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Solicitors Fees

  • 13-06-2017 08:25AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭


    Not sure if this is the correct part of the forum to ask this question but the mods can move the post as they see fit.

    I just need to ask if anyone who has dealt directly with a solicitor in the wake of a parent's death has had to pay separate fees for having the solicitor deal with the legal process and sale of property or is this all inclusive?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    No point asking here- ask your solicitor


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    Not sure if this is the correct part of the forum to ask this question but the mods can move the post as they see fit.

    I just need to ask if anyone who has dealt directly with a solicitor in the wake of a parent's death has had to pay separate fees for having the solicitor deal with the legal process and sale of property or is this all inclusive?

    As in everything else in life and especially with solicitor's. If you have the strength for it, shop around and bargain with them. Mod. Rant removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    As in everything else in life and especially with solicitor's. If you have the strength for it, shop around and bargain with them. Mod . Rant removed

    plus VAT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    Not sure if this is the correct part of the forum to ask this question but the mods can move the post as they see fit.

    I just need to ask if anyone who has dealt directly with a solicitor in the wake of a parent's death has had to pay separate fees for having the solicitor deal with the legal process and sale of property or is this all inclusive?

    There are two separate processes here namely probate and conveyancing. Properly speaking there could be two separate accounts for two different transactions like two separate charges for fillings in two different teeth.

    As others say, shop around. The costs involved may be quite considerable and the quotes could be quite disparate. Before engaging a solicitor you should obtain a section 68 letter that gives you an estimate of the likely probable costs involved. Beware however that no solicitor is likely give you a precise fixed price as they can encounter unknown complexities that only reveal themselves as they go about the work involved.

    The best option is to engage a solicitor who might be persuaded to give you an omnibus account for doing both transactions bearing in mind the preceding observations. In other words you have negotiating power i.e. you are giving them the probate work and dangling the prospect of the conveyancing work.

    Please remember that you do not have to use the solicitor who drafted the will unless they are nominated as an executor. Also, you do not have to retain the solicitor who completes probate to then complete subsequent conveyancing unless you contract a deal to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭industrialhorse


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    There are two separate processes here namely probate and conveyancing. Properly speaking there could be two separate accounts for two different transactions like two separate charges for fillings in two different teeth.

    As others say, shop around. The costs involved may be quite considerable and the quotes could be quite disparate. Before engaging a solicitor you should obtain a section 68 letter that gives you an estimate of the likely probable costs involved. Beware however that no solicitor is likely give you a precise fixed price as they can encounter unknown complexities that only reveal themselves as they go about the work involved.

    The best option is to engage a solicitor who might be persuaded to give you an omnibus account for doing both transactions bearing in mind the preceding observations. In other words you have negotiating power i.e. you are giving them the probate work and dangling the prospect of the conveyancing work.

    Please remember that you do not have to use the solicitor who drafted the will unless they are nominated as an executor. Also, you do not have to retain the solicitor who completes probate to then complete subsequent conveyancing unless you contract a deal to do so.

    Thanks for your advice. Much appreciated


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    My own personal experience is that my elderly parents were quoted something like €400 to have a document witnessed. The solicitor across the road did it for free. Solicitors are mortal human beings like the rest of and subject to the same natural law of supply and demand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Mod note:

    Off topic backseat moderation deleted. Please keep on topic and if issues arise on thread, either report them or contact the relevant moderator by PM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,968 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Not sure if this is the correct part of the forum to ask this question but the mods can move the post as they see fit.

    I just need to ask if anyone who has dealt directly with a solicitor in the wake of a parent's death has had to pay separate fees for having the solicitor deal with the legal process and sale of property or is this all inclusive?

    Always shop around.

    Always get a quote in advance.

    The web is full of stories of people being charged 10k+ for probate of simple estates.

    Mod. Rant deleted. always get a quote in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,968 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Also consider that the executor could do the probate and avoid the massive fees charged by most sol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭industrialhorse


    Geuze wrote: »
    Also consider that the executor could do the probate and avoid the massive fees charged by most sol.

    We are taking the probate path but it has its own list of fees and solicitors still need to be called upon for advice and witnessing the signing of specific documents so at this stage all I am looking for, primarily, is the quickest way to get things done and, secondarily, the most cost effective way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    We are taking the probate path but it has its own list of fees and solicitors still need to be called upon for advice and witnessing the signing of specific documents so at this stage all I am looking for, primarily, is the quickest way to get things done and, secondarily, the most cost effective way.

    Not legal advice - just some pointers on the general subject.

    You can, as an executor, make a personal application to take out a Grant of Probate. I think that the stamp duty payable by a personal applicant is slightly higher than if you use a solicitor. A solicitor would be required to witness the CA24 Revenue Affidavit but that should only be a minimal charge. (It only cost me about €20 five years ago to get it witnessed by a local solicitor.)

    Lead in times to get personal applications completed vary over time. Ask the Probate Office - link http://www.courts.ie/offices.nsf/6501643ba9c14a9680256e43003d68a4/be735bced234bbbc80256e45005861c7?OpenDocument

    If you are not completely confident that you can deal with the technicalities of a personal probate application you would be better off getting a solicitor to do it as you do not want to start it and give up half way through before retaining a solicitor. I think that solicitors can get the process completed sooner than a personal applicant. Be aware however that the Probate Office can direct a personal applicant to make the application through a solicitor.

    A personal application saves you the solicitor's fees.

    If you are pressed for time use a solicitor but take the time to select the best deal - instruct in haste and suffer financially at your leisure........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭CryWolf


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    There are two separate processes here namely probate and conveyancing. Properly speaking there could be two separate accounts for two different transactions like two separate charges for fillings in two different teeth.

    As others say, shop around. The costs involved may be quite considerable and the quotes could be quite disparate. Before engaging a solicitor you should obtain a section 68 letter that gives you an estimate of the likely probable costs involved. Beware however that no solicitor is likely give you a precise fixed price as they can encounter unknown complexities that only reveal themselves as they go about the work involved.

    The best option is to engage a solicitor who might be persuaded to give you an omnibus account for doing both transactions bearing in mind the preceding observations. In other words you have negotiating power i.e. you are giving them the probate work and dangling the prospect of the conveyancing work.

    Please remember that you do not have to use the solicitor who drafted the will unless they are nominated as an executor. Also, you do not have to retain the solicitor who completes probate to then complete subsequent conveyancing unless you contract a deal to do so.

    NUTLEY BOY

    That is great advice, would you or could you recommend a solicitor who would be willing to give an omnibus account before engaging them?

    Mod
    Sorry, such recommendations not allowed here.
    Closed


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