Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

Harry Palmr · 13-07-2017 09:55AM

pjohnson wrote: »

have ye given him a new contract or what? I thought he was meant to be a free agent but ye never released him.

According to transfermarkt he is a free agent but played yesterday and there has been no firm talk of him moving on (I suppose whether he stays with the squad when they head for Hong Kong will be a clue) - he has been leaving Liverpool for about 8 windows, I suppose it could happen at some point. He always seems to be linked with Serie A clubs as well.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 13-07-2017 10:22AM

pjohnson wrote: »

have ye given him a new contract or what? I thought he was meant to be a free agent but ye never released him.

Yeah, we illegally never released him and will illegally make him sign a one year contract extension.

Worst illegal club ever:pac:

Lord TSC · 13-07-2017 10:35AM

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/885418903408701440

Everton have made a £40 million bid for Siggurdson,he's not in Swansea tour party.

Two things fascinating me.

1. I cant wait to see how Siggy does stepping up to a bigger club. Always has impressed me for Swansea.

2. Everton seem to be having a brilliant summer so far. Be interesting to see how everyone gels together.

GLaDOS · 13-07-2017 10:37AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

1. I cant wait to see how Siggy does stepping up to a bigger club. Always has impressed me for Swansea.

Didn't really work out for him at Spurs. Think he might have been shunted out wide a lot though?

BullBlackNova · 13-07-2017 11:03AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Two things fascinating me.

1. I cant wait to see how Siggy does stepping up to a bigger club. Always has impressed me for Swansea.

2. Everton seem to be having a brilliant summer so far. Be interesting to see how everyone gels together.

GLaDOS wrote: »

Didn't really work out for him at Spurs. Think he might have been shunted out wide a lot though?

He was moved around to accommodate Eriksen (I think) so it may not have been his fault.

He's also developed quite a bit since - the Spurs move (and the Liverpool one that was reported at the time too) probably just came at the wrong time for him. Few more years at Swansea has served him well where he played every game in the same role instead.

If he moves to Everton, it's a solid signing for them and a good move for him. I don't see him dislodging an attacking mid from any of the sides above Everton just yet - not a comment on his ability just that the top 6 are all well stocked in that position currently, so barring a sale I don't see much change for any of them in that role.

He is an excellent set piece specialist, though, so that's something that would benefit any side.

GavRedKing · 13-07-2017 11:04AM

Swansea rejected the 40m bid apaprently. Theyre really holding out on this. I think both Everton and Leicester have had bids rejected now.

BullBlackNova · 13-07-2017 11:07AM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Swansea rejected the 40m bid apaprently. Theyre really holding out on this. I think both Everton and Leicester have had bids rejected now.

Tbf, as I saw either on here or on Twitter (I cba searching), his value is the cost of Swansea's relegation so they need to get whatever they can.

Losing him would be a killer blow for a team desperately lacking in, well, everything. Added to the fact that it might dissuade a potential target or two who sees him and / or Llorente (and maybe even Mawson) moving on if the papers are to be believed and it may go south pretty quickly.

GLaDOS · 13-07-2017 11:07AM

Siggy was key to Swansea staying up last season so don't blame them for holding out.

Minderbinder · 13-07-2017 11:16AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/885418903408701440

Everton have made a £40 million bid for Siggurdson,he's not in Swansea tour party.

Two things fascinating me.

1. I cant wait to see how Siggy does stepping up to a bigger club. Always has impressed me for Swansea.

2. Everton seem to be having a brilliant summer so far. Be interesting to see how everyone gels together.

Everton is a weird one. They've made a lot of good signings but ultimately I don't see anything there that will propel them beyond last season's seventh place finish.

I'd love to see them being competitive but they've sold their best player and the goals might be hard to replace.

GavRedKing · 13-07-2017 11:18AM

Everton can push into the top 6, I wouldnt rule it out anyway, I cant however see them making top 4.

Their best chance of CL football is to win the EL, IMO.

GavRedKing · 13-07-2017 01:59PM

Bonucci to AC Milan for 40m is being reported in Italy by a few reporters.

Lukker- · 13-07-2017 02:01PM

Doesn't get on with Allegri at all, but his wife wants to stay in Italy and he grew up in Milan. Solid signing if it happens, weakens Juve a lot too.

GavRedKing · 13-07-2017 02:04PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Doesn't get on with Allegri at all, but his wife wants to stay in Italy and he grew up in Milan. Solid signing if it happens, weakens Juve a lot too.

Juve are meant to be after De Sciglio too.

I cant see a swap deal, they never happen, but if De Sciglio is at AC Milan next year, I think Juve will be after him.

GavRedKing · 13-07-2017 03:04PM

Telegraph saying Spurs have accepted 50m from City for Walker.

Osmosis Jones · 13-07-2017 03:05PM

Spurs are barely going to feel it with Trippier already around to fill Walker's boots.

Quazzie · 13-07-2017 03:08PM

Every time I hear of Walker being mentioned with figures like that I have to double check because I always think I must be mistaken about who it actually is. Isn't worth anywhere near that imo. Must be the English Tax

Giggsy11 · 13-07-2017 03:10PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Telegraph saying Spurs have accepted 50m from City for Walker.

50 Million for Walker, 50 Million for Mendy (apparently), 50 Million for Stones but somehow no one calls Pep as Checkbook manager.

Their defense along with GK cost around 210-220 Million pounds.

Harry Palmr · 13-07-2017 03:11PM

Worth? He's worth it for City as they have the money and they need to keep the home grown quota filled.

Presumably Kyle Walker Peters will be happy!

pjohnson · 13-07-2017 03:13PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Every time I hear of Walker being mentioned with figures like that I have to double check because I always think I must be mistaken about who it actually is. Isn't worth anywhere near that imo. Must be the English Tax

I'd say the fact its well known City have one left back, no right backs and just got rejected by Dani Alves that contribute aswell. City are desperate. I thought Spurs would demand more but as mentioned Trippier actually dislodged him from the side last year.

Giggsy11 · 13-07-2017 03:14PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Worth? He's worth it for City as they have the money and they need to keep the home grown quota filled.

Presumably Kyle Walker Peters will be happy!

Spurs surely have some cloning machine. There is some young player who looks like Bale and now they have young player who has same name too.

Bounty Hunter · 13-07-2017 03:15PM

It's him being English, it being city, it being one premier league cl team to another and he will suit city so the fee does not shock me even though he isn't what you'd normally consider a 50m player.

If Spurs re-invest elsewhere (and keep the rest of their starters) they will be doing well given how trippier has preformed

pjohnson · 13-07-2017 03:19PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Worth? He's worth it for City as they have the money and they need to keep the home grown quota filled.

Presumably Kyle Walker Peters will be happy!

Lol. I just picture Levy sending KWP for the medical. "Oh you meant Kyle Walker?" Sorry I misunderstood, that'll be 70m in that case.

suffering golfer · 13-07-2017 03:35PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

50 Million for Walker, 50 Million for Mendy (apparently), 50 Million for Stones but somehow no one calls Pep as Checkbook manager.

Their defense along with GK cost around 210-220 Million pounds.

So what?

That's a bit rich coming from a supporter, to be giving out about fees when when his club has paid the two highest fees in the the last year on Pogba and Lukaku.

Pot meet kettle...

Jayop · 13-07-2017 03:40PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

So what?

That's a bit rich coming from a supporter, to be giving out about fees when when his club has paid the two highest fees in the the last year on Pogba and Lukaku.

Pot meet kettle...

The point he's making isn't that Jose or United haven't spent big, it's that Pep spends equally or more and doesn't get the same abuse for being a checkbook manager.

Not a pot and kettle situation at all. More like the pot looking at the kettle and wondering why he's not getting the same tarnish.

suffering golfer · 13-07-2017 03:45PM

Jayop wrote: »

The point he's making isn't that Jose or United haven't spent big, it's that Pep spends equally or more and doesn't get the same abuse for being a checkbook manager.

Not a pot and kettle situation at all. More like the pot looking at the kettle and wondering why he's not getting the same tarnish.

Whatever about Pep, Man City get dog abuse every year for spending money. Just think it a bit rich for a Man Utd fan to be doing that now.

Jayop · 13-07-2017 03:49PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Whatever about Pep, Man City get dog abuse every year for spending money. Just think it a bit rich for a Man Utd fan to be doing that now.

Again, if you actually read what he said, he didn't complain about them spending at all. he complained that Jose is called a checkbook manager while Pep isn't.

It's not difficult.

United and City have spend equally outrageous amounts in recent years. I really don't care what either spend and I certainly don't think the fans of either club are in a position to complain about the others ludicrous spending. The money is there, the teams need improving, the best players and Stones cost a fortune so let them off.

ERG89 · 13-07-2017 04:01PM

Jayop wrote:

Again, if you actually read what he said, he didn't complain about them spending at all. he complained that Jose is called a checkbook manager while Pep isn't.

They all are though. Few managers in the league don't splash cash. I actually think it's noticeable how good the chemistry was at Spurs last season as they tend not to buy 2 or 3 new starters every year like others do. Most managers tend in the league tend to buy new instead of trying to develop too. I think the fascination with buying comes from the fact most Managers in the PL are well paid to do little so they need to try a quick fix on the team rather than work on the training ground.

suffering golfer · 13-07-2017 04:09PM

Jayop wrote: »

Again, if you actually read what he said, he didn't complain about them spending at all. he complained that Jose is called a checkbook manager while Pep isn't.

It's not difficult.

United and City have spend equally outrageous amounts in recent years. I really don't care what either spend and I certainly don't think the fans of either club are in a position to complain about the others ludicrous spending. The money is there, the teams need improving, the best players and Stones cost a fortune so let them off.

Maybe that's because Pep is popular and Jose isn't? Or maybe because Pep has a stronger reputation for developing players over Jose?

Anyway getting sidetracked a little. There is no question that Man City have brought horrifically and overpaid defense in the back. May be too much money but City badly needed a full back and home grown is a major plus as City is struggling with that aspect.

TitianGerm · 13-07-2017 04:11PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Or maybe because Pep has a stronger reputation for developing players over Jose?

What young players has Pep developed? I can't really think of many?

POKERKING · 13-07-2017 04:12PM

Jayop wrote: »

suffering golfer wrote: »

Whatever about Pep, Man City get dog abuse every year for spending money. Just think it a bit rich for a Man Utd fan to be doing that now.

Again, if you actually read what he said, he didn't complain about them spending at all. he complained that Jose is called a checkbook manager while Pep isn't.

It's not difficult.

United and City have spend equally outrageous amounts in recent years. I really don't care what either spend and I certainly don't think the fans of either club are in a position to complain about the others ludicrous spending. The money is there, the teams need improving, the best players and Stones cost a fortune so let them off.

City fans have been labelled with this for yeaes, me personally from utd fans, if i give it back its because i have been getting it for years. "City ruining football" now its ok for teams to "ruin" football.

Walker a great signing, best available right back and its done. I dont care about money.

Same with utd, they got lukaku the best available striker and anything after that is irrelevant.

Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

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