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Guinness

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  • #92
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A more English drink than porter is hard to conceive of (even ale has been drunk in Ireland for centuries longer than Guinness)

    And they weren't drinking ale in England during those long centuries either?
    It'd be very difficult to claim 'ale' as Ireland's unique drink I think!
    a company with a history of widespread discrimination against Irish Catholics

    How very Irish of them. I'm waiting for your essay on the widespread discrimination against Irish Protestants by the free state.
    And then there is the Guinness company's strong opposition to Irish independence and financing and political support for British rule over Ireland/unionism. Google Guinness and "Easter Rising" and you'll get an idea. Not to mention that Guinness has officially been a British company since the 1930s.

    Because obviously it was impossible in the late 19th and early 20th centuries to think of oneself as Irish and British?
    It's public knowledge that the reason Guinness did that in the 1930s was because of Dev's insane nationalist economic war against Britain.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #93
    Persephone kindness
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Jesus cripes even this turns into an Irish British thing...where is the love?


  • #94
    Persephone kindness
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Does anyone even go to church?

    Protestants and Catholics both don't go to church ...both go to pubs.

    Ah the pub..i don't even drink..long live the pub though!


  • #95
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Does anyone even go to church?
    Protestants and Catholics both don't go to church ...both go to pubs.
    Ah the pub..i don't even drink..long live the pub though!

    I think this is a version of, I don't go to church, I don't believe in God, but by god I hope Celtic stuff Rangers :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #96
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,676 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Hopefully.


    Guinness, the greatest conjob in the history of marketing in Ireland. Fair play to them.

    A more English drink than porter is hard to conceive of (even ale has been drunk in Ireland for centuries longer than Guinness), a company with a history of widespread discrimination against Irish Catholics (its first Catholic manager was only appointed in the late 1940s, after WW2 had left them with a shortage from their traditional recruitment pool - to be euphemistic about it) is equally difficult to imagine - but most of the banks, insurance companies and equally unIrish whiskey distillery families gave them a mighty run for their money when it came to keeping the Tadhgs out.

    And then there is the Guinness company's strong opposition to Irish independence and financing and political support for British rule over Ireland/unionism. Google Guinness and "Easter Rising" and you'll get an idea. Not to mention that Guinness has officially been a British company since the 1930s.

    As I said, fair play to Guinness for getting a large number of Irish people to see their company, of all companies, as a symbol of Irish identity and indeed to get defensive when the decidedly anti-Irish politics of Guinness is highlighted. Marketing genius at a truly inspirational level.

    Real story of 250-year quest for the perfect pint

    And more on anti-Irishness of Guinness here

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/03/economist-explains-13


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  • #97
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭flutered


    hereabouts there are couple of private importers of barreled drink, mainly from n.i. i know of one where a flick of a little arm controls the quality of the black stuff from drinkable to undrinkable, i used to frequent the spot until the owner attempted to have me sitting at the counter, with a view of the control arms, i was welcomer to sit where i could not see the mechanics of the control of the barrels


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