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Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:22AM

ghostdancer wrote: »

all sorts of crazy sh*t does end up there. if you look through the lists you'll see loads of clashfinders that people started making that they didn't update that turned out to be completely wrong.
the Glastonbury one was laughably wrong and full of incorrect acts, let alone times and stages before the times were officially released.
here it was before the lineup was even announced, loads of these acts didn't even play, they were all just guesses based on who was touring: https://clashfinder.com/s/g2017/?rev=26

here it is after the initial lineup announcement and before the times, loads of these acts played different stages because again, they're all just user guesses: https://clashfinder.com/s/g2017/?rev=114

it's only reliable at the end because festival goers update it themselves when things change. (and only then sometimes, there's plenty of clashfinders for smaller festivals that no-one bothers to update if things change).

there's one person who made the site, he doesn't update any of the times. it's up to people to update them. several posters on here update the EP one each year when the times come out.

the site does not have "monitors". you can go create an Electric Picnic one now with Ramstein playing every stage if you wish and it will stay there forever unless someone is bothered changing it.

As I've posted twice the advice from Clashfinder is always to wait until the last minute as stuff gets updated.

And of course they have monitors. It's like saying that Wikipedia don't have an owner nor staff to monitor stuff. But hey, feel free to muck about and put Bowie down as appearing on the Sunday night pre-Duran. It'll go up, but it'll be removed pre-fest.

It's a matter of trust. I have faith in EP to always put on a great fest. And similarly in Clashfinder to have accurate times. Neither have let me down thus far.

ghostdancer · 10-08-2017 11:25AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As I've posted twice the advice from Clashfinder is always to wait until the last minute as stuff gets updated.
It's a matter of trust. I have faith in EP to always put on a great fest. And similarly in Clashfinder to have accurate times. Neither have let me down thus far.

no, stuff sometimes gets updated when people on boards and elsewhere bother to do it. you can see in the revisions for the last few years the names of several posters on here who have updated the clashfinders as times and stages are released.
Clashfinder don't update anything themselves.

e:

And of course they have monitors. It's like saying that Wikipedia don't have an owner nor staff to monitor stuff. But hey, feel free to muck about and put Bowie down as appearing on the Sunday night pre-Duran. It'll go up, but it'll be removed pre-fest.

they don't, it's 1 person (Halvin) who maintains the site but doesn't update the clashfinders. so nothing like Wikipedia.
there are multiple incorrect clashfinders on the site. here are 2 from Glastonbury this year alone:
https://clashfinder.com/s/glastofest2017/
https://clashfinder.com/s/glastonburyfestival2017/

of course Bowie would get removed because when the EP times are released, festival-goers will update it so that there's a usable one.

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:34AM

Sorry but that's incorrect man. The guys who run it rely on punters to edit the site but get involved if incorrect info is put up, as they did when some messy stuff was coming up for Glasto two years ago. They sent out a request to posters to not put down incorrect info then removed it. It operates in the same way as Wikip*dia and you're being naive if you believe they'd allow other to take full control of their site. It's a money-earner so why risk it?

Easy Rod · 10-08-2017 11:36AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As I've posted twice the advice from Clashfinder is always to wait until the last minute as stuff gets updated.

And of course they have monitors. It's like saying that Wikipedia don't have an owner nor staff to monitor stuff. But hey, feel free to muck about and put Bowie down as appearing on the Sunday night pre-Duran. It'll go up, but it'll be removed pre-fest.

It's a matter of trust. I have faith in EP to always put on a great fest. And similarly in Clashfinder to have accurate times. Neither have let me down thus far.

I'm going to go in and put Radiohead on the EP Clashfinder.

ghostdancer · 10-08-2017 11:37AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Sorry but that's incorrect man. The guys who run it rely on punters to edit the site but get involved if incorrect info is put up, as they did when some messy stuff was coming up for Glasto two years ago. They sent out a request to posters to not put down incorrect info then removed it. It operates in the same way as Wikip*dia and you're being naive if you believe they'd allow other to take full control of their site. It's a money-earner so why risk it?

they didn't remove anything, you can see in the history logs that it was normal users who did all that.
you clearly have absolutely no idea about the site or how it works.

maximoose · 10-08-2017 11:39AM

"Clashfinder relies on user-entered data. See something wrong? Fix it."

It says it right at the bottom of each event page.

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:43AM

ghostdancer wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As I've posted twice the advice from Clashfinder is always to wait until the last minute as stuff gets updated.
It's a matter of trust. I have faith in EP to always put on a great fest. And similarly in Clashfinder to have accurate times. Neither have let me down thus far.

no, stuff sometimes gets updated when people on boards and elsewhere bother to do it. you can see in the revisions for the last few years the names of several posters on here who have updated the clashfinders as times and stages are released.
Clashfinder don't update anything themselves.

e:

And of course they have monitors. It's like saying that Wikipedia don't have an owner nor staff to monitor stuff. But hey, feel free to muck about and put Bowie down as appearing on the Sunday night pre-Duran. It'll go up, but it'll be removed pre-fest.

they don't, it's 1 person (Halvin) who maintains the site but doesn't update the clashfinders. so nothing like Wikipedia.
there are multiple incorrect clashfinders on the site. here are 2 from Glastonbury this year alone:
https://clashfinder.com/s/glastofest2017/
https://clashfinder.com/s/glastonburyfestival2017/

of course Bowie would get removed because when the EP times are released, festival-goers will update it so that there's a usable one.

It was one guy in 2009. He's taken on more people since and they referred to the team in the plural for Glasto 2015.
But as before we'll see soon enough. I think we're boring the other posters with this disagreement so better to just await the official times in three weeks.

PabloAndRoy · 10-08-2017 11:43AM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Sorry but that's incorrect man. The guys who run it rely on punters to edit the site but get involved if incorrect info is put up, as they did when some messy stuff was coming up for Glasto two years ago. They sent out a request to posters to not put down incorrect info then removed it. It operates in the same way as Wikip*dia and you're being naive if you believe they'd allow other to take full control of their site. It's a money-earner so why risk it?

I don't think halvin over at clashfinder makes any money out of it. Its a labour of love for him and a sideline project to his day job. He asks for donations to pay for hosting costs as there is no advertising at all https://clashfinder.com/donate/ I have thrown in a few quid over the years. Not a "money-earner". Not wikipedia-like at all.

kg703 · 10-08-2017 11:44AM

Handbags away now and back to the upcoming weekend of the year......

Did anyone else see Rammestein are closing 3 nights in a row? Can't wait! Bang Bang!

:pac:

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:44AM

Easy Rod wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As I've posted twice the advice from Clashfinder is always to wait until the last minute as stuff gets updated.

And of course they have monitors. It's like saying that Wikipedia don't have an owner nor staff to monitor stuff. But hey, feel free to muck about and put Bowie down as appearing on the Sunday night pre-Duran. It'll go up, but it'll be removed pre-fest.

It's a matter of trust. I have faith in EP to always put on a great fest. And similarly in Clashfinder to have accurate times. Neither have let me down thus far.

I'm going to go in and put Radiohead on the EP Clashfinder.

That's cool. I'd suggested Bowie. It'll stay up for while but will be removed pre-fest. You can see it as a challenge to disrupt the site but it'll end up being accurate anyway unless there's some deliberate disruption which won't help any of us.

Thundercats Ho · 10-08-2017 11:45AM

Hopefully Jerry Fish announces soon, so we can leave the clashfinder chat behind us..

ghostdancer · 10-08-2017 11:46AM

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

I don't think halvin over at clashfinder makes any money out of it. Its a labour of love for him and a sideline project to his day job. He asks for donations to pay for hosting costs as there is no advertising at all https://clashfinder.com/donate/ I have thrown in a few quid over the years. Not a "money-earner". Not wikipedia-like at all.

yep, the site goes down every now and again when he runs out of money for hosting.
he used to post on efestivals every now and again too, seems like a nice guy.

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:47AM

ghostdancer wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Sorry but that's incorrect man. The guys who run it rely on punters to edit the site but get involved if incorrect info is put up, as they did when some messy stuff was coming up for Glasto two years ago. They sent out a request to posters to not put down incorrect info then removed it. It operates in the same way as Wikip*dia and you're being naive if you believe they'd allow other to take full control of their site. It's a money-earner so why risk it?

they didn't remove anything, you can see in the history logs that it was normal users who did all that.
you clearly have absolutely no idea about the site or how it works.

Ah hey man, no need for an argument. Clashfinder is run along Wiki*edia lines, there's much trust but they have to intervene if people muck about as you have with RTJ, etc. I'd just hope that people allow Clashfinder & posters to do their job and we'll end up again having the most accurate stage times list for EP 2017.

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 11:51AM

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Sorry but that's incorrect man. The guys who run it rely on punters to edit the site but get involved if incorrect info is put up, as they did when some messy stuff was coming up for Glasto two years ago. They sent out a request to posters to not put down incorrect info then removed it. It operates in the same way as Wikip*dia and you're being naive if you believe they'd allow other to take full control of their site. It's a money-earner so why risk it?

I don't think halvin over at clashfinder makes any money out of it. Its a labour of love for him and a sideline project to his day job. He asks for donations to pay for hosting costs as there is no advertising at all https://clashfinder.com/donate/ I have thrown in a few quid over the years. Not a "money-earner". Not wikipedia-like at all.

I agree that not a money earner but they need cash for costs. I've also thrown in cash as they've helped me out.

However Wiki*edia is run on exactly the same lines. It's non-profit and has posters edit info as well as the site staff checking stuff. Both have to monitor the site or their reputations get shredded.

Paddy2012 · 10-08-2017 11:57AM

Apparently Daughter were listed to play EP on ents24 before it was taken down again, maybe they're part of the next announcement

mutley18 · 10-08-2017 11:57AM

YEAH WHAT YER MAN SAID ABOUT CLASHFINDER I COMPLETELY AGREE, I WANT TO TAKE PART IN THIS, THE LONELINESS IS CRIPPLING...

roll · 10-08-2017 12:01PM

Paddy2012 wrote: »

Apparently Daughter were listed to play EP on ents24 before it was taken down again, maybe they're part of the next announcement

please make it so!

D.Q · 10-08-2017 12:03PM

Any chance of The Clashfinders playing the Saturday dance slot?

Poorside · 10-08-2017 12:13PM

D.Q wrote: »

Any chance of The Clashfinders playing the Saturday dance slot?

Along with Kicking Teenagers, that'd be daycent.

everlast75 · 10-08-2017 12:16PM

D.Q wrote: »

Any chance of The Clashfinders playing the Saturday dance slot?

They are on after The Chainsmokers..

mgkelly · 10-08-2017 12:22PM

Jerry Fish supposed to be today ,isn't it?

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 12:22PM

mgkelly wrote: »

Jerry Fish supposed to be today ,isn't it?

Yeah. Maybe on his Facebook page, but not there yet.

billybonkers · 10-08-2017 12:23PM

Who are The Clashfinders?

Seathrun66 · 10-08-2017 12:25PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Who are The Clashfinders?

An argumentative bunch of online posters from a small republic state on the western edge of Europe. Nashville C&W covers a speciality.

ghostdancer · 10-08-2017 12:25PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Who are The Clashfinders?

me and Seathrun66 doing battle raps

room_149 · 10-08-2017 12:27PM

ghostdancer wrote: »

me and Seethrun66 doing battle raps

Spokenword tent (aka Marty Mulligan's Mullingar Embassy) over at the Mindfield for this event perhaps?!

Easy Rod · 10-08-2017 12:28PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

That's cool. I'd suggested Bowie. It'll stay up for while but will be removed pre-fest. You can see it as a challenge to disrupt the site but it'll end up being accurate anyway unless there's some deliberate disruption which won't help any of us.

I think the point is that everything that's there now is "wild speculation". They have no inside sources it's just user edits taking a stab.

Looking at a clashfinder now and organising any sort of schedule for your festival is pointless.

I absolutely rely on it from the Wednesday pre-EP onwards.

D.Q · 10-08-2017 12:32PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

An argumentative bunch of online posters from a small republic state on the western edge of Europe. Nashville C&W covers a speciality.

I heard Halvin has been coming out for some encores on this tour.

GidCudi · 10-08-2017 12:36PM

D.Q wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

An argumentative bunch of online posters from a small republic state on the western edge of Europe. Nashville C&W covers a speciality.

I heard Halvin has been coming out for some encores on this tour.

Halvin Carris

mgkelly · 10-08-2017 01:02PM

GidCudi wrote: »

D.Q wrote: »

Seathrun66 wrote: »

An argumentative bunch of online posters from a small republic state on the western edge of Europe. Nashville C&W covers a speciality.

I heard Halvin has been coming out for some encores on this tour.

Halvin Carris

Very good! I do love me 'spoonerisms'! Drive my family mad with them - Com Truise, Wevie Stonder to name a couple that are actual artists!

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