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lleyn ram

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  • #32
    eire23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭eire23


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    how do the grade flesh and weight wise as the summer progresses any stunted growth or other patterns too look out for?
    Left the ram lambs entire, graded roughly half U and the rest R. Was happy with how well they done, had heard a lot of stories about them being hard finnished
    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Lads, how do they cross with suffolks. Even though we only keep 30 ewes was thinking of getting a second ram.

    Would you be keeping back the ewe lambs?


  • #33
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    eire23 wrote: »
    Left the ram lambs entire, graded roughly half U and the rest R. Was happy with how well they done, had heard a lot of stories about them being hard finnished



    Would you be keeping back the ewe lambs?
    No, usually buy any replacements hoggets we need from a few neighbours. Too much hassle keeping ewe lambs.


  • #34
    eire23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭eire23


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    No, usually buy any replacements hoggets we need from a few neighbours. Too much hassle keeping ewe lambs.

    What rams have you at present? If your not keeping ewe lambs id be inclined to go with some other ram tbh. Main point of the lleyn is to breed replacements and when your not doing that your as well off using some terminal sire and having the lambs gone as quick and as cheaply as possible.


  • #35
    clarenman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭clarenman


    I have a pbnr hogget Lleyn ram lamb left over.anyone interested?? pm me for details.Galway area .thanks


  • #36
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    eire23 wrote: »
    What rams have you at present? If your not keeping ewe lambs id be inclined to go with some other ram tbh. Main point of the lleyn is to breed replacements and when your not doing that your as well off using some terminal sire and having the lambs gone as quick and as cheaply as possible.
    Fair point. We were out of sheep a long time, just got back into them the last two years. So learning all the time. Have a Suffolk at the moment, but he is one Wicked b#yard!


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  • #37
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    Fair point. We were out of sheep a long time, just got back into them the last two years. So learning all the time. Have a Suffolk at the moment, but he is one Wicked b#yard!

    Yep I sold a Suffolk this year aswell as he was so wicked. U couldn't go out in the field and he would attack u.


  • #38
    razor8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭razor8


    Sure mac isn't after buying your ram sea!!!!


  • #39
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    razor8 wrote: »
    Sure mac isn't after buying your ram sea!!!!

    It's possible but I think he was destined for the big hook.


  • #40
    LambMaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭LambMaster


    foxylock wrote: »
    One last question (sorry for wrecking your heads)

    How hardy are the Lleyn as a breed, will they survive all year round on the mountain like the Scottish Blackface will, or would a Scotch Lleyn cross manage the harshness of the hill in winter. The reason I ask is that I intend to keep a constant flock on the mountain as well as a flock in the fields. That's more than two questions :)

    The Lleyn are meant to be able to look after themselves well enough, I'm trying some with a one of my own Vendeen rams this year. Anyone had any experience with crossing them with the Vendeen?


  • #41
    joe35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭joe35


    I taught the lleyn x horny were ment to give a small offspring not good for either breeding or factory. I asked a few Q's about this a couple of years ago and was put off. How are the fairing out? I did say a mayo horned. Maybe a bigger horned ewe would be better.


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  • #42
    eire23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭eire23


    joe35 wrote: »
    I taught the lleyn x horny were ment to give a small offspring not good for either breeding or factory. I asked a few Q's about this a couple of years ago and was put off. How are the fairing out? I did say a mayo horned. Maybe a bigger horned ewe would be better.

    Had them crossed with a mayo horny here. Used a wicklow cheviot before the lleyn and went back to using a wicklow cheviot the last few years. In general they were two small, have maybe 20 left but these were the best of them and culled of the rest. Its a bit like the lleyn ewes themselves, in general their a bit small...imo. im trying to breed them as strong as possible. But thats just my opinion!


  • #43
    arctictree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Lads, I have a very big lleyn terminal Ram that i used last year and just looking at him there, he looks very unfit. Maybe I'm feeding him too much? Give him a handful of nuts daily. He's about to serve 70 Ewes, should I be worried? Would it be a good idea to get a ram lamb to clean up after him just in case?


  • #44
    Cran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Cran


    arctictree wrote: »
    Lads, I have a very big lleyn terminal Ram that i used last year and just looking at him there, he looks very unfit. Maybe I'm feeding him too much? Give him a handful of nuts daily. He's about to serve 70 Ewes, should I be worried? Would it be a good idea to get a ram lamb to clean up after him just in case?

    Would you trust one ram? I wouldn't can go infertile any raise in body temp, lameness or infection etc


  • #45
    Dickie10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    i tried the lleyn on various ewes, i find horny ewes too small. the lleyn crossed with a strong big suffolk ewe leaves a lovely speckled brown face ewe of medium size. it also puts a great bit of life into suffolk ewe and thier offspring. i find the llyn crossed onto a big cheviot ewe as my favourite cross. the docility of the llyn and its smaller size make the cheviot much more manageable also adds prolifiacy.strongly thinking of trying out a bluefaced leicster on llyn ewes


  • #46
    Green farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    As I'm learning more about the breed, there appears to be a few different types and variation in the breed. Small , medium and large sized . All have different characteristics. The small ones can go short very fast, long ones which add length but can get too leggy and hard to fatten. I'm trying the medium type ram at the moment, which I'm hoping will fatten abit easier and give reasonable working sized ewes.


  • #47
    arctictree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    i tried the lleyn on various ewes, i find horny ewes too small. the lleyn crossed with a strong big suffolk ewe leaves a lovely speckled brown face ewe of medium size. it also puts a great bit of life into suffolk ewe and thier offspring. i find the llyn crossed onto a big cheviot ewe as my favourite cross. the docility of the llyn and its smaller size make the cheviot much more manageable also adds prolifiacy.strongly thinking of trying out a bluefaced leicster on llyn ewes

    A big cheviott Ram got at some of my Llyen Ewes a few years ago. Lambs were lovely. Great shape and thrive.


  • #48
    Dickie10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    yes lovely cross. must put up a picture of them


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