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FAE 2017

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭MrSzyslak


    These were my main exam notes if they are any use.

    They are just some of the best solutions from the case studies organised as per the comp statement. After I identified my indicators I found a roughly similar solution in the notes to base my answer off. Obviously your answer needs to be completely based on the facts from the current case, but I found that having these made it way easier and quicker to structure the answer and know how much to write for each indicator. Then if I didn't have any solutions that were in anyway similar to the indicator in the exam, I knew the indicator was probably fairly off the wall so I didn't feel too bad making up complete crap. :)

    Thanks a lot for these :-)

    I am really pushing it, but you hardly have one for tax?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Daisymoo91


    Has anyone any advise on what order to answer the indicators in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭Humour Me


    My approach would be to do the FR indicators first as they could affect profit or raise audit or tax issues. After that I approach them in the order they appeared in the paper unless there is an indicator that I know I will have issues with and wil leave till last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Jsmac67


    My approach is answer whatever indicators will tell you most about the case first.

    I.e it's not much use listing due diligence procedures for a potential accquire without knowing what exactly the accquisition entails/things to look out for, which may be given by way of a npv calc or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    The feedback I got on the last Steps case said that I should do the indicators in order that they appear in the case study unless I have a good reason not to. I took that to mean that they should be in order unless there Indicator 5 would give me a good insight into Indicator 3, in which case I'd do the 5th indicator identified before the 3rd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    I just sat down and read the 2016 mock comp White Gold. 11 pages. 8 Appendices. Complex multinational structure. Unclear indicator direction. Fu*k off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 CAIgirl


    I just sat down and read the 2016 mock comp White Gold. 11 pages. 8 Appendices. Complex multinational structure. Unclear indicator direction. Fu*k off.

    That made me lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 dakerrymo


    I just sat down and read the 2016 mock comp White Gold. 11 pages. 8 Appendices. Complex multinational structure. Unclear indicator direction. Fu*k off.

    My god thank you, I'm here pulling my hair out trying to read it whilst trying to stay away from the draw of social media!! Waste of time??? Guess it's to 'start the cases' time for me.

    Can I also ask? Can anyone answer a lot of these indicators without their notes? Or is it a case of spot the indicator, refer to notes, structure answer and then write??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 CAIgirl


    dakerrymo wrote: »
    My god thank you, I'm here pulling my hair out trying to read it whilst trying to stay away from the draw of social media!! Waste of time??? Guess it's to 'start the cases' time for me.

    Can I also ask? Can anyone answer a lot of these indicators without their notes? Or is it a case of spot the indicator, refer to notes, structure answer and then write??


    For me its defo trying to find out what the hell the indicator is and look at the notes🙈 if a person can do it without looking at notes they deserve a medal😂🙈


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 dakerrymo


    CAIgirl wrote: »
    For me its defo trying to find out what the hell the indicator is and look at the notes🙈 if a person can do it without looking at notes they deserve a medal😂🙈



    Please tell me I'm not the only one hoping for a miracle and being able to pass these exams with two full hard weeks of work!!!! Has anyone ever heard of this miracle happening??? Please say Yes!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭jus_tin4


    I should have some. See attached.

    I've thrown in my APM notes too and a summary of all indicators asked in cases for both APM & FAE (except for anything post 2015)

    I have to say Atticus, Your notes have been an absolute life saver to me! Thanks a Million for share. You deserve to pass just on your notes alone!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭MrSzyslak


    I completed all 2016 and 2017 comp papers and they were so much more straightforward than the mocks.

    However I got stuck on two easy tax indicators. One was a tax comp 2016 and other was regarding capital allowances on 2017 paper.

    These are going back to CAP1 & 2 and I am aware of the cumulative principle, the thing is I did a masters and dont have any notes from back then.

    Not sure what is the best material to revise this for a quick refresher or even to have something to reference to in the exams. printing off cap1 and 2 notes online does not appeal to me.

    Is there a book or something that would be good for cover on cap1 and 2 tax? Not sure what happened my old materials


    Cheers for any help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 goroved


    MrSzyslak wrote: »
    Is there a book or something that would be good for cover on cap1 and 2 tax?

    Not sure about books, but I've attached my notes from CAP1 and CAP2 (which helped me pass first time). Hopefully they will be of some help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 CAIgirl


    What topics do people think have a higher chance of coming up? i really think marketing for bl was asked a lot previously. Think they will ask more hr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭MrSzyslak


    goroved wrote: »
    Not sure about books, but I've attached my notes from CAP1 and CAP2 (which helped me pass first time). Hopefully they will be of some help.

    Much appreciated, these are very well laid out, and will be a great refresher, must print them off and go through them.

    You hardly have something similar for Cap2 audit?:o

    My audit notes consist of a summary of auditing standard, two different audit programmes printed out and binded and a mish-mash of other hand outs, not ideal:(

    I watched all Sean Murrays lectures few months ago and think I have a solid grasps of standards and other audit programmes, but my actual procedures, controls and covering assertions work is still letting me down. Only BC in the interim test too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 goroved


    MrSzyslak wrote: »
    You hardly have something similar for Cap2 audit?:o

    I must admit, Audit was never my strongest subject :rolleyes: but I've attached my notes below.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭MrSzyslak


    goroved wrote: »
    I must admit, Audit was never my strongest subject :rolleyes: but I've attached my notes below.

    :D Thanks again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭heretothere


    CAIgirl wrote: »
    What topics do people think have a higher chance of coming up? i really think marketing for bl was asked a lot previously. Think they will ask more hr

    I would love to know what's coming up!! I think you're right marketing has come up a good bit. HR isn't that big, Paul Monaghan tipped IMP/ BIS to come up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭jus_tin4


    I would love to know what's coming up!! I think you're right marketing has come up a good bit. HR isn't that big, Paul Monaghan tipped IMP/ BIS to come up.

    Whats IMP/BIs again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 CAIgirl


    jus_tin4 wrote: »
    Whats IMP/BIs again?

    Business information system so all bout IT systems


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭heretothere


    information management process - business information systems. We got a thin enough book on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Conchur1


    Does anyone know are there any specific past paper, or case study examples for IMP/BIS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Paulacc


    Does anyone know where there are examples of questions that focus on IFRS 9?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    jus_tin4 wrote: »
    I have to say Atticus, Your notes have been an absolute life saver to me! Thanks a Million for share. You deserve to pass just on your notes alone!!!

    No problem. Happy to help. They're so easily shared I figured I might as well.

    If there's one thing I focus on for any exam, it's notes. I like to have a good condensed overview of notes to scan through in week running up to an exam. And to be honest, I'm not very good at getting myself to sit still for 4 hours to practice an exam paper, I'd rather spend my time doing something less intensive, like summarising the material and solutions. I think I probably took a bit too long writing them up but I'm happy enough in the knowledge that if I fail, I've 3 months to revise and a decent set of notes to work from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    Paulacc wrote: »
    Does anyone know where there are examples of questions that focus on IFRS 9?

    The FR notes we got at the start of the year have a few examples but other than that I don't recall coming accross it. (maybe for one of the case day cases?). I'm hoping it doesn't rear it's ugly head though as it's an area I'm very weak in, as I'm sure most students are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Jsmac67


    The FR notes we got at the start of the year have a few examples but other than that I don't recall coming accross it. (maybe for one of the case day cases?). I'm hoping it doesn't rear it's ugly head though as it's an area I'm very weak in, as I'm sure most students are

    If it was to pop up, it's at the apply level and would be examined at a very basic level I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    Jsmac67 wrote: »
    If it was to pop up, it's at the apply level and would be examined at a very basic level I'd imagine.

    Didn't realise! Glad to hear it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    I sat and tried the 2016 Core Comp today under time pressure. It's definitely a notch or two below the 2016 mock question which is a relief. And to be honest, I found it a lot handier than the "integrated case day" stuff. It's not as technically demanding and the indicators are very clearly signposted. But in saying that, it might simply have been a more student friendly paper than the norm. I found the "interest rate swap" confusing but after reading the solution, I wasn't far off. I've noticed most of the solutions are one page per indicator, another bonus.

    Has anyone any idea how prescriptive the grey box marking scheme is? I noticed on the 2016 audit indicator it requires the correct audit standard to be referenced for a "competent" solution. I would have more than met the requirements in terms of my analysis but I didn't reference ISA 500. Does that completely 100% preclude me from a "competent" solution?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Catherine3006


    I have just finished the January 2017 papers and have found them so much easier than the mock papers and integrated case days. The indicators were easily sign posted and to be honest a lot of very basic stuff coming up (with a few challenging components here and there) - hopefully they keep this up.

    To be honest, I am not sure how prescriptive they are when it comes to the grey box. I'd like to think that if you answer had all the components of a good answer under ISA 500 without actually writing "ISA 500" that they would give you the benefit of the doubt. However if they wanted to be mean they could argue that the reference wasn't made and therefore give you Basic Competence....

    To be on the safe side I'd try and get into the habit of referencing an ISA/Ethical Standard (or even IAS's) to hang your answer onto. At best, its going to bump you up into Competence, at worst it shows off extra knowledge and gives the marker the general feel that you know what you are talking about.

    I got a really positive comment written in my mock script because I had written "The relevant standard here is IAS XX". Takes two seconds to write and it seems to put them in a good mood!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭Humour Me


    How is everyone allocating their study time for the elective? I did the 2017 APM paper today and while it was straight forward enough, I definitely need to do some work to get comfortable with the more commercial aspects.


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