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The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 17-07-2017 02:42PM

Looks like Cousins and the Skins are not going to reach an agreement before the trade deadline today. WE'll be on the hook for $34million next season more than likely to keep him, and that's just for a year. With San Fran, Arizona, Cleveland and possibly the Saints all looking for Qb's next year is it madness not to sign Kirk up to a long term deal?

jack presley · 17-07-2017 03:04PM

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Looks like Cousins and the Skins are not going to reach an agreement before the trade deadline today. WE'll be on the hook for $34million next season more than likely to keep him, and that's just for a year. With San Fran, Arizona, Cleveland and possibly the Saints all looking for Qb's next year is it madness not to sign Kirk up to a long term deal?

Im not basing this on anything but my instinct is that he wants out and that was his position all along. So unless they offered him ridiculous money which they were never going to, he was never going to sign. It'll probably leak at some stage but I'd love to hear what they did offer him.

So next year some other team will have his great stats from his own goal line to the opposition 20 and then settle for FGs.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 17-07-2017 03:16PM

Are we not being a little harsh on Cousins? We haven't got a better option and there isn't many quality Qb's out there to replace him with.

The offensive co-ordinators have to take some of the abuse. We constantly did the same thing at the 20, go to Reed. Or run, poorly. Yes Cousins made some bad throws and poor reads but he also made some great throws through the year.

Cousins wanted to sign last year, they didn't offer it and he's waiting now. He'll get a big pay day regardless.

Is he the answer? I don't know but he's better than a lot of other guys out there. Probably few Qb's that are as divisive as Cousins with regard to his ability.

Morrison J · 17-07-2017 07:57PM

Cousins is definitely good enough for me. We ****ed it when we didn't give him a contract last summer, not this one. Could have got him at 20 odd mill a year but weren't willing to stump up the money. Will be our loss and probably San Fran's gain this time next year.

jack presley · 17-07-2017 09:09PM

Morrison J wrote: »

Cousins is definitely good enough for me. We ****ed it when we didn't give him a contract last summer, not this one. Could have got him at 20 odd mill a year but weren't willing to stump up the money. Will be our loss and probably San Fran's gain this time next year.

In one of those 'cut off your nose to spite your face' scenarios, I'm kind of glad they didn't pay him what he was looking for. Yeah, he's good and the Redskins are going to be screwed next year without him and having no one else to replace him with, but there's no way he should be paid what he's looking for. He's not a top 10 QB and don't think he ever will be.

Just read the team statement that they offered him the highest guaranteed money for a QB ever ($53m) but he refused saying he wants to pay on a one year deal - code for "I want the hell out of here next season".

I hope he proves me wrong with a great season this year but it wouldn't surprise me if we get the same huge stat numbers but no end result.

Foxtrol · 17-07-2017 11:53PM

jack presley wrote: »

In one of those 'cut off your nose to spite your face' scenarios, I'm kind of glad they didn't pay him what he was looking for. Yeah, he's good and the Redskins are going to be screwed next year without him and having no one else to replace him with, but there's no way he should be paid what he's looking for. He's not a top 10 QB and don't think he ever will be.

Just read the team statement that they offered him the highest guaranteed money for a QB ever ($53m) but he refused saying he wants to pay on a one year deal - code for "I want the hell out of here next season".

I hope he proves me wrong with a great season this year but it wouldn't surprise me if we get the same huge stat numbers but no end result.

That is pure spin from the Redskins, they offered him pretty much the minimum guaranteed money they possibly could without looking totally ridiculous.

It is only $29m in guaranteed money more than the franchise tag that he will get this year anyway. That number is practically the transition tag he could be placed on next year, which barring something drastic is the minimum he can expect for 2018.

I'd suspect if they offered him that contract last summer he would have taken it but now the redskins have lost all their leverage.

jack presley · 18-07-2017 07:44AM

Yeah spin alright (I was writing the post when the press release was released).

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 18-07-2017 09:59AM

jack presley wrote: »

Yeah spin alright (I was writing the post when the press release was released).

Bit of spin from both. Regardless he will want a big season as will the Redskins. This could be a good year for us but a really tough division that got tougher in the off season with both the Giants and Eagles getting some significant off season signings.

jack presley · 19-07-2017 09:34AM

He's staying in DC until the Lord tells him otherwise apparently.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 19-07-2017 02:40PM

Terrell Pryor looks a serious athlete in the workouts i've seen posted by the Redskins so far. Some beautiful catches added to serious vertical jumps. I wonder how he stacks up as a WR on route running and cuts.

jack presley · 30-07-2017 07:09PM

Probably a long shot to make the roster anyway but Keith Marshall is done for the year.

He missed all of last year (his rookie year) so 2 years in the league and he hasn't made it past training camp yet. Gotta feel for him as this'll probably be the end of his chances of making a roster.

4 days into Training camp and Junior Gallette is still standing so there's that!

jack presley · 11-08-2017 08:41PM

Trent Murphy done for the year with torn MCL & ACL. Was already going to miss the first 4 games with a PED suspension but the rest of the games can be tacked onto that now.

The only surprise is that it wasn't Junior Gallette.

gerryfed · 11-08-2017 09:09PM

jack presley wrote: »

Trent Murphy done for the year with torn MCL & ACL. Was already going to miss the first 4 games with a PED suspension but the rest of the games can be tacked onto that now.

The only surprise is that it wasn't Junior Gallette.

If/When JG goes down hurt for the year, I'm going to blame all your posts for jynxing him

jack presley · 11-08-2017 09:11PM

gerryfed wrote: »

If/When JG goes down hurt for the year, I'm going to blame all your posts for jynxing him

It's not IF, it's WHEN...!!!

(and I'm hoping that by constantly referring to it, the reverse jinx will be in play - but I've probably just negated that now. Damn, those football Gods are hard to please!).

gerryfed · 11-08-2017 09:14PM

jack presley wrote: »

It's not IF, it's WHEN...!!!

(and I'm hoping that by constantly referring to it, the reverse jinx will be in play - but I've probably just negated that now. Damn, those football Gods are hard to please!).

Imagine he stays fit though... IMAGINE :eek:

And returns to similar form to a few years ago... A man can dream eh?!

jack presley · 11-08-2017 09:20PM

I know it was only pre-season, and week 1 of pre-season too with scrubs playing for the most part but I was hoping to see at least some semblance of a run game last night.

What annoyed me most last season (apart from 80 yard drives ending up with FG attempts - good for Kirk's stats but not good for getting wins!) were the amount of runs that were stopped for no gain or small 1 yard gains and that's the area I'm hoping to see massive improvement this season.

gerryfed · 11-08-2017 09:24PM

Won't have a chance to watch it till later/tomorrow, but the reports and stats didn't read too well alright! Heard there was a Perine fumble in there too

and Fat Rob getting blown up behind the line. Not a great start by the sounds of it but let's not panic just yet...

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 14-08-2017 10:39AM

Its only preseason .. keep repeating until game 1!!!

We look shockingly bad at times. Regardless of it only being preseason though.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 07:54PM

New season, same issues.

No run game and can't get off the field on third downs (even third and longs).

Edit- ok they got a stop there.

Morrison J · 10-09-2017 07:59PM

Uninspiring enough stuff so far alright. Zach Brown looks like a player though.

I have no idea why we have Ryan Grant ahead of Doctson on the depth chart.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 08:06PM

Morrison J wrote: »

I have no idea why we have Ryan Grant ahead of Doctson on the depth chart.

Someone gave him a high five and he's day-to-day with a sore wrist*

* may or may not be true.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 08:07PM

Cousins going all RGIII too. Gonna get himself killed.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 08:34PM

I was just going to complain about drives endibg up with FGs (just like last year) but then THAT happens.

Morrison J · 10-09-2017 08:41PM

Secondary has been really good today. Breeland, Norman, Fuller, Swearinger all impressive.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 08:43PM

Morrison J wrote: »

Secondary has been really good today. Breeland, Norman, Fuller, Swearinger all impressive.

True. Front 7 have had a couple of moments too but overall have been poor. I know Wentz is slippery but he's gotten out of trouble too many times.

Morrison J · 10-09-2017 08:46PM

jack presley wrote: »

True. Front 7 have had a couple of moments too but overall have been poor. I know Wentz is slippery but he's gotten out of trouble too many times.

A few in the front 7 not turning up. Kerrigan, Smith, Brown have done ok to be fair.

Pity the offense is struggling so much because the D has done their job pretty well overall. Do think we lack a few weapons now that Jackson and Garcon are gone. If Doctson isn't going to step up we look very weak.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 08:55PM

Time for Kirk to earn his salary.

I think I wrote the same about this time in week 17 last year and he came out and threw the ball straight to the NYG defender.

Hopefully a different outcome this time.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 09:00PM

jack presley wrote: »

Time for Kirk to earn his salary.

I think I wrote the same about this time in week 17 last year and he came out and threw the ball straight to the NYG defender.

Hopefully a different outcome this time.

Ah well.

Morrison J · 10-09-2017 09:01PM

That is a horrible call ****ing hell. Clearly going forward.

jack presley · 10-09-2017 09:11PM

Morrison J wrote: »

That is a horrible call ****ing hell. Clearly going forward.

Probably just saved us the heartbreak of the drive coming up short anyway.

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