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Why are there no rock stars anymore?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Bono is still around................your right there all gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Noveight wrote: »
    Liam Gallagher explains all in 30ish seconds.


    What an imbecilic fcukwit that man is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭737max


    answer: The film "Spinal Tap"

    It made the musical artistes more self-aware.
    the T.V. show Silicon Valley and the like will do the same for IT entrepreneurs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Is everyone forgetting about the Foo Fighters and Queens Of the Stone Age?

    :pac: The Foo Fighters :pac:

    Liam Gallagher is nothing but a moron.

    Iggy is still going, Nick Cave has still got it going on.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Johnny rotton was a rock star and told it how it was and was banned for calling saville a dirty paedo back in the 80's. To be fair to him, he's still Johnny rotton today. Not like all the reformed characters around today.

    Would that be the same jonny rotten that's the 'country life' Butter advertiser? ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Is everyone forgetting about the Foo Fighters and Queens Of the Stone Age?

    With any luck, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Let's face it, all that rock star ****e was just arsehole behaviour.

    It's like your dad telling stories about all the old local characters and how you don't have their type around any more, and you start to realise that those "characters" were in reality just a bunch of smelly, seedy old drunks wasting their lives in pubs.

    Same with those old crock stars. I mean, who wants to be some druggy twat wrecking hotel rooms? That's something to aspire to? Nah, you can keep it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    With any luck, yes.

    The Foo Fighters are as rock as Bon Jovi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    I reckon the closest we get to a rock star these days is Russel brand, shame he's not in a band.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    Let's face it, all that rock star ****e was just arsehole behaviour.

    It's like your dad telling stories about all the old local characters and how you don't have their type around any more, and you start to realise that those "characters" were in reality just a bunch of smelly, seedy old drunks wasting their lives in pubs.

    Same with those old crock stars. I mean, who wants to be some druggy twat wrecking hotel rooms? That's something to aspire to? Nah, you can keep it.

    I agree, sure Metallica are sober......but the machine is worth a billion dollars. Good luck to them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Johngoose


    Shows like X-Factor are killing off young talent. An example being X-Factor having a monopoly with Christmas number 1 singles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Rock got old. The world moved on. Long hair, drug & child abuse, the odd catchy riff and leather pants just don't cut it anymore.

    It's all BEEP BEEEEP this and BWAW BWAAAAWW that now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Josh Homme is still around :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    'Rock stars' stopped seeming rebellious around the time gangsta rap became popular in the early nineties. Driving a limousine into a swimming pool can't really compete with popping a cap in a niggas ass. And then there was the likes of Kurt Cobain ridiculing Guns N' Roses and Metallica.

    And a big part of the 'rock and roll lifestyle' was having sex with underage groupies. Jimmy Page had a fourteen year old girlfriend who supposedly slept with David Bowie too when she was thirteen. I think Gary Glitter finally killed off the idea that that kind of thing was acceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind




    Rock on Billy:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    The whole rock star bullshit pretty much killed itself in a cloud of cocaine and crap music. I like my rock music to be less about ego and more about music.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Organ failure is why there are no interesting rock stars around these days but i think pu$$ification is why the rock n roll lifestyle isn't being lived by the bands out there. Too into clean living etc.

    I imagine twitter would crash if some musician bit the head off a bat nowadays.


  • Administrators Posts: 56,576 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Is everyone forgetting about the Foo Fighters and Queens Of the Stone Age?

    Soft, sanitised rock.

    Some good hits among a sea of bland muck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    You can thank Foo Fighters for making mainstream rock boring. But thankfully rock music has always been better away from the mainstream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Matt Bellamy of Muse is one of the last ones remaining. He shreds on guitar, all his songs are about the post apocalypse, he believes in all sorts of crazy conspiracies and no one really knows much about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Changing tastes and consequently there's no money to be made in that genre anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭danmanw8


    None of the above. There are just no true rock stars about at the moment.

    Because rock isn't popular like it was before I guess. Probably are rock stars out there, they're just not famous


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its simple really.

    It all depends on mystic and a belief that the lifestyle is 'better' than that available to mere mortals more money more drugs more sex, now the availability of sex and drugs is commonplace.

    Healthy lifestyles are the thing today, groupies and trophy wives have acquired the aura of being a bit sleazy.

    Mostly though..." Through a chink too wide there comes in no wonder".


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    It used to take years of gigging, making music and establishing yourself as a band and frontman to become a rockstar.
    Now we have fast food bands making fast food music for the present and not for longevity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Exactly why James hetfield of Metallica moved to out of San Francisco. He hates liberals.

    I think he said liberals hate him

    Probably his 4X4s with gun racks and penchant for cowboy boots that did it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    There was plenty of rock stars who made **** all money but still rock starred merrily away


  • Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Its simple really.

    It all depends on mystic and a belief that the lifestyle is 'better' than that available to mere mortals more money more drugs more sex, now the availability of sex and drugs is commonplace.

    Healthy lifestyles are the thing today, groupies and trophy wives have acquired the aura of being a bit sleazy.

    Mostly though..." Through a chink too wide there comes in no wonder".

    This is the best answer I think. Back in the 70s and 80s, rock stars lived a life people could only wonder about and look at in awe. A bit like nobles back hundreds of years ago. Nowadays the basic standard of living and level of comfort is so high that wealth and hedonism does not deliver the same sense of awe or have the same psychological impact on people. People in coucil estates drive BMW's and snort cocaine at the weekend these days.

    Also, in this age, every concept has been broken down and ridiculed (think of the humour of Family Guy) and nothing has any mystique because information is too readily available and our senses are blunted from overstimulation. Where even in the 90s peoples heads would turn if they saw a famous person, now they're like "who cares - they're just some guy/girl like you or me". Nowadays if some famous music person or actor gave off an air of thinkign they were better than others they are instantly derided on the internet so there is more pressure on famous people to be "PR friendly" so as many people like them as possible - this also means they are more fake than back in the day.

    Nowadays there is a less steep gradient between "famous" and "not famous" due to the existence of social media. Someone like Craig Doyle, had he been famous in the 90s and to pick a totally random example, would have been seen as infinitely more famous than some random schmuk, siince he was on TV, whereas nowadays he'd only be marginally more "given a **** about" than someone on instgram/snapchat with a few thousand followers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    It depends how you define a rock star.

    For me a proper rockstar is basically a narcissistic arsehole with a decadent lifestyle who constantly generates controversy and offends people. Despite being a hip hop artist rather than a rock artist, I think Kanye fits the bill pretty well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Like acting, comedy and the rest of the arts, music is becoming the preserve of the rich kids. Those whose parents can afford to indulge them and pay for their lifestyles and they chase their goals.

    The likes of Oasis, the Stone Roses and Primal Scream have been replaced by the private school kids like James Blunt, Lilly Allen, and Mumford & Sons.

    The Arctic Monkeys were the last real working class band to breakthrough and that was nearly a decade ago.


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