Opel - Insignia : why are they so cheap?

godwin · 28-06-2017 02:42PM #1

I see quite a few of these for sale, reasonably priced for car that are 6-8 years old, why are they so cheap, are they ****e?

NIMAN · 28-06-2017 02:43PM

Opels don't seem to hold their values well.

godwin · 28-06-2017 02:44PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Opels don't seem to hold their values well.

That aside, how are they mechanically? reliable?

NIMAN · 28-06-2017 02:48PM

We have only ever owned one, a Corsa many moons ago. Didn't give us any bother.

But I don't think they have a great reputation, but then again most brands will have haters and people who think they are rubbish.

Opel are big sellers, so maybe there is just more of them for sale, and that keeps prices down?

waraf · 28-06-2017 02:49PM

godwin wrote: »

That aside, how are they mechanically? reliable?

they're quite well known for having gearbox problems

punisher5112 · 28-06-2017 02:50PM

Many imports and huge mileage is normal.

They were mainly reps vehicles in a lot of cases and to be honest aren't great.

pcardin · 28-06-2017 02:57PM

gearbox, dual-mass, and oil starving issue which by the time get detected has caused significant damage to engine. At least that is what internet says. don't know how much truth is there but if you look around on Autotrader or DD a lot of Insigninas (diesel) are sold as for parts or repair.

CiniO · 28-06-2017 03:04PM

How are petrol models?
Are they suffering same problems?

Sparkles2012 · 28-06-2017 03:49PM

They have a new Insignia coming out in June which is probably why prices have dropped recently too as well as having problems recently with some of the diesel models.

The petrol Insignia dosent seem to give much trouble they are hard to come by and then they are in the higher tax band I think its €720.00 to tax them.

Bandana boy · 28-06-2017 04:04PM

The Insignia is one of three options for reps in our company
Every rep who got one has sworn never again.
Complaints range from hard work to just looks cheap and tacky inside.

bazz26 · 28-06-2017 05:29PM

Insignias are plentiful in supply due to Opel offering decent fleet discounts, also a glut of them coming in from the UK driving down prices and early models which are now 7 or 8 years old, were not very reliable.

JoeA3 · 28-06-2017 08:04PM

It's nothing new. Insignias/Vectras/Astras have always suffered fairly severe depreciation compared to their rivals and it's only getting worse in recent years as Opel's relevance here dwindles.

Opel used to be a pretty big player here (remember when they sponsored the Soccer team!) but these days they seem to be among the also rans with nothing much you could call desirable across their range. The likes of Hyundai have blown them away with better products/packaging, etc.

Toyotafanboi · 28-06-2017 08:22PM

Reliability is average at best, their visual design is dating at a rate of knots and their interior is well behind other "German" competitors.

Arthur Daley · 28-06-2017 08:34PM

The Insignia was a little bit desirable though to be fair to them no? Good looking car with a half decent interior for the price. I mean compared to all the other mid range boxes Opel/ Vauxhall put out since the early 80s.

Pawwed Rig · 28-06-2017 08:39PM

Have a 2010 Insignia and it does the job for me. Huge boot and plenty of space in the back (2 kids so necessity).
Good grunt in the engine (2 ltr diesel).
Can't say it is the best car I ever had (I miss my audi TT) but far from the worst.

JoeA3 · 28-06-2017 09:21PM

Arthur Daley wrote: »

The Insignia was a little bit desirable though to be fair to them no? Good looking car with a half decent interior for the price. I mean compared to all the other mid range boxes Opel/ Vauxhall put out since the early 80s.

Yeah it was quite good looking but I don't think its aged well. Bit frumpy looking now imo. I saw one of the new models (facelift) at the weekend and its no looker I'm afraid. Looked quite awkward.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 28-06-2017 09:27PM

I've driven Insignias since they came out and have never had a single issue with them.
Spec is excellent for the money.

The new one is out, test drove one on Monday. An 8 year old is a couple of restylings back but my 2010 model was an excellent car.

rushfan · 28-06-2017 09:40PM

I'm on my second Insignia, only issue was a problem with the boot lock mechanism on the first one. Sorted out under warranty. Good solid reliable car.

scooby77 · 28-06-2017 09:50PM

Colleague has 11 reg diesel, bought it 2 years with over 90k miles. Touching 120 k miles now. No issues except one rear coil spring spotted in NCT. Full service history though. He doesn't love it, but thinks good family car- and was cheap to buy, and cheap to run. ..so far.

Royale with Cheese · 28-06-2017 09:53PM

Not that I'd trust a word he said, but I went to view a car off the naas road recently and the dealer while making small talk said there are a large amount of clocked ones going around at the moment. More than other makes. I was viewing a completely different car so it was nothing to do with the sale.

kirving · 28-06-2017 09:57PM

I think they tend to save a bit of cash on the interior. Not at the quality levels of the Germans, and the Koreans are now at the same level if not better.

Little things annoy me though. My sister's Corsa for example doesn't have a double-click window button to bring it up or down the full way. Instead, it has an internal timer so that you can use the auto function if you hold it for more than a second (but less than two seconds in which case it thinks you want to roll it half way down).

Huge cost saving over millions of cars as the little buttons are more complicated than you'd think. Probably more reliable too, but I really can't forgive basic functions like this not being perfectly thought out, crisp and executed well.

liam7831 · 28-06-2017 10:16PM

I have one as a company car bought new since 2014, 140k on it now hasnt given any trouble in fairness except the bluetooth can be a bit gammy sometimes. Due a new one in a few months

TigerTim · 28-06-2017 10:26PM

I was interested in buying one a few months ago. I spoke to two mechanics I know who work in different garages. One said the Insignia was the "greatest ball of sh!te that was ever made". The other said it was a fabulous car, his garage had sold a good few & no issues. Make of that what you will. I didn't buy an Insignia after all.

T.

TheShow · 28-06-2017 10:30PM

beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think its a nice looking motor, although the estate has a big arse. was seriously looking at them recently but mileage is sky high on any decent ones, better option in the UK, in terms of spec and value, but all that hassle that involved too. Had a look at the new model out in Airside yesterday and I do think its nice looking. I'd imagine one of the reasons for attractive pricing is sheer volume of them on the market. What put me off ultimately was while the price seems attractive now, resale value when you go to change it in a few years will most likely be pretty poor.
e.g. i picked up an 09 focus in 2015 for 8k and getting 5.5 on a trade in for it now, which is pretty good i reckon considering i've put 30k miles on the clock.

No car is faultless. Just make sure you go in with your eyes open.

road_high · 28-06-2017 10:44PM

Bandana boy wrote: »

The Insignia is one of three options for reps in our company
Every rep who got one has sworn never again.
Complaints range from hard work to just looks cheap and tacky inside.

My last company car was one and it was one of the best cars I ever had...it wasn't bog standard spec though and was very reliable.

road_high · 28-06-2017 10:46PM

rushfan wrote: »

I'm on my second Insignia, only issue was a problem with the boot lock mechanism on the first one. Sorted out under warranty. Good solid reliable car.

Same thing happened mine. Was only fault in over 3 years. Once serviced to the letter I reckon they're spot on

The high horse brigade · 28-06-2017 10:49PM

My old fella has a 132 one, horrible, poverty spec with a tacky interior and it sounds like a tractor

road_high · 28-06-2017 10:56PM

They're desperate in the poverty spec alright with plastic wheel trims and grey colour.
Think the 13 facelift dropped that real basic spec and also improved the styling a fair bit outside and inside

The high horse brigade · 28-06-2017 11:08PM

road_high wrote: »

They're desperate in the poverty spec alright with plastic wheel trims and grey colour.
Think the 13 facelift dropped that real basic spec and also improved the styling a fair bit outside and inside

I was amazed at some of the omissions in a 132. No parking sensors, no reversing camera, no keyless start, no sat nav or any screen for that matter. Maybe it's the older pre facelift model.

road_high · 28-06-2017 11:15PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I was amazed at some of the omissions in a 132. No parking sensors, no reversing camera, no keyless start, no sat nav or any screen for that matter. Maybe it's the older pre facelift model.

Sounds like the S or SC model. Had the SRI Ltd Edition and it was a very good spec compared to its peers like the Passat.
The facelift has a much improved dash with less fussy buttons and displays. Cleaner and fresher outside as well

bazz26 · 28-06-2017 11:35PM

The top spec Elite model has some decent equipment in it and can be bought for small money these days if you go back the years. Pre late 2014 2.0 diesel engines were a bit rough being reworked versions of the old Fiat 1.9 multi-jet engines from the mid 2000s. M32 gearboxes gave their fair share of problems in these cars too.

Opel - Insignia : why are they so cheap?

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