Guinness

Paddy The Pirate · 10-06-2017 08:40PM #1

Is the old pint of pure dying a death?
Seems like every second pub I visit is serving absolute muck!

Don't know if there's a downturn in drinkers, and, as a result, care for quality, or if I'm just in the wrong pubs !

Stigura · 10-06-2017 08:43PM

I find the man from the Guinness Mafia (in his little black van) tends to run the show. They set it to ice cold.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-06-2017 08:43PM

Depends on the pub and how they keep their taps.

snowflaker · 10-06-2017 08:44PM

So much effort for a drink on the wain

iLikeWaffles · 10-06-2017 08:51PM

You're just not going into the right pubs buddy.... From what I seen growing up it got more popular than it was and I've been working in pubs 20 years.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-06-2017 08:52PM

Guinness in fairness went to hell after the family sold out.

Arthur would not be happy with the current arrangement. It was a family business that was supposed to be passed down through the generations of the Guinness family.

Persephone kindness · 10-06-2017 08:55PM

Men Die.

Recipes for brewing do not.

Is it not all the same stuff? I wouldn't know.I don't drink it...:)

Hulk Hands · 10-06-2017 08:58PM

Find the standard of a pint to be very good generally in Dublin at least. Think its becoming more popular than ever with young males

Solomon Pleasant · 10-06-2017 08:59PM

I've tried Guinness in Donegal.

I've tried Guinness in Dublin.

Both were awful. The stuff is vile, I don't understand how it became so popular and famous initially. Perhaps I've been unlucky in the pubs I've visited, but I don't think I'll buy a pint of Guinness any time soon.

snowflaker · 10-06-2017 09:00PM

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

You're just not going into the right pubs buddy.... From what I seen growing up it got more popular than it was and I've been working in pubs 20 years.

I don't go into very many pubs

Persephone kindness · 10-06-2017 09:01PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Guinness in fairness went to hell after the family sold out.
It was a family business that was supposed to be passed down through the generations of the Guinness family.

Once offered on the stock Exchange that is not the case. It can even be rare for a family to be a majority share holder many times.

The only held like 10 % in the 80s anyway.

Grab All Association · 10-06-2017 09:03PM

To Martha

buried · 10-06-2017 09:04PM

I get the Guinness West Indies bottle any time I'm in a place that has it, or get a few for home. Not so much in Summer though, its a winter thang. Good stuff tho

Persephone kindness · 10-06-2017 09:04PM

I just googled the family owns like 1 % share and none of them sit on the board or have for years ..

What does it taste like? :P

Persephone kindness · 10-06-2017 09:05PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

To Martha

Who's Martha

Well Ok ...TO YOU MARTHA!

:p:p:) CHEERS!

CeilingFly · 10-06-2017 09:06PM

Pint bottle served from the open shelf is best. Try it.

mikemac2 · 10-06-2017 09:08PM

Drink Murphys OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTczq_S4dEM

Yourself isit · 10-06-2017 09:16PM

buried wrote: »

I get the Guinness West Indies bottle any time I'm in a place that has it, or get a few for home. Not so much in Summer though, its a winter thang. Good stuff tho

That stuff is good. Can't find it anywhere.

Normal Guinness is the blandest of blandest tastes.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-06-2017 09:19PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Drink Murphys OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTczq_S4dEM

I remember ordering a pint of Guinness down there once and the cute Cork hoor behind the bar got smart with me. He said we drink Murphys down here.

I said I drink stout and the real stout is G not that sh1te that ye drink down here.

On reading the Guinness biography I learned that there was once a huge rivalry between the Guinness and Murphy families.

Initially they both agreed to stay out of each others areas. As Guinness grew they renaged on that agreement and broke into Cork.

buried · 10-06-2017 09:22PM

Yourself isit wrote: »

That stuff is good. Can't find it anywhere.

Normal Guinness is the blandest of blandest tastes.

Was in Dublin last weekend and a good few places had it, but yeah out the country its hard to get, which is a huge shame as its a great brew.
I stocked up on a good bit of it from Irish online off-licences last two winters gone. Its a great winter drink

hatrickpatrick · 10-06-2017 09:26PM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Who's Martha

Well Ok ...TO YOU MARTHA! :p:p:) CHEERS!

Holy sh!t, now I feel old

Lucena · 10-06-2017 09:30PM

Guinness realised they were losing market share big time as the oul fellas who were their core market were getting older and older, so they basically upped the marketing and blanded the ****e out of it.
They basically admit as much on some of their old-style bottles, saying something along the lines of "if you drank Guinness between 1759 and 1978(ish not sure of exact year" this is what Guinness tasted like.
So without coming out and saying it, they've been changing the recipe for years.

Someone above mentioned West Indies Guinness. Not sure if it's a variety that already existed, or a recent invention, but by Jesus is it a great beer!

CeilingFly · 10-06-2017 09:35PM

Lucena wrote: »

Guinness realised they were losing market share big time as the oul fellas who were their core market were getting older and older, so they basically upped the marketing and blanded the ****e out of it.
They basically admit as much on some of their old-style bottles, saying something along the lines of "if you drank Guinness between 1759 and 1978(ish not sure of exact year" this is what Guinness tasted like.
So without coming out and saying it, they've been changing the recipe for years.

Someone above mentioned West Indies Guinness. Not sure if it's a variety that already existed, or a recent invention, but by Jesus is it a great beer!

I'd disagree - what has changed is the temperature it is served at. The more chilled, the less taste.

Pint bottles at about 12 degrees will give you a real taste of Guinness and other stouts / dark beers.

ToddyDoody · 10-06-2017 09:48PM

Guiness is probably the only ale someone could poo in and you wouldn't notice.

(Not that anyone wanted to know that)

Lucena · 10-06-2017 09:50PM

I don't think we're disagreeing, Ceilingfly. The idea that beer has to be served colder than cold is a fairly recent marketing idea, but as per wine, certain beers should be served cold, and others not.
The original pint bottles (now that I think of it that's where the "if you drank Guinness" blurb came from) have good Guinness, but even my occasional local (when I'm back to Ireland) has stopped serving it, as the aul fellas have died.
People aren't used to tasting beer at a temperature higher than Marketing SubZero©, and anything ressembling taste is with O'Leary in the grave.

OldMrBrennan83 · 10-06-2017 09:51PM

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buried · 10-06-2017 09:52PM

The Kinnegar 'Flying Saucer' stout is also good stuff. Donegal Brewery from Rathmullen. All their beers are very very good. They do a wide range. Highly recommended

harry Bailey esq · 10-06-2017 09:53PM

buried wrote: »

I get the Guinness West Indies bottle any time I'm in a place that has it, or get a few for home. Not so much in Summer though, its a winter thang. Good stuff tho

Knock you sideways after bottles mind,and im up there with the best in terms of intake.Neat whiskey being my poison. I've just poured a Guinness Irish wheat,it packs a little punch at 5.3% but it tastes a bit like that Breo stuff they had out years ago. Sh'ite really.

Chancer3001 · 10-06-2017 09:55PM

I know a fella working in the brewery.

He says the mix has changed for the cheaper in the last decade. And to make up for this they set the taps to a colder temperature. So cold that's it's almost flavourlrss and it's the consistency you're enjoying more than the taste.

Only way you get good pints now is with temperature control set by the man behind the bar , and short run from keg to tap.

You're only likely to find this in out of the way bars where the quality control team would never check.

Which is why Guinness often tastes way better in old man pubs or small country pubs

Noveight · 10-06-2017 10:07PM

Murphy's for me, miles ahead of Guinness imo.

Have been meaning to try other less popular stouts.

Gringo180 · 10-06-2017 10:10PM

The large bottles of Guinness are much nicer. Gee eyed on 6 of them they go down like water.

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