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1 in 4 social houses refused. Homeless crisis on arse.

  • 08-10-2017 09:04PM
    #1
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    What a joke.

    "Of the 1,009 houses offered to people on the waiting list last year, 300 applicants turned them down or didn't respond to the offer"

    Sense of entitlement is killing this country. There is no homeless crisis. Just people jumping the q by going homeless to get their free gaff near their favourite pub and bookies.

    http://www.newstalk.com/One-in-four-Dublin-social-homes-reportedly-rejected-49263

    Sinn feins daithi on the defensive of course.


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  • #2
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    What a joke.

    "Of the 1,009 houses offered to people on the waiting list last year, 300 applicants turned them down or didn't respond to the offer"

    Sense of entitlement is killing this country. There is no homeless crisis. Just people jumping the q by going homeless to get their free gaff near their favourite pub and bookies.

    http://www.newstalk.com/One-in-four-Dublin-social-homes-reportedly-rejected-49263

    I'm pretty sure there is you know.


  • #3
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Rick Shaw wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure there is you know.

    No there isn't.

    We have one of the lowest homeless figures is Europe and even at that, I doubt most of these people are actually homeless.

    Sure anyone can just register themselves as homeless nowadays.

    Leave the family home at 18, saying no room or some ****e and suddenly your homeless.

    What a joke.


  • #4
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    The issue of homeless accommodation being turned down isn't as black and white as people like to think it is. Personally I have no time for people who'll turn it down because the garden doesn't face south or something. But if you're being offered something two doors down from the local drug dealer or in an obviously rough area, why would you take it?


  • #5
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Ursus Horribilis wrote: »
    The issue of homeless accommodation being turned down isn't as black and white as people like to think it is. Personally I have no time for people who'll turn it down because the garden doesn't face south or something. But if you're being offered something two doors down from the local drug dealer or in an obviously rough area, why would you take it?


    Link to that story please?


  • #6
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    You wouldn't keep a dog in some of those dumps let alone raise children


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  • #7
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    You wouldn't keep a dog in some of those dumps let alone raise children

    What dumps?


  • #8
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    No there isn't.

    What housing crisis would Varadkar or Murphy be referring to here then :confused:
    Earlier, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said there is no quick fix or a single solution to solve the housing crisis.

    Mr Murphy earlier said funding will not be a problem in the Government's efforts to tackle the housing crisis.

    This article is a load of balls then ?


  • #9
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Three out of four social houses accepted.


  • #10
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Should be removed from the lists and blocked from accessing hap and other rent supplements ,

    Even people in hotels and b&bs are turning down social housing it's beyond a joke at this point
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  • #11
    Snotty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Snotty


    There's the genuine homeless and then there is the people claiming to be homeless to get a house quicker.
    Out of the genuinely homeless, there is a large percentage that can't physically manage to keep a house, they have some underlying problems, usually drugs but mental health issues also.

    So all this talk of homeless crisis is to benifit all those playing the system and a small few genuinely homeless.
    If you are claiming homeless and you have turned down a property because it wasn't in the right area, then I have no sympathy.


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  • #12
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,327 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Don't these people get to refuse a house and get offered another one soon after?


  • #13
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Gatling wrote: »
    Should be removed from the lists and blocked from accessing hap and other rent supplements ,

    Even people in hotels and b&bs are turning down social housing it's beyond a joke at this point

    As you can see from this thread people swallow this ****e which just makes the problem worst.

    Where did the idea of not having to work and pay your way in society come from?


  • #14
    cbyrd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    Sense of entitlement is killing this country. There is no homeless crisis. Just people jumping the q by going homeless to get their free gaff near their favourite pub and bookies.


    And where's your link to this story?


  • #15
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Don't these people get to refuse a house and get offered another one soon after?

    3 choices of home and 3 choices of area.

    Unbelievable.


  • #16
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    I was homeless myself 4 years ago for 8 months cost me my place in university I'm still dealing with the health implications to this day so shut the hell up about there being no crisis until it has effected you or yours shut the hell up.


  • #17
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    cbyrd wrote: »
    And where's your link to this story?

    In the op.


  • #18
    alan1963
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭alan1963


    Ursus Horribilis wrote: »
    The issue of homeless accommodation being turned down isn't as black and white as people like to think it is. Personally I have no time for people who'll turn it down because the garden doesn't face south or something. But if you're being offered something two doors down from the local drug dealer or in an obviously rough area, why would you take it?

    Wouldn't this save most welfare claimants a walk?


  • #19
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    I was homeless myself 4 years ago for 8 months cost me my place in university I'm still dealing with the health implications to this day so shut the hell up about there being no crisis until it has effected you or yours shut the hell up.

    No thanks I won't shut the hell up.

    There is genuine homeless people who need help.

    But there is a huge amount scamming the system.

    There isn't a crisis.


  • #20
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    As you can see from this thread people swallow this ****e which just makes the problem worst.
    It looks like the Taoiseach and housing minister have swallowed it too. You, for whatever reason you have, are trying to deny a crisis exists. I'll take the word of the homeless charities, and people in the housing departments all the same.
    Where did the idea of not having to work and pay your way in society come from?

    This escalsted quickly. :)


  • #21
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    3 choices of home and 3 choices of area.

    Unbelievable.

    In my lA alone 7.7 million is owed in unpaid rents alone from people In social housing ,

    Beginning to think it's the way to go
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  • #22
    cbyrd
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    In the op.


    Don't see any evidence there, only one Dublin councillors opinion. Did he personally interview the people who turned down these house's? Did you? Do you know for fact that they turned them down cos they're too far away from their local pub or bookies or are you just spouting sh!te out your ar5e.
    Come back with an opinion when you've been homeless and been through the system.
    Then you'll have a bit if knowledge about the situation.


  • #23
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Rick Shaw wrote: »
    It looks like the Taoiseach and housing minister have swallowed it too. You, for whatever reason you have, are trying to deny a crisis exists. I'll take the word of the homeless charities, and people in the housing departments all the same.



    This escalsted quickly. :)

    Oh of course homeless charities and their ceos on 100k a week have nothing to gain by exaggerating the situation.


  • #24
    Slydice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    this ...

    again ...

    ugh ...
    Slydice wrote: »
    It was supply when I looked at Refusals last.

    Housing waiting list size Versus Refusals
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97606025&postcount=36
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  • #25
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    cbyrd wrote: »
    Don't see any evidence there, only one Dublin councillors opinion. Did he personally interview the people who turned down these house's? Did you? Do you know for fact that they turned them down cos they're too far away from their local pub or bookies or are you just spouting sh!te out your ar5e.
    Come back with an opinion when you've been homeless and been through the system.
    Then you'll have a bit if knowledge about the situation.

    Oh so I can only have an opinion if I am homeless?

    Interesting.


  • #26
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    You wouldn't keep a dog in some of those dumps let alone raise children
    Beside other children in social housing? What makes your family different from any other family? You live where you can afford.


  • #27
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So apparently people will only take apartments if they are middle floors.
    Didn't like the interior splash of paint lazy sods

    "Their reasons included them being too big or too small, apartments being on the ground floor or too high and the paper reports that some have also said they disliked the interior"
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  • #28
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    No thanks I won't shut the hell up.

    There is genuine homeless people who need help.

    But there is a huge amount scamming the system.

    There isn't a crisis.

    Do you wear a T-shirt everyday with that printed on it as well?


  • #29
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Beside other children in social housing? What makes your family different from any other family? You live where you can afford.

    Not nowadays.

    Cost doesnt come into it, well it does for people working and having to buy outside Dublin and commute everyday.

    But to a certain cohort cost doesn't matter.

    Whoever screams loudest gets the most.


  • #30
    cbyrd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    Sense of entitlement is killing this country. There is no homeless crisis. Just people jumping the q by going homeless to get their free gaff near their favourite pub and bookies.


    With this opinion then no, I don't think you get what being homeless is actually like. But hey. Let's not allow facts to get on the way of a scintillating thread read.


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  • #31
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Xenji wrote: »
    Do you wear a T-shirt everyday with that printed on it as well?

    If I say yes would it make your joke funny?


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