All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

AstraMonti · 09-11-2017 12:26PM

SmithySeller wrote: »

The GC does add emissions!

Really? That's the first time I read this. I ordered the GC but there was no difference on the emissions on the same engine.

sReq | uTeK · 09-11-2017 12:39PM

Roll on Jan 3rd till I pick up my new 5008 GT-LINE - Metallic white

VRUUUUUUUUM

As for the reviews my sentiments exactly. Anything in this class that lets face it is being purchased for the necessity of family life that can't fit 3 seats in the middle....

I drove the skoda and the Peugeot. No comparison. The fact that I can have 3 children in the middle and still have a gargantuan boot was a no brainer. Then there was the look and feel. The ambient lighting inside the 5008 is BEAUTIFUL.

The skoda whilst okay up front felt so so cheap in middle and 3rd.

Not having to worry about fitting a pram in the back as I have a 3rd child in the final row is also a plus. I don't like the thought of choosing which child could be potentially rear ended. Not to mention any flying objects in the result of a crash.

The only thing I preferred on the skoda was the infotainment centre which didn't 'Lag ' as much but even with the Peugeot it wasn't noticeable to in anyway annoy me.

Then there is the look.... for me again hands down winner. The kodiaq from behind could be mistaken for a Seat Ateca it's just 'generic'. Inside it felt like every VW I've sat in the last 3-5 years.

Surprisingly I didn't notice the steering wheel after a few minutes.

I was all for the skoda previously but that was based on driving the active entry model. Thank goodness I went and tried the GT-LINE

SmithySeller · 09-11-2017 12:44PM

AstraMonti wrote: »

Really? That's the first time I read this. I ordered the GC but there was no difference on the emissions on the same engine.

You should be fine mate, goes from 133 to 140 (I think) on the THP, so no tax change.

drunkmonkey · 09-11-2017 12:45PM

Isn’t the emissions a bit of a moot point as they’ll probably be something in the budget next year trying to ween us off diesel.
If they change the vat rules for business and allow them to claim vat on petrol and not just diesel it’ll cause a massive switch in fleet buyers, also take needs to be rebalanced as it still favours diesel when it should be the opposite.
Can see it being brought in over 3/5 years which might have a massive impact on resale values.

nc6000 · 09-11-2017 12:50PM

I saw one of these at the weekend. It's nice looking and not as "boxy" I thought it was from the pictures I'd seen online. Way too big for my needs though.

Stallingrad · 09-11-2017 12:53PM

From the UK:

New car sales fell by 12.2 per cent in October as diesel sales dropped by nearly a third, the latest Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders figures reveal.

Worryingly, diesel sales, which have experienced a steady decline this year, fell by 29.9 per cent, the biggest hit for the sector so far in 2017. This has led to the SMMT calling for greater clarity on diesel's future from the Government.

The writing is on the wall for diesel passenger cars. I know there is a lot of uncertainty, but I'd be thinking long and hard about buying a diesel in the current environment. The only thing that would get me into a diesel now is if I was doing really huge mileage.

drunkmonkey · 09-11-2017 01:17PM

The petrol is 2k cheaper and it’d take a long time to make back that difference as there’s very little between the mpg of the 1.2 petrol and the 1.6. diesel.
0 petrol for sale on carzone and DoneDeal, yet a Peugeot salesman I was talking to said the demand in dublin is 60% petrol and 40% diesel.
It’s make me wonder are they a bit stuck with the diesel stock as they don’t seem to be shifting.

PhilX · 09-11-2017 02:36PM

Which goes back to earlier comments if you don’t want diesel which is the best petrol to go for? If 3 kids in the back plus luggage will the 1.2 struggle. Granted if you use 7 seats regularly you might want more torque but do you need it with young kids. Already upgrading to GT Line and the 1.6 pushes it even higher but will I regret it taking the 1.2..

AstraMonti · 09-11-2017 02:41PM

PhilX wrote: »

Which goes back to earlier comments if you don’t want diesel which is the best petrol to go for? If 3 kids in the back plus luggage will the 1.2 struggle. Granted if you use 7 seats regularly you might want more torque but do you need it with young kids. Already upgrading to GT Line and the 1.6 pushes it even higher but will I regret it taking the 1.2..

I don't think you will regret going for it, 1.2 is apparently a very good engine. I would have gone for 1.2 myself too if they limitations weren't there (no automatic in gt-line, no active cruise control).

drunkmonkey · 09-11-2017 02:48PM

I’ve been mulling the same thing, I’ve driven the 1.2 with 3 adults and it wasn’t left wanting so 2 adults and 3 kids is going to be about the same, add in luggage it’ll put a bit of strain but nothing the 130bhp can’t handle I think. It’s a peppy little engine felt better than the 1.6 diesel.
The 1.6 petrol, mmm I don’t know, 160bhp is perfect as it’ll be more than capable. I don’t know enough about it and the reviews aren’t out there yet. Would be my pick all things been equal.

We’re thinking the 1.2 in the GT line but maybe the 1.6 in the Allure might be a better buy if keeping it for a few years.

SmithySeller · 09-11-2017 02:53PM

PhilX wrote: »

Which goes back to earlier comments if you don’t want diesel which is the best petrol to go for? If 3 kids in the back plus luggage will the 1.2 struggle. Granted if you use 7 seats regularly you might want more torque but do you need it with young kids. Already upgrading to GT Line and the 1.6 pushes it even higher but will I regret it taking the 1.2..

Regret it, I wouldn't think so at all. The 1.2 is a beaut to drive. Problem is when you go to GT-Line they wont sell you the Auto. It's more powerful than the 1.6HDI, and lighter.
The 1.6HDI has been lugging around the older 5008 and current Grand Picasso loaded with kids for years without issue, and doesn't feel slow (although not fast either

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SmithySeller · 09-11-2017 02:59PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We’re thinking the 1.2 in the GT line but maybe the 1.6 in the Allure might be a better buy if keeping it for a few years.

If manual is acceptable. I'd go GT-Line 1.2.

PhilX · 09-11-2017 03:23PM

Have tested both 1.2 manual and auto and although the same power the manual gives you the instant feel which I like. I know you have paddles in the auto to change down if need be but am thinking in which case why not take the manual. Am testing the 1.6 THP at the weekend albeit in a 3008 and I will see how ‘instant’ that feels given it is only available in auto.

SmithySeller · 09-11-2017 03:36PM

You might let us know how you get on, didn't think there was any in the country, 1.6 that is..

drunkmonkey · 09-11-2017 04:03PM

SmithySeller wrote: »

If manual is acceptable. I'd go GT-Line 1.2.

No real interest in paying extra for the auto, my own car is auto and I would’t be without it but that’s the one doing the big milage. Have flappy paddles on mine but rarely use them.
Might take the 1.6 petrol in the manual allure though, have to see the pricing when it appears.

PhilX · 09-11-2017 07:08PM

Is there likely to be a petrol 1.6 manual? There will be a new 1.5 diesel but haven’t seen anything about a petrol.

pete6296 · 10-11-2017 07:03PM

I would be doin approx 20k kms annually. The more I follow this thread the more I am inclined to seriously consider 1.2 petrol allure above the 1.6 diesel allure. Nearly 2k cheaper and doin the maths makes sense. Am I missing something

AstraMonti · 10-11-2017 08:32PM

pete6296 wrote: »

I would be doin approx 20k kms annually. The more I follow this thread the more I am inclined to seriously consider 1.2 petrol allure above the 1.6 diesel allure. Nearly 2k cheaper and doin the maths makes sense. Am I missing something

Unless you consistently have the car loaded with 7 people and luggage I see no reason not to select the 1.2.

pete6296 · 10-11-2017 09:10PM

AstraMonti wrote:

Unless you consistently have the car loaded with 7 people and luggage I see no reason not to select the 1.2.

Majority of trips would be 15km a day school runs with 3 kids. Once a month a 200km trip to in laws. Now I just need to drive one, dealers putting me off 1.6 diesel because of mileage but I think petrol makes more sense in the long run. Better value I reckon in 3 years

drunkmonkey · 10-11-2017 09:15PM

pete6296 wrote: »

Majority of trips would be 15km a day school runs with 3 kids. Once a month a 200km trip to in laws. Now I just need to drive one, dealers putting me off 1.6 diesel because of mileage but I think petrol makes more sense in the long run. Better value I reckon in 3 years

He had no petrols to sell you

PhilX · 12-11-2017 08:35PM

SmithySeller wrote: »

You might let us know how you get on, didn't think there was any in the country, 1.6 that is..

So tested the 1.6 THP petrol in the 3008 and I have to say it was really nice. Very refined and seemed like plenty of power if needed which is my main concern about the 1.2. Having tested the 1.2 auto a week ago the main difference for me is that there was no lag on the 1.6, it reacted instantly and it had power even with a very light foot. That might be my style of driving but I just felt on the 1.2 I was having to press harder to get a move on. Others might prefer a heavier foot though that will no doubt affect fuel economy. Given I am now definitely going the GT Line trim my only other option is the 1.2 manual but I have to say this test has given me some thinking to do. For me the car is going to be possibly 8 to 10 years by which time my kids will be teenagers and we may well be carting the parents around as well. The only thing about the 1.6 is previous reliability issues already mentioned but I have to say I have quizzed 3 dealers and none of them have come across that as a major issue. This engine has also been tuned to the 3008 and 5008 specifically I am told so maybe it has had a good update.

pete6296 · 13-11-2017 08:56PM

AstraMonti wrote:

Unless you consistently have the car loaded with 7 people and luggage I see no reason not to select the 1.2.

Was at dealer today and he reckoned with my annual mileage of 20k kms diesel makes more sense. In terms of pcp only 25 euro less per month. With increased cost in petrol and l/100km it would balance itself out I reckon. Not sure what best option is at this stage.

drunkmonkey · 13-11-2017 09:35PM

pete6296 wrote: »

Was at dealer today and he reckoned with my annual mileage of 20k kms diesel makes more sense. In terms of pcp only 25 euro less per month. With increased cost in petrol and l/100km it would balance itself out I reckon. Not sure what best option is at this stage.

Real mpg is i'd say 40mpg for the petrol and about 46mpg for the diesel that's based on the same engines in the old 5008 this one is lighter so it may be better.
Either way I think your looking at doing 20km a year for 5 and a half year before you get back the cost of the 2k premium on the diesel.
What's the attitude to diesel in 5yrs is the big question and will the price difference between them hold.

Ask the dealer to write out his calculations on why you should pay 2k more, I'd love to see it.

AstraMonti · 13-11-2017 10:55PM

Average MPG for the 3008: http://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/3008-2017-138/members-average-mpg-287762/
It 'll give you an indication of what you can expect in 5008.

grogi · 14-11-2017 09:55AM

AstraMonti wrote: »

Average MPG for the 3008: http://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/3008-2017-138/members-average-mpg-287762/
It 'll give you an indication of what you can expect in 5008.

Or here: https://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/36-Peugeot/1174-5008.html?constyear_s=2017&powerunit=2

SmithySeller · 14-11-2017 04:08PM

grogi wrote: »

Or here: https://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/36-Peugeot/1174-5008.html?constyear_s=2017&powerunit=2

Interestingly if you change to a Citroen Grand Picasso and input the 1.6 THP EAT, the average is 8.59L/100km or 33mpg!

grogi · 14-11-2017 04:09PM

SmithySeller wrote: »

Interestingly if you change to a Citroen Grand Picasso and input the 1.6 THP EAT, the average is 8.59L/100km or 33mpg!

If you take the 5008 with 1.6 THP, you get average (out of two cars...) of 8.60 too... https://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/36-Peugeot/1174-5008.html?constyear_s=2017&power_s=150&powerunit=2

SmithySeller · 14-11-2017 04:14PM

And to push the boat out, you get 35mpg or 7.9 for the 3008. All sounds about right without knowing circumstances.

PhilX · 15-11-2017 05:13PM

SmithySeller wrote: »

And to push the boat out, you get 35mpg or 7.9 for the 3008. All sounds about right without knowing circumstances.

Funny how these are much the same as I get from my old Celica and my wife’s current but smaller Peugeot. Although I prefer petrol to drive economy doesn’t seem to have improved much over the years yet emissions have fallen. But then are they real emissions?

grogi · 15-11-2017 05:21PM

PhilX wrote: »

Funny how these are much the same as I get from my old Celica and my wife’s current but smaller Peugeot. Although I prefer petrol to drive economy doesn’t seem to have improved much over the years yet emissions have fallen. But then are they real emissions?

Did you notice a slight size difference between the Celica and 5008?!

Official emission figures are different, but real world CO₂ will be the same - it is directly related to fuel economy. But there is much more to emission than CO₂...

All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

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