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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #5372
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    If McGregor were to beat him (I know I know) but I will say anyone not even affording him a punchers chance are being disingenuous at best.....anyway if he won what chances him going the boxing route full time and ditching mma

    A fight against the winner of GGG v Canelo would do big numbers, and he'd be the a-side in the negotiations. I don't think UFC could offer him close to what he'd get on a win streak on boxing ppv.


  • #5373
    VW 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭VW 1


    People talking of him winning, full time boxing, fighting the winner of canelo GGG.

    This thread is currently at full retard.


  • #5374
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    VW 1 wrote: »
    People talking of him winning, full time boxing, fighting the winner of canelo GGG.

    This thread is currently at full retard.


    Have to agree, I've seen it all now.


  • #5375
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Also it's worth noting that Floyd has had that date in Vegas on hold for months. It isn't new news whatsoever. Media have just latched onto it is all.

    I can't see any way it's the McGregor fight. The date is too close. That fight will be sold on the trash talk. They'll take press conferences around the word like and build it. No chance they rush it and have it on in two months.


  • #5376
    DontThankMe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    It's like batman vs superman but it's not a movie it's real life!


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  • #5377
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,837 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    buzzinfly83 wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong I'll watch it for free for the spectacle but there's not a chance in hell I'd pay for this farce.

    And if streams are hard to come by come fight night you'll be scrambling to get the payment through on SBO

    It's pretty much morbid interest for everyone at this stage, it's something usually resigned to fantasy but it could be reality soon


  • #5378
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Morrison J wrote:
    I can't see any way it's the McGregor fight. The date is too close. That fight will be sold on the trash talk. They'll take press conferences around the word like and build it. No chance they rush it and have it on in two months.


    There will be very little promotion for this fight, definetley not more than 1 press comfrence. This fight sells itself and in honesty, is probably sold already. The official announcement will send the world media into overdrive itself.


  • #5379
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    If he won that would be up there with Italia 90 for me.

    More like up there with the moving Virgin Mary in Ballinspittle.


  • #5380
    rogieop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭rogieop


    I find it incredible people still dont seem to realise that this is the end game for Mcgregor.

    He fights Floyd, pockets 100 million odd abd thats it. He's out the gate, not a hope hes going back fighting max or khabib etc etc for a couple mil and a 100k bonus.

    After this he is young rich fresh and free. Will start his own promotion. NQAT.


  • #5381
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    rogieop wrote: »
    I find it incredible people still dont seem to realise that this is the end game for Mcgregor.

    He fights Floyd, pockets 100 million odd abd thats it. He's out the gate, not a hope hes going back fighting max or khabib etc etc for a couple mil and a 100k bonus.

    After this he is young rich fresh and free. Will start his own promotion. NQAT.

    He's going to be embarrassed, i don't think he'll want to go out like that. I think he'll fight again before the year is out.


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  • #5382
    Spudman_20000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    If he does walk away after Mayweather, he'll have been one of the very few fighters (MMA or boxing) to retire at their peak. I'd be surprised if he does.

    There's been plenty of fighters who have amassed more than enough money to retire comfortably, but have chosen to continue.


  • #5383
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    rogieop wrote: »
    I find it incredible people still dont seem to realise that this is the end game for Mcgregor.

    He fights Floyd, pockets 100 million odd abd thats it. He's out the gate, not a hope hes going back fighting max or khabib etc etc for a couple mil and a 100k bonus.

    After this he is young rich fresh and free. Will start his own promotion. NQAT.

    And the inevitable "coming out of retirement" fight will go on to do astronomical numbers. He doesn't strike me as the type to leave money on the table, and there'll be plenty of it regardless of the result against Mayweather.


  • #5384
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Retiring without defending your belt once would be poor. Wouldn't surprise me though


  • #5385
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    If McGregor were to beat him (I know I know) but I will say anyone not even affording him a punchers chance are being disingenuous at best.....anyway if he won what chances him going the boxing route full time and ditching mma

    He would be the greatest sportsman of all time


  • #5386
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I thought he'd retire after this too, but the more I think of it he probably has an agreement with UFC that if they let him do this, he will see out his contract.


  • #5387
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    I don't think he'll retire, he seems genuinely obsessed with the sport and someone who can't sit still for two seconds, do you think he would be satisfied going the Ronda Rousey direction trying to get into film, being bossed around for days on a film set?


  • #5388
    akelly02
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭akelly02


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I don't think he'll retire, he seems genuinely obsessed with the sport and someone who can't sit still for two seconds, do you think he would be satisfied going the Ronda Rousey direction trying to get into film, being bossed around for days on a film set?


    So obsessed with the sport he isnt even competing in it for his next fight


  • #5389
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The only thing Mcgregor is obsessed with is dollars.


  • #5390
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    akelly02 wrote: »
    So obsessed with the sport he isnt even competing in it for his next fight

    He's also obsessed with money.

    You think any other fighter on the UFC roster would pass up this payday? Probably not.

    Are any of them not obsessed with MMA?

    Bit of a straw man


  • #5391
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Just going to throw something out there, will the 3 minute rounds be of benefit to Conor. There have been questions over his endurance over 5 minute rounds so he might be able to put more into a round. Obviously 12 over 5 is a huge difference.
    Or is 3 minutes not enough for him to find his groove?

    He'll be blowing hard by round 5 IMO. If he's to get TKO'd it'll between 5-8. If he makes it past than I think he'll recover and survive. I also don't think Floyd will be going 100%

    I think people in general underestimate the difference the round structure makes.
    Look at it this way;
    An MMA main event is 25work:4rest.
    A boxing match is 36work:11rest

    The 44% increase is fight time is significant. But so is the 175% increase in rest time and increase in rest frequency. Plus as darced pointed out, no grappling makes it less energy intensive.

    Cardio won't be the issue for Conor.


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  • #5392
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    .anyway if he won what chances him going the boxing route full time and ditching mma
    Zero chance. He retire, knowing he was blessed. Laughing his ass off. And never let anyone take it away from him.


  • #5393
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Have yet to see one solid bit of evidence the fight with Floyd is happening, its becoming a farce announce it or **** off.


  • #5394
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think people in general underestimate the difference the round structure makes.
    Look at it this way;
    An MMA main event is 25work:4rest.
    A boxing match is 36work:11rest

    The 44% increase is fight time is significant. But so is the 175% increase in rest time and increase in rest frequency. Plus as darced pointed out, no grappling makes it less energy intensive.

    Cardio won't be the issue for Conor.

    All valid, and the smaller ring means you have less distance to travel too.

    That said punching air is tiring and Conor won't be used to missing so much. I think he'll be struggling at the end of some rounds, especially if he's getting countered.

    At some point too he's gonna be chasing the fight and will prob start throwing heavy, which will lead him to gassing quicker. But as you say he'll have plenty of recovery time.

    I'm also curious what weight the fight will be at. Early indications were Floyd wanted it 147. That cut would certainly affect his cardio and I doubt Conor could even make it under boxings more stringent weight cutting guidelines. 154 is probably more realistic though.


  • #5395
    dashoonage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Have yet to see one solid bit of evidence the fight with Floyd is happening, its becoming a farce announce it or **** off.

    Believe Gamebred Believe....


  • #5396
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Lukker- wrote: »
    All valid, and the smaller ring means you have less distance to travel too.

    That said punching air is tiring and Conor won't be used to missing so much. I think he'll be struggling at the end of some rounds, especially if he's getting countered.

    At some point too he's gonna be chasing the fight and will prob start throwing heavy, which will lead him to gassing quicker. But as you say he'll have plenty of recovery time.

    I'm also curious what weight the fight will be at. Early indications were Floyd wanted it 147. That cut would certainly affect his cardio and I doubt Conor could even make it under boxings more stringent weight cutting guidelines. 154 is probably more realistic though.


    All this madness has to stop i'll be on Shutter Island soon


  • #5397
    red ears
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    Conor will have to insist on 154, he is already entering Floyd's world of boxing, Mayweather can't have everything his way.


  • #5398
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    red ears wrote: »
    Conor will have to insist on 154, he is already entering Floyd's world of boxing, Mayweather can't have everything his way.

    LOL you clearly don't know Mayweather. He got his own way against some Boxing greats, he'll get anything he wants against a novice. I'd guess a potential fight would be at 150-152.


  • #5399
    red ears
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    Burial. wrote: »
    LOL you clearly don't know Mayweather. He got his own way against some Boxing greats, he'll get anything he wants against a novice. I'd guess a potential fight would be at 150-152.

    If conor agrees to 147 then he clearly knows he is in for a beating and is just looking for the big payday. It wouldn't be worth watching.


  • #5400
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    red ears wrote: »
    If conor agrees to 147 then he clearly knows he is in for a beating and is just looking for the big payday. It wouldn't be worth watching.

    Weight limit could be at 200 lbs and it's still a payday for a beating/not worth watching. It's akin to watching people jumping from a burning building, not worth watching but you still do. I can't believe people think a novice has a chance against any established pro, let alone the best of the last 20 years. I've said it before, only way Floyd loses this potential fight is if is ankles snap clean off.


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  • #5401
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    red ears wrote: »
    If conor agrees to 147 then he clearly knows he is in for a beating and is just looking for the big payday. It wouldn't be worth watching.

    If you mean in a competitive context that it won't be worth watching, I'm afraid it's going to be the same result if it's 147 or 154. Floyd boxing the head off him and probably an early finish. It's a pure spectacle not any kind of athletic competition.


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