who want to work but are unable to can lead a good standard of life.

    One good thing about this is it will give the arts a huge bump as you will have motivated talented people sitting around with nothing to do.


  • #3
    Mint Sauce
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105294308&postcount=7467
    If robots this agile become mass produced they'll start taking the jobs that only menial workers can do, like loading bins into the bin lorry to be emptied or wiping old people's arses.

    They'll be no jobs left, who is going to earn the money to pay for it all?????

    ...wiping old people's arses!

    Will that same robot comfort them in their dying days, care for them and their families, etc etc.

    There are some jobs that robots can't do, and cant replicate or replace human emotion.


  • #4
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    ...wiping old people's arses!

    Will that same robot comfort them in their dying days, care for them and their families, etc etc.

    There are some jobs that robots can't do, and cant replicate or replace human emotion.

    Wanna bet? AI will be able to easily replicate that in a short space of time.


  • #5
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    https://youtu.be/eIRQQjVYQ78?t=9


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
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    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    ...wiping old people's arses!

    Will that same robot comfort them in their dying days, care for them and their families, etc etc.

    There are some jobs that robots can't do, and cant replicate or replace human emotion.
    Care home owners don't really care about that, if the robots are cheaper to run than the wage bill, then it's no contest.


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  • #7
    Jayop
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    Should every company that replaces a human with a robot have to pay a stipend into the state every year? Again if a scheme like that was going to be done it would have to be done double quick.

    edit: Stipend's probably the wrong word but you get my meaning.


  • #8
    CalamariFritti
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    Wait til he comes after you with a gun in his hand :eek:

    On a serious note. We'll just do away with money. We let the robots do stuff and go playing golf all week,


  • #9
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,038 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    we're Irish

    we be fine

    won't happen here

    EVENFLOW



  • #10
    Jayop
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    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Wait til he comes after you with a gun in his hand :eek:

    On a serious note. We'll just do away with money. We let the robots do stuff and go playing golf all week,

    Like every great industrial revolution this will only serve to make the gap between the rich and poor even greater.


  • #11
    eeguy
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    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    ...wiping old people's arses!

    Will that same robot comfort them in their dying days, care for them and their families, etc etc.

    There are some jobs that robots can't do, and cant replicate or replace human emotion.

    Definitely. There are plenty of jobs that people wont accept robots doing.

    We basically have full employment in most western countries, despite seven decades of increasing automation.

    I think the next 20 years will be interesting as machine learning and AI take the fore.

    Yesterday Tesla showcased their new electric truck, with autopilot as standard. Could wipe out hundreds of thousands of haulage jobs with 10 years.


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  • #12
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I will be at an age when they do arrive that I can clatter them with my walking stick


  • #13
    biko
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    But but... my job isn't jumping?


  • #14
    Mint Sauce
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Care home owners don't really care about that, if the robots are cheaper to run than the wage bill, then it's no contest.

    Families, HIQA, and the HSE might though


  • #15
    Riddle101
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    Well I for one welcome our new robotic overlords.


  • #16
    Seth Brundle
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Should every company that replaces a human with a robot have to pay a stipend into the state every year? Again if a scheme like that was going to be done it would have to be done double quick.

    edit: Stipend's probably the wrong word but you get my meaning.
    It's not that simple. A robot might be able to replace some tasks but it will be a long time before they can replace a human entirely.
    Look at any company now: I'm some shape or form they have automated processes that were once manual.
    Even a kitchen food processor is replacing a once manual task.

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  • #17
    Floki
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    I for one welcome the day that robots will do all my farmwork so I can sit on the couch and watch d'telly.
    Be great to order my team of robots off to their days work and send some to drive tractors, milk cows and feed and bed the cattle without putting myself in harm's way.

    Bring it on I say. Can't really see it happening in the next 30 years though.
    Hopefully though.
    Although knowing mankind they'll be used for military purposes first and then they'll be banned before making it down to agricultural use.


  • #18
    eeguy
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    Floki wrote: »
    I for one welcome the day that robots will do all my farmwork so I can sit on the couch and watch d'telly.
    Be great to order my team of robots off to their days work and send some to drive tractors, milk cows and feed and bed the cattle without putting myself in harm's way.

    Bring it on I say. Can't really see it happening in the next 30 years though.
    Hopefully though.
    Although knowing mankind they'll be used for military purposes first and then they'll be banned before making it down to agricultural use.

    Well autonomous tractors and harvesters exist in concept.
    Robotic milkers already exist. Suppose its not too difficult to automate most things in a farm. You just need lots of cash and high reliability.

    There's actually millions to be made in automated farming.


  • #19
    The_Valeyard
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    We need these guys. Can do all the jobs for us and nothing could possibly go wrong.


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  • #20
    Floki
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    eeguy wrote: »
    Well autonomous tractors and harvesters exist in concept.
    Robotic milkers already exist. Suppose its not too difficult to automate most things in a farm. You just need lots of cash and high reliability.

    There's actually millions to be made in automated farming.

    It would be way cooler though to see "this guy" stepping into a conventional tractor and being able to operate it the same as a human.:D


  • #21
    Atoms for Peace
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    "The truth is that many of the qualities we admire in human beings can only function in opposition to some kind of disaster, pain, or difficulty; but the tendency of mechanical progress is to eliminate disaster, pain, and difficulty."
    -George Orwell


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  • #22
    RobbingBandit
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    He'd need to be one hell of a robot.


  • #23
    Jayop
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    kbannon wrote: »
    It's not that simple. A robot might be able to replace some tasks but it will be a long time before they can replace a human entirely.
    Look at any company now: I'm some shape or form they have automated processes that were once manual.
    Even a kitchen food processor is replacing a once manual task.

    Of course they can never replace all jobs, however certain industries will be completely gone soon. Take the OP's example of bin lorries. You'll have an automated lorry being driven by no-one and a robot pulling the bin into it if that task still needs to be done. Just driving jobs alone that are certain in my opinion to be a thing of the past will be devastating to the jobs market.


  • #24
    Mint Sauce
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Of course they can never replace all jobs, however certain industries will be completely gone soon. Take the OP's example of bin lorries. You'll have an automated lorry being driven by no-one and a robot pulling the bin into it if that task still needs to be done. Just driving jobs alone that are certain in my opinion to be a thing of the past will be devastating to the jobs market.

    Lets just hope they are better than some of the bin lorry drivers around here. Suppose it does mean doing away with that Xmas tip though.


  • #25
    donegaLroad
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    robots will be able to perform head transplant surgery pretty soon.


  • #26
    RustyNut
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    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    ...wiping old people's arses!

    Will that same robot comfort them in their dying days, care for them and their families, etc etc.

    I'd say it's only a matter of time, and not too much time either.


  • #27
    fin12
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    They are opening a shop in cork that has no staff in it whatsoever, I think you purchase and pay for your things online and scan them through when leaving the shop. With self service checkouts, a lot of retail jobs in the future will be lost.


  • #28
    Ulysses Gaze
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    eeguy wrote: »
    Definitely. There are plenty of jobs that people wont accept robots doing.

    We basically have full employment in most western countries, despite seven decades of increasing automation.

    I think the next 20 years will be interesting as machine learning and AI take the fore.

    Yesterday Tesla showcased their new electric truck, with autopilot as standard. Could wipe out hundreds of thousands of haulage jobs with 10 years.

    And Jaguar Landrover are currently testing driverless cars in Coventry.

    Taxi Drivers will be gone in 20 years. Particularly when you read this bit
    A study by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the industry trade body, has calculated that 320,000 British jobs could be created by 2030 if the UK establishes itself as a leader in the field.The Government announced policies in last year’s Queen’s Speech that were aimed at minimising red tape for self-driving cars.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/11/17/driverless-cars-british-roads-jaguar-land-rover-moves-ahead/


  • #29
    Archeron
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    "sleep little dumpling, I am your mother now."
    -Nannybot 4000


  • #30
    eeguy
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    And Jaguar Landrover are currently testing driverless cars in Coventry.

    Ya, when you have quotes like this:

    Mark Rosekind, when still chief regulator of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, noted the problem with waiting for perfect cars to replace imperfect human drivers on the road.

    “We can’t stand idly by while we wait for the perfect,” Rosekind said at a symposium in 2016. “We lost 35,200 lives on our roads last year. … If we wait for perfect, we’ll be waiting for a very, very long time. How many lives might we be losing if we wait?”


    The US has almost literally paved the way for autonomous cars. Waymo revealed a few weeks ago they've been running fully autonomous cars on the road with no safety driver.


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  • #31
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Should every company that replaces a human with a robot have to pay a stipend into the state every year? Again if a scheme like that was going to be done it would have to be done double quick.

    edit: Stipend's probably the wrong word but you get my meaning.
    Should every company that offshores a job have to pay for the social welfare of the person they let go ?

    Or alternatively should companies based in this country quoting for government funded contracts be entitled to charge slightly more than foreign companies on the basis that it'll take some one off the dole ?


    At present the only back pressure for offshoring jobs is customer changing provider but when they are all doing it ??


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