Season 7 Episode 5 "Eastwatch" - "Non book readers"

5star02707 · 14-08-2017 09:48AM

Vicxas wrote: »

2 questions.

Rhaegar did what!?

And what was on the note Arya found?

Rhaegar had an annulment from his previous wedding, then wed again

(Lyanna Stark) which makes Jon snow not a bastard but a legitimate son

Arya found the note where Cersei forced Sansa to swear allegiance with Joffrey

hefferboi · 14-08-2017 09:51AM

Jon Snow is the true king.

Dany is the sexy aunt he wants to bang.

klose · 14-08-2017 10:09AM

Oh you just know the next episode will be a spectacle with the group heading north. Thought the scene of them walking into the blizzard was epic, what a team!

Littlefinger is obviously hoping arya kicks up a scene with sansa over the letter, I couldn't bare to see Littlefinger get his way. It's cool how all the story lines are merging, even sam is heading north now.

EagererBeaver · 14-08-2017 10:49AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

I don't understand this viewpoint. Jon beheaded Janos Slynt for refusing an order and hanged a child for 'murder'. Dany executes a treasonous lord who refused to submit or take the black and she's the bad guy?

Why is it "murder" rather then murder?

It was clearly murder and the little **** partook in it.

homerun_homer · 14-08-2017 11:27AM

Good episode but so much happened so fast that it's not in keeping with the usual pace of earlier seasons. It didn't mean I didn't enjoy it but this season has had a few moments where characters reuniting are not landing emotionally or as dramatically as they should. Tyrion meeting Jamie wasn't as good as I'd have anticipated. Jorah's back and now he's leaving his queen already:eek: Ser Friendzone, I'm shocked!

Oh and Jamie's survival at the very start was another letdown in the episode. I know it was an hour length but it would have been good opening with a bit of struggle for Bronn trying to save him and get him to land while hiding from the enemy.

Varik · 14-08-2017 11:30AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

I don't understand this viewpoint. Jon beheaded Janos Slynt for refusing an order and hanged a child for 'murder'. Dany executes a treasonous lord who refused to submit or take the black and she's the bad guy?

She wasn't his Queen, she just executed a prisoner of war which from Robb beheading his banner men for the same and the how the northern army reacted to the prisoners executed in harrenhal isn't view as an OK thing to do.

Inspector Coptoor · 14-08-2017 11:40AM

Decent episode in the main but I agree with previous posters about the pace being almost too fast for some characters.

I was really hoping John would form a bond with Rhaegal and fly him for even one lap around Dragonstone with a view to eventually flying him to the wall.

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 11:44AM

Varik wrote: »

She wasn't his Queen, she just executed a prisoner of war which from Robb beheading his banner men for the same and the how the northern army reacted to the prisoners executed in harrenhal isn't view as an OK thing to do.

Yes she was. Olenna Tyrrell had pledged to her and by extension all her bannermen too. He was a traitor whatever way you look at it. His "You're a furriner" defence was as flimsy as his armour was against dragon fire.

Varik · 14-08-2017 11:55AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Yes she was. Olenna Tyrrell had pledged to her and by extension all her bannermen too. He was a traitor whatever way you look at it. His "You're a furriner" defence was as flimsy as his armour was against dragon fire.

Olenna Tyrrell also pledged to the younger baratheon who'd no claim, and then Joffery (who she killed).

Also after Robert rebellion they pledged to him.

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 12:04PM

Varik wrote: »

Olenna Tyrrell also pledged to the younger baratheon who'd no claim, and then Joffery (who she killed).

That was actually Mace Tyrrell.

But so what? You take your chances with your allegiances knowing what the cost of failure is. Tarly's stubborn refusal to bend the knee to Daenerys was almost comically misguided. He was easily persuaded to pledge to the Lannisters, despite (as his own son said) the horror of fighting and killing people he would have known all his life.

To allow him to openly reject her and let him live would have been the stupidest thing Daenerys could have done.

PTH2009 · 14-08-2017 12:40PM

Solid enough episode

Saw the preview for next week OMG

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 12:40PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Solid enough episode

Saw the preview for next week OMG

Kirby · 14-08-2017 12:42PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I've been one of the biggest defenders of the fast travel but I think there was a little too much in that episode. Pace needs to pick up since we're approaching the end but there is such a thing as going too fast.

Tyrion, for instance, went from the Reach to Dragonstone to King's Landing and back to Dragonstone in that episode.

Dragonstone is actually really close to Kings Landing by ship believe it or not. If you look at a map they are right next to each other. That makes geographical sense.

Jon and his band being seemingly able to teleport from Dragonstone to Eastwatch is ****ing ridiculous though. Its about ten times the distance.

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 12:49PM

Kirby wrote: »

Dragonsreach is actually really close to Kings Landing by ship believe it or not.

He's talking about The Reach which is where Highgarden is. But Tyrion wasn't actually there anyway. The battle was at the Blackwater Rush which is just south west of Kings Landing.

And obviously not far from Dragonstone either.

Subacio · 14-08-2017 12:55PM

Seems to me that the dragon got the whiff of Targaryen from Jon Snow.

Kirby · 14-08-2017 12:56PM

Subacio wrote: »

Seems to me that the dragon got the whiff of Targaryen from Jon Snow.

What gave you that idea?

rossie1977 · 14-08-2017 12:58PM

Highgarden is approx 760 miles from Kings landing according to those that have worked out the distances. That's three times as far as Cork to Belfast for those wondering

krustydoyle · 14-08-2017 12:59PM

Why didn't John bring any dragon glass with him?? It wasn't shown as they were leaving..

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 01:07PM

krustydoyle wrote: »

Why didn't John bring any dragon glass with him?? It wasn't shown as they were leaving..

Jorah helped load a box into one of the boats. I assumed that's what it contained.

J. Marston · 14-08-2017 01:08PM

krustydoyle wrote: »

Why didn't John bring any dragon glass with him?? It wasn't shown as they were leaving..

They were in the caves/mines when he met Gendry, wasn't he? I assume they were bringing some on to the boats from there.

maudgonner · 14-08-2017 01:13PM

Nice to see Kevin Eldon has survived this long. Well, had survived...

Liam Cunningham must be slipping the script writers brown envelopes, he seems to be getting all the best lines these days. Although they did call him old a number of times in this ep :pac:

'Nothing fúcks you harder than time'.

Nice scene between Gendry and Jon Snow, their relationship looks like it will echo Robert & Ned's friendship.

NinjaTruncs · 14-08-2017 01:15PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Jorah helped load a box into one of the boats. I assumed that's what it contained.

I would assume it was already loaded onto the ship before they left. But if that box was the sum of all their work in the mine, it's either the hardest material to mine or it was them spending all their time drawing on the cave walls.

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 01:19PM

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

I would assume it was already loaded onto the ship before they left. But if that box was the sum of all their work in the mine, it's either the hardest material to mine or it was them spending all their time drawing on the cave walls.

Doubtless. But having a shot of a box of something being loaded carefully would be designed to answer the question the poster asked.

EagererBeaver · 14-08-2017 01:24PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Doubtless. But having a shot of a box of something being loaded carefully would be designed to answer the question the poster asked.

I think it was fairly implicit and didn't need to called out. They spoke with about it a couple of weeks ago, they've been mining the stuff for months. They're hardly just going to sail off without it ffs.

lazybones32 · 14-08-2017 01:25PM

Subacio wrote: »

Seems to me that the dragon got the whiff of Targaryen from Jon Snow.

Going by the long, lingering looks exchanged between Daeny and Jon over the last 2 episodes, i'd be surprised if drogon didn't get the whiff of Daeny from Jon's fingers...☺
...her heart cries "Jorah" but her loins yearn to be filled with Snow.

The romantic angle and the somewhat rivalry between Ser and Snow annoyed me, as did the miraculous escape of bronn and jaime (who entered the lake by drogon and emerged a few hundred metres away) but those 2 aside, i liked the episode. LF is playing the antagonism Arya has for Sansa but i'd prefer if they revealed his manipulation later.

CMOTDibbler · 14-08-2017 01:26PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I think it was fairly implicit and didn't need to called out. They spoke with about it a couple of weeks ago, they've been mining the stuff for months. They're hardly just going to sail off without it ffs.

I replied to a question another poster asked. Maybe there were pop tarts in the box. :rolleyes:

J. Marston · 14-08-2017 01:31PM

The look on Dany's face when Jon didn't agree how beautiful her babies were was hilarious.

golfball37 · 14-08-2017 01:34PM

My only quibble is Ser Jorah calling Dany Your Grace rather than Khaleesi.

marcus001 · 14-08-2017 01:41PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

I don't understand this viewpoint. Jon beheaded Janos Slynt for refusing an order and hanged a child for 'murder'. Dany executes a treasonous lord who refused to submit or take the black and she's the bad guy?

Treasonous? She's an invader. It wasn't normal in medieval and ancient times to execute nobles, exile was far more common. Dany is Stalin.

Unshelved · 14-08-2017 01:42PM

The Actor, Kevin Eldon - again? A bit careless using a well-known face in two different roles.

Season 7 Episode 5 "Eastwatch" - "Non book readers"

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