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Chasing the sub 50 10k - for what seems like forever

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Stupid iron low again . I mean seriously , I need to chew iron bars at this stage . I'm not anemic just low iron stores - again . I take daily heavy duty supplements but every time I up the mileage the iron levels go down . Two weeks to prop them up.

    Best sandbagger ever wha??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Bluesquare wrote: »
    Stupid iron low again . I mean seriously , I need to chew iron bars at this stage . I'm not anemic just low iron stores - again . I take daily heavy duty supplements but every time I up the mileage the iron levels go down . Two weeks to prop them up.

    Best sandbagger ever wha??

    Is the low iron contributing to all the aches too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    annapr wrote: »
    Is the low iron contributing to all the aches too?

    It did cross my mind . Makes sense really . Good job I'm so self obsessed I hop down to doctors at any slight change in energy . Hopefully I've caught it on time.

    Had a quick look at my km count :

    July: 124k
    August:168k
    Sept: 175 km

    The last time I got my bloods tested was June .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Sorry to hear this, it's so frustrating! I have the same problem so definitely sympathise! Do you just have to take more to up your stores so, or do they suggest anything else? Mainlining beef juice perhaps? [insert vomit emoji]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Same problem here ladies, low ferritin levels. I've really uncreased my beef/steak intake along with the supplement. I'm not really a red meat lover at all. The joys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    I am a complete carnivore. I think my caffeine/calcium intake affects absorbation.

    I take 325 mg of ferrograd c everyday and now have to double the dose for a month . Every single time I reach a peak of fitness - bang iron is low !

    I did read that some runners are just unfortunate to loose an abundance through their gut when it's doing all that jiggling and through soles of feet and skin.

    I'm sure I should eat liver but hey I don't love running that much

    Iron also does weird stuff with a thyroid issue - so my guess is the gp is not worried - although I may have to get some uncomfortable tests if it doesn't go back up in a month .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    I was feeling very sorry for myself last night but over it now .

    Run didn't go as planned . Firstly I have lost my charging clip so was watchless !!! Imagine ! The initial 3k was nasty - I was way behind the pack which was disappointing as had taken pole position for the last month or so (average 5:07) .

    Slowed down for break and stomach shouted loudly for an emergency trip to the local casino . The gang started into their second block of 3k and I wandered off for a gamble .

    Once I hit the jackpot I jogged slowly back to meet them then ran the last 500m @ 4:50 or so .

    Then well rested took on the final 3k in 4:55. Maintained effort enough to stay with the pack but then I was more rested then them.

    I think I peaked two weeks ago and now the lack of iron in my body is making me good prey for the fairies.

    I needed to pull it together - I have this . No unnecessary trips to fairy land needed .

    I was thinking of trying a park run at race pace on Saturday but not sure if this will help or hinder me .

    I am fit , I am strong , I can run at a 4:59 min k all day long ...,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Of course you can!

    What does the plan say for this weekend? Thinking of doing the parkrun at 10k pace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    annapr wrote: »
    Of course you can!

    What does the plan say for this weekend? Thinking of doing the parkrun at 10k pace?

    It does say that for sure !! The genius that wrote the plan didn't do the last weekend and taper, it got as far as the last McMillan thingy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Low ferritin here too. The doctor thought I was stone mad when I mentioned that runners are prone to anaemia.

    Not long now till your goal race. Hope the parkrun and taper go well!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I take Spatone. I'm 39 male only ran my first 10k last summer.

    It's liquid form I have two sachets every morning with 10ml of Artic Med in real orange juice.

    Works for me.

    5k = 21.29
    10k = 44.49
    10mile = 1:17
    HM = 1:43
    M = 3:58

    Obviously the podium is quite safe.

    Ran a HM last Sunday, have a 10k this Sunday and a full marathon next Sunday week and i will be pissed if I am not between 3:45 and 3:50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    I take Spatone. I'm 39 male only ran my first 10k last summer.

    It's liquid form I have two sachets every morning with 10ml of Artic Med in real orange juice.

    Works for me.

    5k = 21.29
    10k = 44.49
    10mile = 1:17
    HM = 1:43
    M = 3:58

    Obviously the podium is quite safe.

    Ran a HM last Sunday, have a 10k this Sunday and a full marathon next Sunday week and i will be pissed if I am not between 3:45 and 3:50.

    Well done on your pbs ! Hope the man argon works out . I'd be happy just to hear a 49 59 in a tenk !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    So annoyed so very annoyed.

    Had a sports massage Thursday at lunch so no run . Felt fine all week like energy levels better but hadn't run sinceTuesday Then this morning 8 mile @6:00 mink . It felt ok and then as chatty but av the age heart rate at end was 175 . I'm mean sorry what , stupid watch!!! That's at least 20bmp higher then normal heart rate and the that pace

    I feel ok do not feel ill- just annoyed now . Hoping it was an anomaly .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Bluesquare wrote: »
    So annoyed so very annoyed.

    Had a sports massage Thursday at lunch so no run . Felt fine all week like energy levels better but hadn't run sinceTuesday Then this morning 8 mile @6:00 mink . It felt ok and then as chatty but av the age heart rate at end was 175 . I'm mean sorry what , stupid watch!!! That's at least 20bmp higher then normal heart rate and the that pace

    I feel ok do not feel ill- just annoyed now . Hoping it was an anomaly .

    I haven't a chance to read through your posts but you need to incorporate speedwork sessions into your weekly routine. I do this with a running club every Wednesday night. When I started I was hovering around the 51-54 min mark. Then I started speedwork (on a track) and training for HM. My 10k times just tumbled.

    Actually got it down to 44:19 yesterday which was a PB and 1st place in v35 category...but 46th out of 540 overall and would only have place 12th in v40...:o

    I have ran more HM/10 mile/20 mile events this calendar year. That was only my 3rd 10k this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Bluesquare wrote: »
    So annoyed so very annoyed.

    Had a sports massage Thursday at lunch so no run . Felt fine all week like energy levels better but hadn't run sinceTuesday Then this morning 8 mile @6:00 mink . It felt ok and then as chatty but av the age heart rate at end was 175 . I'm mean sorry what , stupid watch!!! That's at least 20bmp higher then normal heart rate and the that pace

    I feel ok do not feel ill- just annoyed now . Hoping it was an anomaly .


    Jeez, don't start a post that way... with all the injuries flaring up around here I was afraid to read further. :eek: Hopefully just the watch acting up.

    Did you abandon your parkrun plan?

    Looking forward to Saturday? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    I think you're racing this weekend? Hope you're feeling better and it goes to plan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Good luck this weekend BS, hope you smash it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Best luck if your racing, remember pain is weakness leaving the body :D give it socks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭hot buttered scones


    Good luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Oooh good luck BS!! Hope you have a great race :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Was it today or tomorrow? Am i too late to wish you luck? Hope it went well if it was today!!!!! Where's the update???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Thanks for all the well wishing folks.

    I didnt race - I got struck down with the winter vomiting bug coulpled with a with a bad flu. As did my entire family which needless to say was unpleasant .

    Just back to work this morning after been out all week . Haven't ran or even walked anywhere In many a day .

    Despite the horrific week and the not racing bit it probably was a good respite for the shin which was giving out mightly. Back in the saddle tomorrow and plan b to be put into action Ina couple of weeks .

    Nice flat course - corkaigh park . Did a 5k there about 2 years back . The watch had it clocked way to long by about 800m- now if I assume the garmin was blinky due to tree coverage , pacing will be a mare .

    Anyways. have to get running agsin first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    So sorry to hear you missed your race BS... but all that great training will still stand to you, it won't go to waste!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Here we go again ! Haven’t stopped running just posting . I never did run the sub 50 i just got mopey and whiney , took my foot off the pedal and missed the boat. I was king of training ! It felt good but never translated to races !

    Anyways decided to start reposting as I have recently Pbd twice at half marathon distance without trying too hard . The first one with the bestest negative spilt you have ever seen . So yeah I’m On a high and have a new mantra ! I’m never “racing” a race again .

    For my own records I’m going to post my two Race reports ! Whoop whoop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Barcelona Half Marathon 2018

    Race Report

    There were no planned tactics. It was a FUN RUN. A long run from Tesco up to Gormanston and back. Easy.

    After not a particularly early start (thankfully) and fueled by a white snickers (not as tasty as I’d hoped !) we headed from the hotel and merged with a sea of runners on their way to the start line .

    The sea got confused when it came to the bag drop and lengthy lines caused some tioletless anxiety . Our corale was sardines. We were penned and peeing opportunities passed.

    Finally we were moving and with a holler and a whoop we were off. Vamos Vamos!

    The kilometers zoomed by and were barely registered - a nice slow start slightly congested in places . We tagged behind some girls from A local Irish club whom seemed to be setting an agreeable pace consistent with our vague notion of trying to hit the 2 hr mark.

    We lost our pacers at the 5k water station , grabbed a bottle and continued our cruise . Left to our own devices and the banging Barcelona samba streets the pace increased unnoticed as we cheered on local lovebirds and even managed to be interviewed by luminous wig wearing madridistas with a hidden camera in their glasses. (Really )

    After been shocking surprised by the ten k mark it was loudly and Unanimously declared that this was the best race ever ever.

    Our wonderful supporter (I have been asked to amend to one of our wonderful supporters) Anna (the most wonderful) appeared at 11k with a motivational mantra and our lovely legs managed to start moving even faster. Promised a gel stop at 15k we pegged it to the water station clocking our fastest 5k of the race so far . Allez Allez!!

    After some icky refreshments and some stripping we were off again . Somebody ( You know who you are) thought that doing ten k pace at end of a half marathon was a super idea . Apparently this was fueled by the burning desire to dust the 2 hr pacers. Arriba Aribba - earth to earth pacers!

    We spent the last 5k cruising past carnaged comrades , including a sprint up a mountain at 18k ( it so was) . A sprightly winter wind appeared briefly but failed to dent our devilish dashing. The chit chat got the heave ho as a wee bit of effort was required for the final push. What a push it was ! (not helped at all by the teeny tiny downhill ). Our final two unnamed (amend to wonderful and not at all hungover) supporters had managed to get the finish line - so a sprint finish was required ! We were back at Tesco !!! Bring it Barca !!

    What a race , what a run . What a whopping pb!!

    Splits: 5:51,541,5:51,5:45,5:29,
    5:34,5:21,5:23,5:29, 5:26,
    5:19,5:22,511,5:19,5:25
    5:48,5:17,5:01,5:15,5;09
    5;06,4:30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Meath Spring Half Marathon 11th March 2018

    Race Report

    For this half Marathon we swapped the wide samba sidelines of Barcelona for the musky manured country roads of Bohermeen. Bohermeen was originally supposed to be the target race but after the buzz of Barca and downing of my co-targetee by the Australian flu , the foot was well and truly off the pedal. With a bit of cajoling one of the fantastic four did agree to come for the “crack!”

    Anyways we did the teeth chattering jog to the start line and lined up where we stopped which happened to be just behind the ballooned 2 hour Pacers. “ The Snow” was top of the sandbagging citations with everyone around cussing it ! If only for that snow hey!!

    We followed the pacer for 3k ish. After a bold move by the cajoled one we maneuvered past the balloons and quickly moved steadily away from the pacers . Gulp- too soon maybe?

    The course is pleasant (the perfuming aside)and the inclines are barely noticeable in the first half . Most folk were club folk running in twos and threes which made early passing a bit of an exercise . The thought did pass my mind that many of these guys would pass me later. Hardly the mindset of a champion .

    The locals were out in force (about 15?) - mostly at the water stations . Hard working urchins handed out sports capped mini bottles that were perfect for the journey . I’m ridiculously bad at hydration so forced myself to drink a sip every km .

    The turn back towards the start brought a country breeze and the reminder we had to do it all again . The brain didn’t like this and slowed down scared, in this loop the hills were looming. It was time for the hill mantra “ one two Freddy’s coming for you , three four you better lock that door!”.

    I only had to get to 16k were I gifted myself with a wee rest for more gel buzz. Lazy bones me may have made a meal of the gel. Well rested I clocked the fastest k of the race afterwards.

    Only 5k to go. This wasn’t fun anymore . My legs hurt - my calf screamed but I soldiered on just wanting it done . I tucked in behind two lads who were setting a steady pace and tried to keep up.

    At about 2k to go I had become part of a determined group of about 5 battle wearied warriors running in formation with the two lads leading the pack .

    Once we turned the corner and started on the home straight there was none of this solider messing and we raced each other to the finish line . I wasn’t doing too well in the placings until I spotted the clock . I had a chance of a pb !! Whoop whoop . Out of my way soldier boys!!! This girl is taking it Home!

    Spilts:
    5:40,5:28,5:27,5:26;5:20
    5:21,5:26,5:26,519,5:18
    5:28,5:27,5:27,5:25,5:30
    6:10,5:15,5:24 ,5:23,5:20
    4:07


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Well done! I know I should be able to work it out from the splits, but what we're your actual finish times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    chickey2 wrote: »
    Well done! I know I should be able to work it out from the splits, but what we're your actual finish times?

    Oh yeah that would have helped I suspose .

    First one 1:55:31 second one 1:54:53

    I have been much fitter and trained harder and always bottled it on the day . 1:59:10 previous Pb


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Bluesquare wrote: »
    Oh yeah that would have helped I suspose .

    First one 1:55:31 second one 1:54:53

    I have been much fitter and trained harder and always bottled it on the day . 1:59:10 previous Pb

    Great pb!


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