Saudi Arabian Football Team Refuse Minutes Silence for Terror Attacks

pangbang · 08-06-2017 06:40PM #1

Its all over media, not sure which article to quote so heres the first one to pop up

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/saudi-arabian-players-fail-to-observe-a-minutes-silence-in-memory-of-london-terror-victims-35803139.html

Its interesting to me because the usual defence totted out to justify these terrorists is "not all muslims", "they're mentally ill", etc. Exceptions up the wazoo.

But what about those that don't act, but secretly condone the killings? I suppose its impossible to measure, but I doubt its a small number.

The wahabi nuts in Saudi Arabia are obviously "okay" with what happened. As a matter of fact, the blatant disregard for a minutes silence goes much further, it actually demonstrates their support for terrorism.

You could say its just the Saudi's in charge, but a bit of common sense goes a long way, there simply must be a lot of silent support for whats happening.

So what do you do about that? I mean, the oil situation is a disaster when it comes to making changes, but how long do we continue to tolerate such nonsense. And when it comes to the sheer incompatibility of modern Europe with the millions coming here/living here already....how can you trust that someone who "condemns" terrorism (what else will they do?) actually means it? It flys in the face of their belief system.

Rather than just lie down like defeated eejits hugging each other, what can proactively be done to combat this?

steddyeddy · 08-06-2017 06:43PM

Saudi Arabia is what a a state would look like if it was set up by IS. It is an Islamic state.

Hande hoche! · 08-06-2017 06:44PM

The Saudis seem to be strong contenders for most unlikable country.

Stigura · 08-06-2017 06:46PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The Saudis seem to be strong contenders for most unlikable country.

Yep. " Ah; They're a grand bunch of lads! " doesn't exactly trip off the tongue, does it?

Realt Dearg Sec · 08-06-2017 06:51PM

The first thing you would want the West to do is cut its ties with SA. It is essentially a client state of America, and it is an utter embarrassment. No country with any ties to SA can have any moral authority to pontificate on subjects like fundamentalism, terrorism, or human rights. That state is an absolute cancer.

Zebra3 · 08-06-2017 06:54PM

It's time to end minute's silence at sports events for stuff that happens abroad.

Minute's since for Manchester victims all the rage, minute's silence for the victims of the terrorist attack in Tehrana? Dream on.

A hierarchy of victims.

Auldloon · 08-06-2017 06:54PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

The Saudis seem to be strong contenders for most unlikable country.

Yup! I've been there a few times and I've not got a single nice thing to say about them. They look at us as if we're something unpleasant on their flip flop.

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 06:56PM

Toss up between North Korea and SA for biggest ****holes in the world

major bill · 08-06-2017 06:57PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Toss up between North Korea and SA for biggest ****holes in the world

Not overly convinced the average North Korean is a wanker but there is a lot of evidence to suggest the average Saudi is an absolute ****!!!

08-06-2017 06:57PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's time to end minute's silence at sports events for stuff that happens abroad.

Minute's since for Manchester victims all the rage, minute's silence for the victims of the terrorist attack in Tehrana? Dream on.

A hierarchy of victims.

Match was in Australia
2 Australians died in London???????

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 06:57PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's time to end minute's silence at sports events for stuff that happens abroad.

Minute's since for Manchester victims all the rage, minute's silence for the victims of the terrorist attack in Tehrana? Dream on.

A hierarchy of victims.

An Australian died in the attack, maybe that was more the reason why

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 06:59PM

major bill wrote: »

Not overly convinced the average North Korean is a wanker but there is a lot of evidence to suggest the average Saudi is an absolute ****!!!

Yeh I agree actually. I have a Saudi arabian friend who is not even lesbian but she's merely accepting of gay people and advocates others to be more accepting as well, and she's bullied in school for that for her peers

Donald Trump · 08-06-2017 06:59PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's time to end minute's silence at sports events for stuff that happens abroad.

Minute's since for Manchester victims all the rage, minute's silence for the victims of the terrorist attack in Tehrana? Dream on.

A hierarchy of victims.

Hierarchy me hole. Was in Australia and was for two Australians who died in the attack

Educate yourself

buried · 08-06-2017 07:00PM

Good luck seeing these people give a 'minutes silence' for anything. They're ruled by a dictatorship regime what crucifies women as witches on a friday morning for walking down the f**king street

pangbang · 08-06-2017 07:01PM

The power they wield through oil is gigantic. Very difficult to deal with.

Meanwhile, they are using that pivotal power to donate vast sums of money to establish mosques throughout Europe.

Millions pouring into Europe of their same belief system (and I defend the word "pouring" because the numbers are huge), while Saudi Arabia takes barely any refugees/immigrants.

Europe doing nothing to stop it.

I mean, at what freaking point do you call a spade a spade, they are laying the foundation of a non-hostile takeover. They have long term plans, and its all coming together beautifully.

And once past the foundation part and the numbers are on their side, it'll go very quickly to hostile.

Its not that they are extremely clever, a chimp can see whats happening. The blame lies at our feet for ALLOWING it to happen.

Panthro · 08-06-2017 07:03PM

Will the West ever say "F it, let's leave them lot alone".
And literally have zero to do with them.

08-06-2017 07:04PM

Panthro wrote: »

Will the West ever say "F it, let's leave them lot alone".
And literally have zero to do with them.

When all their oil is gone is the harsh reality

08-06-2017 07:05PM

Is it in any way comparable to James McClean refusing to wear a poppy or stand for the British anthem? I mean, that argument has been done to death, he has his reasons, some find them perfectly fine, some don't. But can we be selective about which events players should mark and get with the programme, and which they should be entitled to ignore or object to?

Stephen15 · 08-06-2017 07:05PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's time to end minute's silence at sports events for stuff that happens abroad.

Minute's since for Manchester victims all the rage, minute's silence for the victims of the terrorist attack in Tehrana? Dream on.

A hierarchy of victims.

Or maybe only have minutes silence for events releated to the sport. Such as former players or managers dying etc.

pangbang · 08-06-2017 07:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

When all their oil is gone is the harsh reality

Oh you better believe that they know that. That's why they are doing their best to move "there" over to "here".

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 07:08PM

pangbang wrote: »

The power they wield through oil is gigantic. Very difficult to deal with.

Meanwhile, they are using that pivotal power to donate vast sums of money to establish mosques throughout Europe.

Millions pouring into Europe of their same belief system (and I defend the word "pouring" because the numbers are huge), while Saudi Arabia takes barely any refugees/immigrants.

Europe doing nothing to stop it.

I mean, at what freaking point do you call a spade a spade, they are laying the foundation of a non-hostile takeover. They have long term plans, and its all coming together beautifully.

And once past the foundation part and the numbers are on their side, it'll go very quickly to hostile.

Its not that they are extremely clever, a chimp can see whats happening. The blame lies at our feet for ALLOWING it to happen.

Karma will hit them hard when the oil runs out and they have nothing but sand to export. Then they'll be sorry for what they did to the rest of the world when none of us give a **** about their suffering

08-06-2017 07:08PM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Or maybe only have minutes silence for events releated to the sport. Such as former players or managers dying etc.

Players are of course prevented from expressing political sentiments. So it is inevitable that when the authorities deem an event should be marked, players might object. Limiting it to sports events would remove any political element and avoid incidents like today.

RustyNut · 08-06-2017 07:10PM

Panthro wrote: »

Will the West ever say "F it, let's leave them lot alone".
And literally have zero to do with them.

Not while they are dropping hundreds of billions of dollars to the big western powers for weapons and other killing and torture equipment. Great bunch of lads according to May and Trump.

And another few billion to isis their Wahabi bedfellows, so to speak. Freedom and democracy my hole when their is a few quid involved.

pangbang · 08-06-2017 07:12PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Karma will hit them hard when the oil runs out and they have nothing but sand to export. Then they'll be sorry for what they did to the rest of the world when none of us give a **** about their suffering

As I said above, they know that its going to run out.

So what would you do in that situation?

Make the best of the temporary power, and establish the same belief system across the world. Who cares when they run out of oil then, they (as in their religion) will be everywhere in charge.

It called long term planning.

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 07:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Players are of course prevented from expressing political sentiments. So it is inevitable that when the authorities deem an event should be marked, players might object. Limiting it to sports events would remove any political element and avoid incidents like today.

Or maybe have the respect to stay silent for one minute for innocent people killed in an event deemed personal/tragic by the country hosting you

Imagine the australian team not staying silent for a minute for saudi arabians killed in a terrorist attack
Simply wouldnt happen. They're taught common decency in australia

Zebra3 · 08-06-2017 07:14PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Hierarchy me hole. Was in Australia and was for two Australians who died in the attack

Educate yourself

I'm perfectly educated, thank you.

If no Australians had been caught up in the attack, there still would've been a minute's silence because it happened in Britain. That's the reality of the situation.

Richard Hillman · 08-06-2017 07:15PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Karma will hit them hard when the oil runs out and they have nothing but sand to export. Then they'll be sorry for what they did to the rest of the world when none of us give a **** about their suffering

That's why they are trying to flood Europe. Their religious beliefs make them seem a bit stupid but we cannot underestimate them. They have a post-oil plan and they are not going to down the UAE route of opening the place up as a financial center. Its command and conquer.

wakka12 · 08-06-2017 07:15PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm perfectly educated, thank you.

If no Australians had been caught up in the attack, there still would've been a minute's silence because it happened in Britain. That's the reality of the situation.

and..? Its australia, they can have minutes silence for what they want
Ireland would do the same had irish been killed in the attack
as would every country
Bar an exceptional event where a large number of people were killed regardless of nationality of victims, if the country is an ally

Your Face · 08-06-2017 07:16PM

I've never been.

Thinkingaboutit · 08-06-2017 07:18PM

Bad form from the Saudis. I hope there is some sort of sanction from FIFA.

pangbang · 08-06-2017 07:23PM

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Bad form from the Saudis. I hope there is some sort of sanction from FIFA.

My original questions went far beyond a football team of eleven getting a slap on the ankle, there are far bigger things at play here.

This single incident is just an example of something deeply insidious.

Saudi Arabian Football Team Refuse Minutes Silence for Terror Attacks

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