Man fcuked over by his Ex

Roger Hassenforder · 06-10-2017 04:22PM #1

Interesting case:

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/06/man-loses-damages-claim-against-ivf-clinic-over-forged-consent

Wealthy man's xgirlfriend, forged his signature, and uses a frozen embryo to get pregnant after they broke up. He sues the clinic for negligence but loses despite the judge remarking;

"Although [the father] has lost this case, my judgment must be seen as a complete personal and moral vindication. The same, of course, cannot be said for the mother" ...accusing her of " mendacious embellishment”...and making up evidence "as she went along.”

He seems well healed, so can probably afford to provide "private education, nannies, her wedding, university education, skiing trips, refurbishing her bedroom and a Land Rover Discovery used to transport the girl and his eight-year-old son."

What a bitch though, looks like she has totally gotten away with it.

readyletsgo · 06-10-2017 04:25PM

Ultimate in 'spermjacker'.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-10-2017 04:26PM

This was a civil case. The act of forging someone's signature would/will be most likely delt with seperately in a criminal case.

BrokenArrows · 06-10-2017 04:31PM

Its quite crazy that a signature is still used to verify identity for important things.

The case wasnt about what his ex did but was a lawsuit against the company for the cost of raising the child.
Its a bit mad that nothing was awarded to him.

thee glitz · 06-10-2017 04:43PM

The clinic has changed its practices so that if both parties are not available for the signing of the forms, written consent is followed up with a phone call.

Watertight. Wtf is wrong with this company..?

rejects claim as parents cannot be compensated for birth of healthy child

and that country.

B.A._Baracus · 06-10-2017 05:10PM

He got stung pretty bad.
It's one thing to be foolish and knock someone up that you should never have went near in the first place (many a person has made that mistake) But going behind your back to get sperm? that's a new one!

She's crazy in any case.

Saruhashi · 06-10-2017 05:19PM

Do people who do this stuff not stop to think of how it might affect their kid when they grow up?

Can you imagine being 16 years old and discovering that your mother forged your fathers signature and went behind his back, a year after they had broken up, to have you without his consent.

That's going to mess with your head. That you may have been born out of your mothers desire for "revenge" on your father.

"Kid, your mum was really angry with your dad and really upset after their break up so she had you to get back at him. Good luck."

Pero_Bueno · 06-10-2017 05:29PM

What a crazy kunt ! , I feel so sorry for the daughter having a lunatic like that for a mother!

Roger Hassenforder · 06-10-2017 05:34PM

begbysback wrote: »

There should be a girlfriend suitability test. She should have to score highly on both emotional and mental tests - then a 6 - 12 month cooling off period, call it the practical test - only at this point after acceptance test is satisfactory can she then be considered "girlfriend"

Wives could be sent back to some repository / authority as well for periodical reassessment.
If a significant alteration/malfunction as occurred to the one you were issued with, a replacement is sent out.

Gone Drinking · 06-10-2017 05:45PM

He's obviously worth a few quid, given the description of the damages he's looking for (damages, that he wasn't awarded so he'll be expected to pay from his own pocket).

This woman did it, knowing that she would be entitled to have him put money towards the childcare, a significant amount of money by the sounds of it.

Sad times when the court and experts agrees with everything the guys saying but he still comes out worse off. She should be locked up and the treatment centre should be paying some sort of compensation to him for their complete mess up.

the_pen_turner · 06-10-2017 05:46PM

child should be taken from the mother and given to the father with him with full custody

Nabber · 06-10-2017 06:01PM

Feel sorry for the child. Created simply to be a pawn.

begbysback · 06-10-2017 06:03PM

Nabber wrote: »

Feel sorry for the child. Created simply to be a pawn.

Would it really matter? You could argue most of us were created just because someone was having a bit of craic

Roger Hassenforder · 06-10-2017 06:13PM

begbysback wrote: »

Would it really matter? You could argue most of us were created just because someone was having a bit of craic

literally

Capt'n Midnight · 06-10-2017 11:47PM

Does he still have to pay child support ?

myshirt · 06-10-2017 11:54PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Does he still have to pay child support ?

Yes. That was the whole point. He was suing them for the cost they imposed upon him.

This woman is a disgrace to the decent broads out there.

Shemale · 07-10-2017 07:36AM

Unreal they did not witness the signatures before making a baby.

One thing weird about this is they had his sperm so he must have given it to them, if not surely they would have mentioned it in the article.

07-10-2017 07:44AM

Shemale wrote: »

Unreal they did not witness the signatures before making a baby.

One thing weird about this is they had his sperm so he must have given it to them, if not surely they would have mentioned it in the article.

I presume the issue is not that the whole event was a fraud, or it was taken without his knowledge. He participated in it, so it's not like he's completely a victim. It just seems that, having given his sperm, he didn't trigger the go ahead.

You'd think there'd also be some onus on him to signal that he no longer wanted them to use his sperm or the embryos. Did he forget about it once they broke up, or rely wholly on their ability to deduce his handwriting?

beefburrito · 07-10-2017 07:47AM

Waiting for the militant feminist's to defend the harlot.......

07-10-2017 07:56AM

beefburrito wrote: »

Waiting for the militant feminist's to defend the harlot.......

Maybe she just wanted children? She is now in her 40s, she had embryos available from a partner who had participated in providing them but was no longer around to give consent to the go ahead or likely to give it, I think one could have some sympathy. Does the article say she had pursued him for a lot of money, or he was suing for anticipated payments.

07-10-2017 08:04AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe she just wanted children? She is now in her 40s, she had embryos available from a partner who had participated in providing them but was no longer around to give consent to the go ahead or likely to give it, I think one could have some sympathy. Does the article say she had pursued him for a lot of money, or he was suing for anticipated payments.

Bolded part should be what matters IMO

suicide_circus · 07-10-2017 08:08AM

"I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability"

Samaris · 07-10-2017 08:13AM

begbysback wrote: »

There should be a girlfriend suitability test. She should have to score highly on both emotional and mental tests - then a 6 - 12 month cooling off period, call it the practical test - only at this point after acceptance test is satisfactory can she then be considered "girlfriend"

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Wives could be sent back to some repository / authority as well for periodical reassessment.
If a significant alteration/malfunction as occurred to the one you were issued with, a replacement is sent out.

begbysback wrote: »

Excellent call - only after a few comparisons can a man really be satisfied that he has made the right decision.

suicide_circus wrote: »

"I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability"

Mod: Enough of the misogynistic rubbish (and kindly remember that plenty of women use boards too). Discuss the story, not your views on half the population please. People will start getting thread-banned for this sort of thing.

beefburrito · 07-10-2017 08:15AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe she just wanted children? She is now in her 40s, she had embryos available from a partner who had participated in providing them but was no longer around to give consent to the go ahead or likely to give it, I think one could have some sympathy. Does the article say she had pursued him for a lot of money, or he was suing for anticipated payments.

As a man I've no sympathy for her.

If a guy decided to rob a woman's egg's and it was possible to fertilize them and bring them through gestation artificially, would you be feeling sympathy for him,fck no...

But I'm sure a few feminist's will applaud your comment and maybe send you a pm looking for your phone number, because your such an amazing guy.

julyjane · 07-10-2017 08:19AM

Wasn't there a case in Ireland a few years back where a couple had separated or divorced and the ex wife wanted to become pregnant with their remaining frozen embryos but her ex husband wouldn't consent so she brought him to court? I think our ever precious right to life of the unborn was a big factor in the woman's side of the argument.

07-10-2017 08:20AM

beefburrito wrote: »

As a man I've no sympathy for her.

If a guy decided to rob a woman's egg's and it was possible to fertilize them and bring them through gestation artificially, would you be feeling sympathy for him,fck no...

But I'm sure a few feminist's will applaud your comment and maybe send you a pm looking for your phone number, because your such an amazing guy.

There is no suggestion the semen was robbed.

Try to stick to the facts. And relax a little with the whole feminist fixation and the ravings about me being an amazing guy. She did not steal the semen.

Do you want to try a better analogy that works with the story in the OP and drop the angry stuff?

07-10-2017 08:22AM

Simply put, if the man didn't give consent for his sperm to be used then it's a disgrace. The fact she forged his signature is really insult to injury.

The bloke is entitled to have his sperm in a facility for later use if he so chooses much the same way as the lady would have that same right with her eggs.

There should be no defending this.

suicide_circus · 07-10-2017 08:22AM

In a way, I suppose she played a blinder.

07-10-2017 08:24AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is no suggestion the semen was robbed.

Try to stick to the facts.

Did she not obtain the sample by forging his signature without his consent? That's fraudulently acquiring it without the owner's permission. More or less stealing you could say.

beefburrito · 07-10-2017 08:25AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is no suggestion the semen was robbed.

Try to stick to the facts. And relax a little with the whole feminist fixation and the ravings about me being an amazing guy. She did not steal the semen.

Do you want to try a better analogy that works with the story in the OP and drop the angry stuff?

She obtained the semen through corruption, forgery, dishonesty and without out the consent of the owner.

But she did not steal the semen.

Surly if I used your MasterCard to buy diesel without your consent it wouldn't be stealing.

Come on now Conor stop hanging out with the lefties.

begbysback · 07-10-2017 08:27AM

Samaris wrote: »

Mod: Enough of the misogynistic rubbish (and kindly remember that plenty of women use boards too). Discuss the story, not your views on half the population please. People will start getting thread-banned for this sort of thing.

Sorry - thought this was AH

Man fcuked over by his Ex

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