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CNN tracks down random reddit meme poster and threatens to release his information

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    The guy posted a picture of CNN employees identifying them as jewish.

    Some would take that as a threat.

    If I was a jewish employee of CNN I would be concerned.

    So your claim that this guy "acted multiple times to cause harm to CNN and individual employees of CNN.", boils down to just one incident, where he labelled various CNN employees as Jewish.
    He didn't try to incite any violence and this information was probably fairly obvious to start with.
    If he was posting "here's a list, lets get them" you'd have a point, but he didn't.
    And I'm guessing CNN didn't see it as much of a threat either or they'd have probably reported it to the authorities and would have left the guy alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,317 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    So your claim that this guy "acted multiple times to cause harm to CNN and individual employees of CNN.", boils down to just one incident, where he labelled various CNN employees as Jewish.
    He didn't try to incite any violence and this information was probably fairly obvious to start with.
    If he was posting "here's a list, lets get them" you'd have a point, but he didn't.
    And I'm guessing CNN didn't see it as much of a threat either or they'd have probably reported it to the authorities and would have left the guy alone.


    sure whats the harm in a bit of casual antisemitism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    So the guy himself has said there's no blackmail. Why is this thread still going on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,317 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    So the guy himself has said there's no blackmail. Why is this thread still going on?


    "Well he would say that, wouldn't he cos he is being threatened, duh" seems to be the reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Grayson wrote: »
    So the guy himself has said there's no blackmail. Why is this thread still going on?
    Do you not think the threat hanging over his head could be influencing his opinions on the matter?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Do you not think the threat hanging over his head could be influencing his opinions on the matter?

    The threat that doesn't exist and that he said doesn't exist?

    I'd imagine all the imaginary dragons and pixies are influencing his decision too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Grayson wrote: »
    The threat that doesn't exist and that he said doesn't exist?

    I'd imagine all the imaginary dragons and pixies are influencing his decision too.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html
    CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

    CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
    Change your ways or we'll destroy your reputation and put your safety and that of your family at risk.
    Seems awfully like a threat to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,317 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

    Change your ways or we'll destroy your reputation and put your safety and that of your family at risk.
    Seems awfully like a threat to me.


    God it feels almost this has already been explained at least 20 times already.

    Is deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja deja vu a thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Just came across this - if anyone was wondering exactly why so many people, particularly Trumpeteers, regard CNN as showing clear bias and violating ethics:

    OCwN9zf.jpg

    Both tweets were deleted after this debacle, but can be found on the internet archive here: https://archive.is/rDKvt

    Again, one must admit that even if all of these incidents are misunderstandings and taken out of context as CNN keeps claiming, they're really not doing themselves any favours by continuing to push their agenda so hard that it becomes a more important consideration than journalistic integrity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,317 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Just came across this - if anyone was wondering exactly why so many people, particularly Trumpeteers, regard CNN as showing clear bias and violating ethics:

    OCwN9zf.jpg

    Both tweets were deleted after this debacle, but can be found on the internet archive here: https://archive.is/rDKvt

    Again, one must admit that even if all of these incidents are misunderstandings and taken out of context as CNN keeps claiming, they're really not doing themselves any favours by continuing to push their agenda so hard that it becomes a more important consideration than journalistic integrity.


    do you know what journalistic integrity is? admitting you made a mistake and apologising. You love to bash CNN but i dont remember any alt-right news sources admitting they got something wrong. they just go on the offence and publish even more crap until the original crap is forgotten.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Bushmanpm


    God it feels almost this has already been explained at least 20 times already.


    Yes, and yet you STILL won't accept why CNN are wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Just came across this - if anyone was wondering exactly why so many people, particularly Trumpeteers, regard CNN as showing clear bias and violating ethics:

    OCwN9zf.jpg

    Both tweets were deleted after this debacle, but can be found on the internet archive here: https://archive.is/rDKvt

    Again, one must admit that even if all of these incidents are misunderstandings and taken out of context as CNN keeps claiming, they're really not doing themselves any favours by continuing to push their agenda so hard that it becomes a more important consideration than journalistic integrity.

    Oh my god ...somebody call the police!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    do you know what journalistic integrity is? admitting you made a mistake and apologising. You love to bash CNN but i dont remember any alt-right news sources admitting they got something wrong. they just go on the offence and publish even more crap until the original crap is forgotten.

    It interesting to see the double standard. Trump himself is a pathological liar, but is given a free pass. Trump and his regime constantly lie through there teeth, again and again, and are completely unapologetic about it. Its astonishing that any of them can accuse anyone of dishonesty.

    FFS, Trump for 8 years engaged in a disgusting racist Birther campaign against Obama, but apparently that is ok. Again, its astonishing the double standard, that the President of the US is being held to, that is he is held to no standard at all. It shows how far the US has fallen in such a short time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

    Change your ways or we'll destroy your reputation and put your safety and that of your family at risk.
    Seems awfully like a threat to me.

    He said they never threatened him. They say they never threatened him. The only person saying they did is you (and other guys like you).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Just came across this - if anyone was wondering exactly why so many people, particularly Trumpeteers, regard CNN as showing clear bias and violating ethics:

    Both tweets were deleted after this debacle, but can be found on the internet archive here: https://archive.is/rDKvt

    Again, one must admit that even if all of these incidents are misunderstandings and taken out of context as CNN keeps claiming, they're really not doing themselves any favours by continuing to push their agenda so hard that it becomes a more important consideration than journalistic integrity.

    Ya know a simple google will provide you with a lot of knowledge so you don't start posting stuff like "The guy was doxxed" or "Both tweets were deleted".

    Here's the CNN tweet. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/822152902802362368
    It's not deleted. I'm not sure why you'd want to show a link to an archive to show something that's still live. maybe it's to show your investigative powers?

    Anyway, what Sinatra said was that they should remember the first line of the song. "And now the end is near".

    Sinatra was a fan of Obama. She doesn't like Trump. The actual story states this and has been updated to include Sinatra's tweet.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way/index.html?sr=twCNN011917/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way0645PMStoryLink&linkId=33568369
    Washington (CNN)Famed singer Frank Sinatra's eldest daughter, Nancy Sinatra, has never been a fan of President-elect Donald Trump.

    Now that he's about the assume the presidency, the younger Sinatra let the world know how she feels about one of her father's famous songs being used in the inauguration festivities.
    According to inauguration chairman Tom Barrack, Trump and his wife, Melania, have selected "My Way" by Frank Sinatra for their first dance as the first couple at the Liberty Ball on Inauguration Day.
    Nancy Sinatra, when asked for a response about the song selection on Twitter, said, in a now-deleted tweet: "Just remember the first line of the song."
    The first line of the song is, "And now, the end is near."
    Sinatra tweeted a link to this article, saying: "That's not true. I never said that. Why do you lie, CNN?"
    Sinatra deleted her tweet regarding the song after CNN published this article.
    Earlier this week, Sinatra tweeted at him concerning his use of language about Martin Luther King, Jr. in old tweets.
    She also wrote to the President-elect asking him to not derail efforts to fight climate change, along with asking her followers to sign a petition.
    Over the past several weeks, Sinatra has also retweeted several messages in support of Planned Parenthood and the Affordable Care Act, as well as messages thanking President Barack Obama for his time in office.




    Then again. maybe they weren't mistakes. maybe you have an agenda and are just happy to regurgitate stuff you see elsewhere that supports your view point.

    It took me 20 seconds to find the tweet and story. Spend at least that long looking up stuff and your quality of information will rise with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Grayson wrote: »
    He said they never threatened him.
    Yeah as I previously said, it's because there's a threat over his head.
    They say they never threatened him.
    Real shocker there.
    The only person saying they did is you (and other guys like you).
    So there's a lot of people questioning CNN's behaviour. Seems about right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,093 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Grayson wrote: »
    He said they never threatened him. They say they never threatened him. The only person saying they did is you (and other guys like you).

    5-04-cnn-did-nothing-wrong-i-deeply-regret-what-i-24684609.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Uinseann_16


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    It sounds like standard legalese to me. In this context it comes across poorly I will admit.



    Against releasing his info or against threatening him? The threat is purely perception based. Again, it comes across as crass in this scenario but also seems like a normal enough legal disclaimer.

    I think they would have been better off ignoring the whole bloody thing but the reaction to it is unwarranted.

    violation of 18 U.S. Code § 241 in relation to the 1st Amendment
    plus a few more were brought up


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    violation of 18 U.S. Code § 241 in relation to the 1st Amendment
    plus a few more were brought up

    Which are only relevant if there is coercion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Bushmanpm


    Being technically challenged I struggle to post videos but I'm sure you all remember that white supremacist, Richard Spencer who got punched in the head whilst doing a TV interview on the streets?
    Then someone else came along and edited that clip with New Orders "Blue Monday" playing in the background with the punch being landed multiple times in quick succession, in time to the beat? (I found it on YouTube by an account called Communist Manifesto (with their six subscribers!))
    Still with me at the back?
    So hands up anyone who defends the right of CNN to dox the "...vile racist kid..." who also believe the editor of the Richard Spencer/Blue Monday clip should also be doxxed?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    OK so we're all in agreement that nothing anyone says means what it means any more, it means what the reader wants it to mean in order to back up their preconceived nothing. Awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Bushmanpm wrote: »
    So hands up anyone who defends the right of CNN to dox the "...vile racist kid..." who also believe the editor of the Richard Spencer/Blue Monday clip should also be doxxed?

    CNN didn't dox anyone...... so whats your point exactly?

    I will note various alt-right trumpkins have doxed CNN employees and they have received death threats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,093 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Bushmanpm wrote: »
    Being technically challenged I struggle to post videos but I'm sure you all remember that white supremacist, Richard Spencer who got punched in the head whilst doing a TV interview on the streets?
    Then someone else came along and edited that clip with New Orders "Blue Monday" playing in the background with the punch being landed multiple times in quick succession, in time to the beat? (I found it on YouTube by an account called Communist Manifesto (with their six subscribers!))
    Still with me at the back?
    So hands up anyone who defends the right of CNN to dox the "...vile racist kid..." who also believe the editor of the Richard Spencer/Blue Monday clip should also be doxxed?

    Neither to be honest are news, and that's what pisses me off the most. Isn't there an on line pedophile ring or some corporate scam to be investigated CNN? Is meme sh1tp0sting headline news because you're butt hurt that people are laughing at you?
    Not that it's a surprise when you learn the toss pot that 'broke this story' Andrew Kaczynski was hired from buzzfeed.
    Yeah, seriously, that's where CNN gets their 'reporters' these days .... effin buzzfeed..... make of that what you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Bushmanpm


    wes wrote:
    CNN didn't dox anyone...... so whats your point exactly?


    "...defends THE RIGHT to dox..."
    Do actually RTB ad and digest what people are posting, you'll find its a big help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Bushmanpm wrote: »
    "...defends THE RIGHT to dox..."
    Do actually RTB ad and digest what people are posting, you'll find its a big help.

    "RTB ad"? Your not helping.

    BTW, my point is that no doxing took place, so I don't see the relevance of what your saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Bushmanpm


    conorhal wrote:
    Not that it's a surprise when you learn the toss pot that 'broke this story' Andrew Kaczynski was hired from buzzfeed. Yeah, seriously, that's where CNN gets their 'reporters' these days .... effin buzzfeed..... make of that what you will.


    At least it wasn't the dynamically diverse Hufflepuffington Post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    In the racially tense gun happy southern USA (CNN is in Atlanta), having your face and identity posted on a right wing hate site could very well be taken as a threat.

    The same tactic was used on abortion providing doctors back in the 80's and a few were killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Bushmanpm


    wes wrote:
    BTW, my point is that no doxing took place, so I don't see the relevance of what your saying.
    Its the THREAT of it
    wes wrote:
    "RTB ad"? Your not helping.

    read
    Sorry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Bushmanpm wrote: »
    Its the THREAT of it

    Ok, but both parties said there was no threat. Now CNN certainly screwed up in how the presented it to the wider public, but the redditor in question says he was not threatened.
    Bushmanpm wrote: »
    read
    Sorry!

    NP. It was a funny typo to be fair :).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    wes wrote: »
    Ok, but both parties said there was no threat. Now CNN certainly screwed up in how the presented it to the wider public, but the redditor in question says he was not threatened.
    So you'll take the word of someone who claims they were not threatened, over the black and white evidence that he has been threatened. :confused:

    Do you believe the accounts of all the battered wives who claim they have fallen down the stairs?
    Both sides agree to it so it must be true.
    What about hostages you say they are being treated well even though they look tired, scared and emaciated?


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