2017 UK General Election - 8th June

Akrasia · 09-06-2017 02:02AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Tory take Anus from SNP 16% swing

This is not good news for May as the Scottish Conservatives were given room to do their thing instead of following the English line.

Is that a big swing for Anus?

Arthur Daley · 09-06-2017 02:05AM

So farage can see a brexit delay now. And possibly a second referendum.

Says he will be back in to fight it.. calls may fatally damaged. What an interesting few hours.

Breath of fresh air this election

BlitzKrieg · 09-06-2017 02:06AM

and that he's coming back to politics possibly

no

please no

he's such a slimey sh*t

super_furry · 09-06-2017 02:06AM

And the end of the day, all that this is going to do, is lead to Prime Minister Boris. The Tories will scrape in, maybe with the help of the Lib Dems, May will be hauled out on her arse and Johnson will be PM.

prinzeugen · 09-06-2017 02:08AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

:eek:. Forgot the 'g' there........

On a more serious note what the status on indyref 2 tonight I wonder? Fading away or still on the agenda if a Lab/SNP plus whoever else grouping can be formed?

The SNP will push for another referendum regardless. Even if they loose seats they will paint it as some sort of victory.

Its shocking that the Labour supporters are booing and hissing when the returning officers are announcing the votes for other candidates.

Happening in most of the results that have been shown live on BBC or Sky.

Arthur Daley · 09-06-2017 02:08AM

10% labour swings in london routine now

devnull · 09-06-2017 02:09AM

Sky saying tories being withdrawn from media interviews

dark crystal · 09-06-2017 02:10AM

Labour gain Bury North from Conservative.

devnull · 09-06-2017 02:10AM

Labour gain bury north from con

Kh1993 · 09-06-2017 02:11AM

Labour win Bury North by 3,000+. Was mentioned as one Tories may hold marginally.

09-06-2017 02:11AM

Arthur Daley wrote: »

So farage can see a brexit delay now. And possibly a second referendum.

Says he will be back in to fight it.. calls may fatally damaged. What an interesting few hours.

Breath of fresh air this election

He looks pretty glum. Remarkable night. The out of the single market, out of the customs union, basically out of everything form of Brexit so treasured by him and others is no longer certain to be delivered.

AllGunsBlazing · 09-06-2017 02:11AM

super_furry wrote: »

And the end of the day, all that this is going to do, is lead to Prime Minister Boris. The Tories will scrape in, maybe with the help of the Lib Dems, May will be hauled out on her arse and Johnson will be PM.

Lib Dems will only enter a coalition if they're guaranteed a second Brexit referendum.

4068ac1elhodqr · 09-06-2017 02:12AM

super_furry wrote: »

And the end of the day, all that this is going to do, is lead to Prime Minister Boris. The Tories will scrape in, maybe with the help of the Lib Dems, May will be hauled out on her arse and Johnson will be PM.

Can't see it. Would you get in a bus/boat/train or plane with Boris at the helm? I'd be looking for the emergency glass exit.

The LD will get in bed with Labour, the question is who else SNP, Greens (if the have any seats) and the SDLP, Alliance even. #BrexitSabotage

markodaly · 09-06-2017 02:12AM

Kind of amazing, May was certain of a 100+ seat majority 6 weeks ago, now it looks like they are well short of a majority.

super_furry · 09-06-2017 02:12AM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Lib Dems will only enter a coalition if they're guaranteed a second Brexit referendum.

So they said in the build-up, but they'll jump at the chance to get back into government - especially Faron. They'll sell the line that they're going to moderate the Tories Brexit negotiating stance and then they'll just lie back and do what they're told.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-06-2017 02:13AM

prinzeugen wrote: »

The SNP will push for another referendum regardless. Even if they loose seats they will paint it as some sort of victory.

I don't know, is winning the majority of the seats in your country a victory ?

bilston · 09-06-2017 02:13AM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Lib Dems will only enter a coalition if they're guaranteed a second Brexit referendum.

There is hope.

markodaly · 09-06-2017 02:15AM

Damien Rapping Hamster wrote: »

Can't see it. Would you get in a bus/boat/train or plane with Boris at the helm? I'd be looking for the emergency glass exit.

The LD will get in bed with Labour, the question is who else SNP, Greens (if the have any seats) and the SDLP, Alliance even. #BrexitSabotage

The issues here is though Labour have committed to Brexit, which pulled in a lot of UKIP voters. If labour just change their mind, well you can kiss those votes goodbye. Corbyn appeared sincere and genuine and many voters warmed to that, if he changes his mind, he will be cast as just another lying politician.

LibDems are still pro remain, how do you reconcile that?

prinzeugen · 09-06-2017 02:17AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I don't know, is winning the majority of the seats in your country a victory ?

The results are not in yet.. The SNP will ignore the Westminster result if the end up worse off.

Edit. Another loss to the SNP to Conservative.

Leonard Hofstadter · 09-06-2017 02:18AM

bilston wrote: »

There is hope.

They've already lost a seat in Leeds, and Nick Clegg (former Deputy PM let's not forget) is likely to lose his, so they're not going to be relevant.

But the fact that UKIP is gone and the Tories are losing seats is undoubtedly a good thing as it makes a hard Brexit far less likely. This is also very good news for Ireland as the less that changes between us and the UK, the better.

Oh, and the exit poll has been updated, the Tories are going to get 322 seats now apparently and the Lib Dems will still somehow get 13. Labour are now projected to get 262 while the SNP are predicted to do even worse, at just 32 seats.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-06-2017 02:18AM

Akrasia wrote: »

Is that a big swing for Anus?

Don't know , will get to the bottom of this.

Also DUP hold East Derry

09-06-2017 02:19AM

markodaly wrote: »

The issues here is though Labour have committed to Brexit, which pulled in a lot of UKIP voters. If labour just change their mind, well you can kiss those votes goodbye. Corbyn appeared sincere and genuine and many voters warmed to that, if he changes his mind, he will be cast as just another lying politician.

LibDems are still pro remain, how do you reconcile that?

Negotiate a Brexit deal and have a referendum on that. Certainties under Theresa May such as an 'all out' Brexit are now gone.

super_furry · 09-06-2017 02:19AM

Jesus, the way things are going it might be Scotland that keep the Tories in power.

devnull · 09-06-2017 02:19AM

Two tory gains from snp

Arthur Daley · 09-06-2017 02:20AM

So nearly 2.30 before the first reforecast. Tories up to 322 now. With 8 dup they could just make it work and struggle along but it's very dodgy for any length of time.

Labour down 5 to 261
Snp down 2 to 32
Lib dems down a few to just 13

bilston · 09-06-2017 02:21AM

captainspeed wrote: »

They've already lost a seat in Leeds, and Nick Clegg (former Deputy PM let's not forget) is likely to lose his, so they're not going to be relevant.

But the fact that UKIP is gone and the Tories are losing seats is undoubtedly a good thing as it makes a hard Brexit far less likely. This is also very good news for Ireland as the less that changes between us and the UK, the better.

Oh, and the exit poll has been updated, the Tories are going to get 322 seats now apparently and the Lib Dems will still somehow get 13. Labour are now projected to get 262 while the SNP are predicted to do even worse, at just 32 seats.

BBC have changed their forecast a bit from the Exit poll.

Tories predicted to get 322 seats which means May will hang on. Just a forecast though.

Oat23 · 09-06-2017 02:21AM

super_furry wrote: »

Jesus, the way things are going it might be Scotland that keep the Tories in power.

And in an amazing turn of events it will be England calling for an independence vote to be free of Scotland.

4068ac1elhodqr · 09-06-2017 02:21AM

markodaly wrote: »

The issues here is though Labour have committed to Brexit, which pulled in a lot of UKIP voters. If labour just change their mind, well you can kiss those votes goodbye. Corbyn appeared sincere and genuine and many voters warmed to that, if he changes his mind, he will be cast as just another lying politician.

LibDems are still pro remain, how do you reconcile that?

Lab implied they'll 'do brexit' if they 'have to' (which at that time they had no position to argue). The LDems are not to be trusted with any promises, ask any student. The SNP love waving the EU flags. Add in a few more smaller parties to get over the line.

Leonard Hofstadter · 09-06-2017 02:21AM

Angus Roberston gone to the Tories, unfortunately. I really liked him and thought he was very effective at probing Mrs May.

I mightn't have liked Ruth Davidson's tactics but it's clear she knew what she was doing with the Scottish unionist electorate, she's had a stunning election for the Tories in Scotland.

The Lib Dems have just gained an SNP seat, with Glasgow East expected to go to Labour - that's one of the few predictions about a leave vote that will be proven false (that it would lead to an independent Scotland).

Capt'n Midnight · 09-06-2017 02:23AM

super_furry wrote: »

Jesus, the way things are going it might be Scotland that keep the Tories in power.

Again this will count against May as it's a victory for Ruth Davidson and the Scottish Conservatives.

2017 UK General Election - 8th June

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