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keith_d99 · 17-08-2017 03:38PM

Hi all,

I am looking for ideas for a wood store/shed

I have been storing the wood on a pallet covered with tapaulin ... but like something more permanent

Have a detached house with room on both sides against the boundary walls.

Thanks in advance!
Keith.

amargar · 17-08-2017 03:46PM

Hi,

I moved to a new house, it has a back boiler stove that's supposed to heat the rads too.

When we tried it with a really big fire there was barely any heating coming out of it into the room, and the rads were barely hot (it took ages to get slightly warm)

Could this be a problem with the installation?

It's similar to this one:
http://heatdesign.ie/heat-design-18kw-insert-boiler#.WZWr73d96Js

Skippy along · 17-08-2017 10:51PM

Ok got chimney cleaned pretty stuffed so glad I got that done.. He tells me new regs out now says no 5" flue liner anymore must be 6".. Shop where i purchased the stove and kit supplied me with a 5“ inch flexi flue liner.. Bit of a dilemma here..

smelly sock · 17-08-2017 10:52PM

Can a boiler stove be plumbed to an existing back boiler?

Forge83 · 17-08-2017 11:18PM

Skippy along wrote: »

Getting a Henley arklow 7kw stove with flue liner etc installed next week, would it be a good idea to get the chimney cleaned beforehand thanks

The Flue liner has to be cleaned before a liner is fitted.
Has the installer not asked you this or offered to clean it if it's a service they supply.

Forge83 · 17-08-2017 11:21PM

Skippy along wrote: »

Ok got chimney cleaned pretty stuffed so glad I got that done.. He tells me new regs out now says no 5" flue liner anymore must be 6".. Shop where i purchased the stove and kit supplied me with a 5“ inch flexi flue liner.. Bit of a dilemma here..

This is not true for Ireland. 5" Flexi can still be used.

Skippy along · 17-08-2017 11:46PM

Forge83 wrote: »

The Flue liner has to be cleaned before a liner is fitted.
Has the installer not asked you this or offered to clean it if it's a service they supply.

Installer never asked but to be fair i thought it good practice to have it done myself

Skippy along · 17-08-2017 11:49PM

Forge83 wrote: »

This is not true for Ireland. 5" Flexi can still be used.

hmm.. he also mentioned the stove supplier should have given me a carbon monoxide alarm as well included in the deal under new regs

Kemp101 · 18-08-2017 12:43AM

Hi there. In middle of new build and am installing boru 600i double sided insert non boiler and a insert 400i. The builders built the hearth to the dimensions of the fiachra insert but this was changed to the 400i due to the fiachra not being available with central air. (House is airtight) my question is will the 400i fit into the constructed opening as it is 50mm more in depth than the Fiachra ?
Also do I need to fit flexi flue in a new build? I can't see the reason why I would need to.
Thanks for the replies.

correction · 18-08-2017 08:50AM

Hello all.

I'm replacing a wood burner with an oil stove (hopefully anyway). The current stove is set into a gap in the wall, and the top flue goes directly up into the chimney, but the new oil stove will not fit in the same gap, I'm wondering will it still be possible to fit a stove with a top flue even though I'll have to bring it off at a right angle? Will the fact it's an oil stove have any affect on this? Or am I better off making sure I get a stove with a back flue as the one I'm currently looking at is top only. Any help appreciated, thanks.

Forge83 · 19-08-2017 08:59PM

Skippy along wrote: »

hmm.. he also mentioned the stove supplier should have given me a carbon monoxide alarm as well included in the deal under new regs

The stove supplier should have tried to sell you the carbon Alarms x 2 but it is the installers responsibility to ensure they are fitted with the stove.

logistic · 21-08-2017 11:48AM

jaffa20 wrote: »

Hi all, does anyone have Vitae 6kw installed into existing fireplace? I got a quote to install including lining chimney etc for 1700euro and i'm tempted. I think maybe this stove would look better with fireplace removed as it's quote a modern stove whereas my fireplace is is victorian period style.

Don’t have one yet but I’m in the processing of getting a stove and have been offered a Vitae 6kw or Stovax Riva 40 or something in the Henley range equivalent to the others.
PM me where you got that quote from.
I’d be interested to hear if others would go for Vitae, Riva, Henley or an alternative? or if you have either of these and your feedback on them.

Gastric Apple · 23-08-2017 10:52AM

Hi all,

I'm looking to get a stove built in to our house. There's an existing chimney breast there that's been bricked over by the previous owner for an electric fire to sit in front of it. We want our stove to sit into the fireplace so will have to get the height changed and supported. We got quoted a price today of €3,500 for everything fitted. Would this be about right? The price includes the stove, hearth, stove pipe, flexible flue kit, brick chamber kit and sleeper.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Forge83 · 23-08-2017 07:42PM

Gastric Apple wrote: »

Hi all,

I'm looking to get a stove built in to our house. There's an existing chimney breast there that's been bricked over by the previous owner for an electric fire to sit in front of it. We want our stove to sit into the fireplace so will have to get the height changed and supported. We got quoted a price today of €3,500 for everything fitted. Would this be about right? The price includes the stove, hearth, stove pipe, flexible flue kit, brick chamber kit and sleeper.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

What's the stove? This is the biggest price variable part.

Gastric Apple · 23-08-2017 08:21PM

Forge83 wrote: »

What's the stove? This is the biggest price variable part.

It's a Heritage Ashford 7.5KW Non Boiler. I checked the price of this online and it's roughly €600?

Forge83 · 23-08-2017 08:28PM

Gastric Apple wrote: »

It's a Heritage Ashford 7.5KW Non Boiler. I checked the price of this online and it's roughly €600?

What size hearth? What material?
Is the house a single or two storey?
Does the price include plastering the outside of the chimney breast?
Carbon Monoxide Alarms or room air vent included?
Rubble taken away?

Gastric Apple · 23-08-2017 08:46PM

Forge83 wrote: »

What size hearth? What material?
Is the house a single or two storey?
Does the price include plastering the outside of the chimney breast?
Carbon Monoxide Alarms or room air vent included?
Rubble taken away?

It's a slate hearth, don't know the exact dimensions but it won't be massive. Two storey house, will be sitting in an existing chimney breast however the lintel needs to be raised to accommodate the stove. Price includes all fitting and materials etc. Doesn't include Carbon Monoxide Alarm and the room already has an air vent. Rubble will be going in a skip that we will be purchasing.

Forge83 · 23-08-2017 09:24PM

Gastric Apple wrote: »

It's a slate hearth, don't know the exact dimensions but it won't be massive. Two storey house, will be sitting in an existing chimney breast however the lintel needs to be raised to accommodate the stove. Price includes all fitting and materials etc. Doesn't include Carbon Monoxide Alarm and the room already has an air vent. Rubble will be going in a skip that we will be purchasing.

Seems a bit over priced.
If Dublin, only slightly over priced as labour/shop rates would be higher than elsewhere.
If elsewhere I would say it's steep.
However I have not seen the job so could be more complicated than I am assuming.

Gastric Apple · 23-08-2017 10:28PM

Forge83 wrote: »

Seems a bit over priced.
If Dublin, only slightly over priced as labour/shop rates would be higher than elsewhere.
If elsewhere I would say it's steep.
However I have not seen the job so could be more complicated than I am assuming.

Cheers for that. Trying fo find a stove fitter is proving a little difficult. I'll get another one out to the house to get another quote.

rcklap · 24-08-2017 12:25PM

Hi,

Looking for a ballpark price to have an old electric fire place and surround removed. Have a 6KW insert stove fitted and the fireplace replastered.

So no surround just plastered with an inset stove.

I also think I can keep my existing hearth as it is marble and suitable size wise.

Thank you.

Forge83 · 24-08-2017 08:35PM

rcklap wrote: »

Hi,

Looking for a ballpark price to have an old electric fire place and surround removed. Have a 6KW insert stove fitted and the fireplace replastered.

So no surround just plastered with an inset stove.

I also think I can keep my existing hearth as it is marble and suitable size wise.

Thank you.

You will get a decent 5kw Inset around €550.
A 6/7kw around €799.
Adapter,500mm straight & 45 if required Approx €100.
If you are Flexi lining the chimney which I would advise, scrap the above with a cost of €300 for a single story and €380 for a two story.
Labour including plastering depends where you are based but ballpark €550-€750 inc materials.

Note re hearth- If black granite it should have heat joints. Cream marble likewise but it will likely discolour.

rcklap · 25-08-2017 11:49AM

Forge83 wrote: »

If you are Flexi lining the chimney which I would advise, scrap the above with a cost of €300 for a single story and €380 for a two story.

Thanks for the reply, much appreciate. It's a bungalow so single story.

Can you please tell me why you recommend Flexi Lining. Thanks!

hopskipandjump · 26-08-2017 08:19PM

I'm looking at installing a stove with back boiler. My hotpress is located just behind fireplace and I have a suitable cylinder but I have a hideous fireplace that needs to go! The stoves I'm looking at are the Stanley Lismore and the Boru 600ib. Does anyone have any opinion on either? They are both roughly the same price, the Lismore is a little more expensive but I think it comes with parts that I'd otherwise have to buy with any other stove. I have 10 single rads excluding the sitting room, 7 of which are fairly large, 3 small. My room measurements are 4800 x 4000 x 2620 high.

Many thanks

MeAuldSegotia · 28-08-2017 09:47AM

Could anyone comment on the ABX stoves for example-
http://stoneandstoves.ie/product/4kw-arktis-metal-plate-grey/

I haven't heard of this brand so don't know if they are a 'good' brand?
They don't seem to have chimneys in the pictures and talk about-

"They are designed for low energy houses with transporting combustion air from outside the building.

Possibility to use the top and rear outlet for the flue."

We are looking for a room heater only and 4/5kw max to heat our sitting room in winter.

This is a photo of the fireplace it will go into.

The photo is from during the building work- we removed the existing fireplace leaving just the hole- it is all leveled off and tiled up to the wall .
Initially I thought we would put an insert stove in but I would like the effect of the protruding stove as a feature but don't like traditional looking stoves particularly as we need such a small heat output the small ones all look at little dinky!

Any suggestions on what would work in that space?

funkey_monkey · 02-09-2017 10:35PM

Hi, we are installing a stove in a new build and I'm looking for some design advice.
The stove is to be located in a purpose built corner alcove approx 5ft high and 3ft wide.

We are looking for suggestions on how to finish the surround. The stove will set set on a plinth approx 9 inches high. We have been thinking about tiles, but there is disagreement on whether to put a tile surround around the front of the alcove. There is concern that a tile surround night look a bit dated. The thought is the tiles will be a marble effect.

Any suggestions (and images) to show what we could do here?

From looking on Google most corner stoves are not put into alcoves and have an exposed pipe to the ceiling.

What are peoples thoughts?

Thanks.

Surfn · 04-09-2017 10:39AM

i have a 45 degree elbow of the stove with inspection plate on it, does anybody know where i can get the paper gasket for the inspection plate. if i had a sheet of the gasket material i could make it myself. thanks

vicwatson · 04-09-2017 05:15PM

Hi all, I'm a newbie to this thread so go easy !!

Was looking at a boru croi beag and the dims are h 600mm w 545, the opening on the existing open fireplace is h 500 w 450 so am in trouble.

Are there any other insert stoves that will fit into that opening?

An alternative would be take out the fire surround which is cast iron and have someone cut it to give the extra space needed - is that doable I wonder??

Thanks for any advice in advance

evolving_doors · 05-09-2017 10:50PM

Ugh... speaking of boru croi beags.... i cracked the flipping stove glass glass on one just now.
Any cheapo shops around Dublin that'll do the auld robex glass?

Also.... how do you not cracking the glass when twisting in the screws? There's new rope around the glass so want it to be somewhat sealed tight.... thing is though the nuts are very hard to screw in easily and takes a bit of force to get them to twist on the threads.

sarahn11 · 06-09-2017 03:07PM

Hi - Just looking for an opinion.

We recently purchased a Stanley Oisin, got a plumber out to quote for installation, he said we would need the flue kit + a hearth (he had mentioned during the call out that he could source one for 80e). He came back with a total price of 600 for installation - this seems high to me considering the Stanley itself only cost 450e!

Could anyone advise me on whether or not this price is reasonable?

Thanks
:cool:

cranefly · 07-09-2017 01:09AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

Ugh... speaking of boru croi beags.... i cracked the flipping stove glass glass on one just now.
Any cheapo shops around Dublin that'll do the auld robex glass?

Also.... how do you not cracking the glass when twisting in the screws? There's new rope around the glass so want it to be somewhat sealed tight.... thing is though the nuts are very hard to screw in easily and takes a bit of force to get them to twist on the threads.

Cant help with the stove glass, but i think ebay would have a good selection of stove glass, although most will not deliver to ireland, I got some glass for my esse 350gs from ebay, one of the few that will deliver to ireland, but like you, when i went to fit it, the screws were fairly stiff to screw back on, wd 50 made things a bit easier, one mistake i made was using a wratchet to tighten screws, so as i was tightening them, i did not realize i was over tightening, and bang, big crack in the glass, the pressure on the screws was the same all the way down the bolt. so i did not know when i was reaching the glass, anyway the glass cracked in half, i should have used a spanner that way i could have seen when i was reaching the glass.
I knew when i got the glass their was something not right, it was not toughened glass, when i tried to get the right size glass cut locally, everyone said it is impossible to toughen heat resistant stove glass, I rang esse in england and they said all their stove glass is toughened, and their replacement glass is the exact same as they use in their stoves, so i ordered direct from esse, as soon i got it i could tell it was way better quality, even just tapping it with my knuckle, their was no hollow sound to it like the first one that cracked, luckily everything went ok when i fit this one, this is first time in 5 years since i got the stove, that the glass needed changing, why nobody in cork could get toughened stove glass cut to my size beggars belief, one glass company in mallow told me their is no such thing as toughened stove glass.

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