Did anybody here attend the Rally For Life/repeal the 8th marches in Dublin?

freshpopcorn · 02-07-2017 10:34PM #1

I heard a good bit about these online at the weekend. Did anybody on Boards attend either of these?
I think it was official the Rally for Life and the counter march was organised by the repeal side. I know in my local town their was a bus organised by the Rally for Life group. According to the net their was meant to have be a good turn out for the Rally for Life protest. This was discredited by repeal the 8th side but either side always tend to think they've a massive group and the other side is smaller.
From social media it appears to the same people commenting from both sides all the time in my experience with the typical comments getting all the likes. Outside of the internet/news articles I have never really heard many people on about it to be honest.
It will be a very interesting to see how a vote on this will go in my opinion it will all depend on what people are voting for. One thing I have noticed is repeal votes seem to be alienating the on the fence voters more so than the pro-life campaign.

DrumSteve · 02-07-2017 10:37PM

I think it'll be repealed.

Had the prolifers at the door the other day and they do themselves no favours.

B.A._Baracus · 02-07-2017 10:54PM

I, for one, did not.

MilesMorales1 · 02-07-2017 11:01PM

I did. Even if it does nothing, we're making ourselves heard.

freshpopcorn · 02-07-2017 11:03PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I did. Even if it does nothing, we're making ourselves heard.

Nice to know. Was their many people at it?

Synthol · 02-07-2017 11:05PM

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

MilesMorales1 · 02-07-2017 11:06PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Nice to know. Was their many people at it?

I thought there was. Lot of people, good spirit.

DrumSteve · 02-07-2017 11:14PM

Synthol wrote: »

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

Strong tarring of everyone with the one brush there

Uriel. · 02-07-2017 11:16PM

Synthol wrote: »

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

Whatever about abortion... We typically don't force women (or men) to breed unwanted children. In most cases it's lack of personal responsibility that leads to an unwanted child

keano_afc · 02-07-2017 11:30PM

There was no Repeal march, don't believe the crap peddled in the media.

I was at the pro-life march. Very well attended from what I saw, Gardai were pretty slow moving us along though. When we got to Merrion square the last of the marchers were still on the quays. Great atmosphere, lots of youth making their voices heard. I'm not Catholic so wouldn't be a big fan of the religious iconography or the Marian devotion, but we're on the same side at the end of the day. All in all a good day out.

02-07-2017 11:37PM

Synthol wrote: »

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

Correction: Africa and Asia are overpopulated. Europe needs higher birthrates.

freshpopcorn · 02-07-2017 11:41PM

keano_afc wrote: »

There was no Repeal march, don't believe the crap peddled in the media.

.

Was it more of a counter protest?
All I saw online basically were people with signs(pro-life) looking at women with signs and coat hangers(Repeal).

Annasopra · 02-07-2017 11:45PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

One thing I have noticed is repeal votes seem to be alienating the on the fence voters more so than the pro-life campaign.

I heard this said a lot on this site during the marriage equality campaign. It actually wasnt true at all in that case. So I am very very doubtful about it in this case.

Stephen15 · 02-07-2017 11:46PM

511 wrote: »

Correction: Africa and Asia are overpopulated. Europe needs higher birthrates.

Ireland has the highest birth rate in Europe

Donal55 · 02-07-2017 11:51PM

Synthol wrote: »

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

Blessed be the Fruit.

freshpopcorn · 02-07-2017 11:54PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I heard this said a lot on this site during the marriage equality campaign. It actually wasnt true at all in that case. So I am very very doubtful about it in this case.

I never had a doubt about the marriage referendum passing. I found during the marriage referendum everybody on Yes side was on the same page. However if you ask people in the repeal campaign what circumstances they want abortion legalised they can all give you different answers and don't agree with one another.

Outlaw Pete · 03-07-2017 12:15AM

Synthol wrote: »

The world is overpopulated but we force women to breed unwanted children and enter this world, then the children are abused and grow up criminals.

Nonsense.... lots of children who are unwanted go on to have productive and happy lives despite not being initially wanted.

Phil Lynott was born after a failed abortion (for example) and despite his mother's wish for him not to have been born (initially at least) she went on to love him just as much as any mother who planned their child's birth.... if not even more so in fact.

wordofwarning · 03-07-2017 12:22AM

Uriel. wrote: »

In most cases it's lack of personal responsibility that leads to an unwanted child

No true. Around 50-66% of abortions are due to contraceptive failures eg the pills not working for some reason or condom failure. No all contraceptives are effective. In fact condoms are quite ineffective at preventing pregnancy versus IUD

AFAIK I don't think we were once told in sex ed in school that IUDs had pretty much a zero failure rate versus condoms which have a high failure rate

Outlaw Pete · 03-07-2017 12:23AM

Looked like a decent sized crowd but sure if people want to dismiss views... let them.

https://twitter.com/KatyRobinson198/status/881217325676072961

gctest50 · 03-07-2017 12:29AM

Sums it up in one photo :

" Not one fertile person "

http://twitter.com/earley/status/881145355789840385

Varik · 03-07-2017 12:30AM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Ireland has the highest birth rate in Europe

And it's still below the replacement rate.

Outlaw Pete · 03-07-2017 12:30AM

gctest50 wrote: »

Sums it up in one photo :

" Not one fertile person "

How about these?

gctest50 · 03-07-2017 12:33AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

How about these?

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Bunch of filthy militant anti-choice scum ?

Outlaw Pete · 03-07-2017 12:34AM

gctest50 wrote: »

Bunch of filthy militant anti-choice scum ?

And the mask slips.

gctest50 · 03-07-2017 12:37AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

And the mask slips.

What mask ?

nice_guy80 · 03-07-2017 12:38AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

How about these?

putting the youth defense out the front of a protest doesn't count

they were all up for the day with their grandparents

sabat · 03-07-2017 12:46AM

gctest50 wrote: »

Sums it up in one photo :

" Not one fertile person "

http://twitter.com/earley/status/881145355789840385

That's just blatant lying. I saw a good part of the march on my way into work and it was about as representative of the population in terms of age, gender and race as you could get.

RayM · 03-07-2017 12:48AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

According to the net their was meant to have be a good turn out for the Rally for Life protest. This was discredited by repeal the 8th side but either side always tend to think they've a massive group and the other side is smaller.

It was a high turnout, as marches go, but probably nowhere near the 70,000 claimed by the organisers (and unquestioningly parroted by RTE). Maybe a bit closer to ten thousand than "the ten thousands", which is still very high. The majority of those participating were elderly and male, and there was a lot of religious iconography too (not that there's anything wrong with religious iconography, but carrying statues of the Virgin Mary down O'Connell Street is a bit "extra" if you ask me). There were a lot of priests present too, including a certain Fr Brian McKevitt (editor of Alive! magazine) in his full Dominican regalia. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's interesting that a genuine Christian like Fr Peter McVerry, for example, doesn't feel the need to prance around the north inner city in a gigantic white frock, swinging his rosary beads around and telling people what to do with their own bodies.

freshpopcorn wrote:

One thing I have noticed is repeal votes seem to be alienating the on the fence voters more so than the pro-life campaign.

I don't know - I think the sight of elderly men shouting "murderer" at young women might be a bit alienating to people who are genuinely on the fence. Also, picking a child with Down Syndrome up and shoving her into the faces of counter-protesters might alienate people too. Both of those things happened at yesterday's march.

gctest50 · 03-07-2017 12:49AM

sabat wrote: »

That's just blatant lying. I saw a good part of the march on my way into work and it was about as representative of the population in terms of age, gender and race as you could get.

And how many of them had a uterus and were aged between say 18 and 40 ?

freshpopcorn · 03-07-2017 12:50AM

They got a good crowd and the one thing for certain is most of these people will vote. I was actually expecting the marriage referendum to pass with a greater vote. I think the people who voted against the marriage referendum will probably vote to keep the 8th. I can see a good few constituencies voting go going by the marriage referendum results. Even if I view pro life pages. I've friends who seem to be into the pro-life campaign. These wouldn't be religious people and would have being Yes voters in the marriage referendum. So, I honestly have no idea how it would go to be honest. It would take a good vote in Urban areas for it to be repealed.

Richard Hillman · 03-07-2017 12:53AM

Why are they still going around with the "Repeal" jumpers? It has pretty much been confirmed that it won't be repealed and we will instead have the option to amend the amendment.

Did anybody here attend the Rally For Life/repeal the 8th marches in Dublin?

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