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Vegas shooting incident

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Yeah, I take back calling him an anti-Trump leftist. I don't what was thinking.

    Yeah, he was from Arkansas and they voted for Trump. The anti-Trump brigade will be along once it's officially confirmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,950 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    511 wrote: »
    <SNIP>

    LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

    Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Feel a bit bad for Mark Lutchman if that pics doing the rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,999 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Gatling wrote:
    It's just another case of an angry man with access to guns and high capacity magazine or belts


    I'd say he's not only angry but probably mentally very unwell to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Do we have an official confirmation of his identity though?

    I don't know know, but his wife has been identified and the photos match. She's on his friends list.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Got a feeling the reason will be he didn't like country music / the festival kept him awake etc..
    Just seems so indiscriminate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Why exactly are people posting facebook profiles? Is this based on something the headcases from 4chan and reddit have said, or is it confirmed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

    <SNIP>

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    VinLieger wrote: »
    LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

    Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right

    He's a Bernie Sanders supporter. Hilary would be right wing by European standards, but not Bernie. You have to remember America is a two-party system, even antifa vote Democrats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭elefant


    One of the groups liked on that page is the National Gun Victims Action Council.

    The whole incident sounds horrendous, and I feel a level of self-loathing for even feeling a modicum of hope that it is/isn't something connected to one thing or the other. Senseless suffering.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,840 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    VinLieger wrote: »
    LOL the american qualification of left sure....... saying democrats are on the left is like saying Fianna Fail are on the left.

    Anyone calling themselves left in america is really just centre/centre right

    What most Americans call "leftists"would be to the right of the Tories by European standards.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    511 wrote: »
    I don't know know, but his wife has been identified and the photos match. She's on his friends list.

    Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

    You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dirty bastard whoever he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

    You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.

    Yes, the police released her name


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    silverharp wrote: »
    here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

    [snip]

    I used some JS to get the list.

    A Day of Rest
    Addicting Info
    Admirals Club - Los Angeles
    Al Franken
    Alan Grayson
    Alliance for Retired Americans
    AlterNet
    AMA Patients’ Action Network
    American News
    Americans Against The Republican Party
    Anti-Trump Army
    Backed By Fact
    Barack Obama
    Being Liberal
    Bernie for Prezz
    Bill Maher
    Bill Maher Fanpage
    Bill Moyers
    Bipartisan Report
    Bloomberg Philanthropies
    Bob Clausen
    Boycott All Things Trump
    Bread for the World
    Campaign for America's Future
    Center for Reproductive Rights
    Cheers Liquor and Wine Shoppe
    Circa
    CJS Graphic Creations
    Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
    Consumers Union
    Council for a Livable World
    Daily Kos
    Debra Danley Music Instruction
    Democracy Today
    Democratic Hub
    Democrats
    Drone Magazine
    Drug Policy Alliance
    Elizabeth Warren
    EMILY's List
    Enact the Consumer Financial Protection Agency!
    Environmental Action
    Environmental Defense Fund
    Everytown for Gun Safety
    Feminist Majority Foundation
    Fight Trump
    Fire The Tea Party
    Fitbit
    Fix the Court
    FWD NOW
    FWD.us
    Gone Left
    Good Shepherd Home Care
    Great Job Barack!
    Greenpeace USA
    Harry's
    HealthCare.gov
    Heart City Health
    Human Rights Campaign
    If You Only News
    Impeach Trump
    In Democrats We Trust
    Inkjetcartridge.com
    International Fund for Animal Welfare - IFAW
    It Gets Worse -- The 2012 Republican Contest: Who is worst for America?
    Joe's Italian Grill
    Just For Men
    Just For Men
    Just Label It
    Justice Writers
    Kevin McCarthy
    Lahela
    Latest.com
    Left Action
    LGBTIQs Against Islamophobia and Hatred of Muslims
    Liberal American
    Liberal Progressive Democrats
    Liberal Speak
    Love Style
    Madam President
    Mark Lutchman
    Michael L. Berry Home Inspections LLC
    Mother Jones
    MoveOn.org
    NARAL Pro-Choice America
    National Association for Gun Rights
    National Gun Victims Action Council - "A Force for Sane Gun Laws"
    National Partnership for Women & Families
    National Women's Law Center
    Neil deGrasse Tyson
    Newsmax
    NextGen America
    Nina Turner
    Not My President
    O W V Media
    Occupy Democrats
    Oceana
    Off The Main Page
    One Wisconsin Now
    Opposing Views
    Opposition Report
    People For the American Way
    People, like Bernie Sanders, electing candidates, like Bernie Sanders
    People's Action
    PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)
    Petition: End Too Big To Fail!
    PETITION: Tell Speaker Boehner:Stop China from killing US manufacturing jobs
    Policulous
    Political Dig
    President Bill Clinton
    Pro Choice
    Progress Tribune
    Progressive Day
    Progressive Liberal
    Progressives for Our Revolution
    Proud Democrat
    Proud Democrats
    Proud Liberal
    Proud Liberal Americans
    Proud Liberals
    Proud To Be A Democrat
    Rare Media
    Raw Progressive
    Reverb Press
    Robert Reich
    Rubicon Training Group
    Run Bernie Run
    Run Warren Run
    Sandra Fluke
    Sanity News
    Save Main St
    Senator Harry Reid
    Shareblue Media
    Shot@Life
    Sierra.Rise
    Signature Weddings
    Social Security Works
    Speak out now to protect the Arctic Refuge
    State Rep. Brian M. Ohler
    Stories That Resonate
    Taunt The Elephant
    Tell Barack: I Support Obamacare
    Tell the FDA: Crushed beavers are not a "natural flavoring"
    Thank You Obama
    The Blue Wave
    The Daily Caller
    The Jjolly Llama
    The Nation Magazine
    The Obama White House
    The Other 98%
    The Rachel Maddow Show
    The White House
    Trump 101
    Truth Examiner
    U.S. PIRG
    U.S. Senator Al Franken
    U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
    U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren
    VoteVets.org
    Waldrop Range LLC
    We Are Liberal
    William J. Clinton Presidential Library
    Women's Health Resources
    Write to Congress: Don't Cut Hope and Opportunity for Hungry People



    Not the guy apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Do we have an official confirmation of her identity?

    You might be right and it might be them, but after everything that happened in the aftermath of the Boston Bombing then we need to have due diligence.

    She appeared on sky news with a photo

    4ft11 in height....an ould wan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Lougarden


    There is another completely different male name being spread about on social media. Considering only one male suspect, that is terrible because one most likely incorrect identity being linked to attack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,064 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    elefant wrote: »
    One of the groups liked on that page is the National Gun Victims Action Council.

    The whole incident sounds horrendous, and I feel a level of self-loathing for even feeling a modicum of hope that it is/isn't something connected to one thing or the other. Senseless suffering.
    This is the amusing part of American gun politics. I mean he supports "gun victims" and "thanks obama" yet loopers like him are only able to get the guns they use BECAUSE of Trump and his ilk. The "beliefs" they have are almost always complete opposites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    National Association for Gun Rights
    National Gun Victims Action Council - "A Force for Sane Gun Laws"

    WTF?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,950 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Well this threads turned into the usual reactionary blame game chinese whispers sh1tshow that these breaking news after hours threads always end up turning into. The confirmation bias of the posts claiming what his motives were are really astounding.

    Consider the shoe was on the other foot and if his facebook profile had been full of trump and republican pages, everyone on here rabidly feeding on the glory of him being a "leftist" and the twisted idea that this is some kind of "win" for their side of the political sphere, you would likely be claiming his profile was faked and it was some kind of conspiracy. I know you will deny it but deep down you know its true. People died tonight but all everyone is concerned about is which side is ahead of the other.

    Anyway im out of this death celebratory circle jerk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    silverharp wrote: »
    here is FB of people he follows, seems like a similar character to the guy that shot the Republican politicians

    Might be best to remove that FB link just in case it's not him.

    That's why I screencapped with no name showing.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t

    A few pages ago, he was a Muslim terrorist. Then he was an alt-right Trumpeteer. Then the possibility of him being a Republican who hated Trump was thanked many times.
    Now, he's a loonie from the left and it's irrelevant.

    And while he is a murdering c**t, he's a domestic terrorist and should be called that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,470 ✭✭✭MOH


    I used some JS to get the list.
    ....
    PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)
    ....

    Ah, those nut jobs. Sure that explains it all.
    /s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,785 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Jesus Christ.

    I said "going by his FB posts" and "going by" means 'appears' ffs!!

    And again, I was talking about that particular guy, not every single person on the planet who is anti-Trump.

    The point is, what does it matter? Are you saying that that was his motivation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Right ok now, no one gives a flying ****e if he's left, right, middle, black, white, muslim, christian or anything else - he's simply a murdering c**t

    Why somebody decided to murder dozens of people is important to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    511 wrote: »
    < snip >
    Do we have an official confirmation of his identity though?

    +1
    One of the many Facebook groups followed by this individual is 'National Gun Victims Action Council - A Force for Sane Gun Laws'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Grayson wrote: »
    The point is, what does it matter? Are you saying that that was his motivation.

    Oh ffs. Give it a rest. When that right wing nut drove a car into the crowd were you whinging about him being called out as such? I bet you weren't.

    Anyway, for what it's worth. ABC have just confirmed that the shooter was a 64-year-old white male. Not sure if that tallys with who this is rumoured to be:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-gunman-identified-police-white-male-mandalay-bay-casino-strip-a7978241.html?amp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,785 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    That guy lives in Arkansas. The shooter was a local.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,840 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    To note, the FB profile being posted over the last few pages is NOT the person the Police have named: Las Vegas shooting suspect is 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, @PeteWilliamsNBC reports


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