Guinness Mid-Strength

AzcuzCoz · 06-06-2017 01:46AM

I have only just got my licence and am driving an 05 VW Passat.

I am just curious - is Guinness a less dangerous alcohol for say a 13 year-old boy than a vodka? I think it is. Tell me what harm there is with a 13 year old lad drinking let's say a 1/4 of a Guinness. I'll then explain why I'm asking.

FanadMan · 06-06-2017 02:47AM

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

I have only just got my licence and am driving an 05 VW Passat.

I am just curious - is Guinness a less dangerous alcohol for say a 13 year-old boy than a vodka? I think it is. Tell me what harm there is with a 13 year old lad drinking let's say a 1/4 of a Guinness. I'll then explain why I'm asking.

I'm out of this - no way I'm going to answer questions about a 13 year old drinking. Go ask a parent or teacher.

L1011 · 06-06-2017 08:09AM

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

I have only just got my licence and am driving an 05 VW Passat.

I am just curious - is Guinness a less dangerous alcohol for say a 13 year-old boy than a vodka? I think it is. Tell me what harm there is with a 13 year old lad drinking let's say a 1/4 of a Guinness. I'll then explain why I'm asking.

The 13 year old can't biologically be your kid so you can't legally supply them alcohol

Gloomtastic! · 06-06-2017 08:58AM

If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll and behaves like a troll, it probably is a troll!!!

OP cut the nonsense or you will face a full-strength banning!!

rubadub · 06-06-2017 03:59PM

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

Why isn't it sold everywhere?

Was it not popular or something?

What was different about it compared to the normal stuff?

I think a big factor was since they were charging the same, or around about the same.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html

Exceeding 1.2% volume but not exceeding 2.8% volume 11.27 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer
Exceeding 2.8% volume 22.55 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer

The duty on a pint of 4.2% is 53.8cent

The duty on a 2.8% is 17.9cent (presuming they picked 2.8% as it is at the limit, maybe it has to be 2.79% to be definitely in the lower limit).

mikeecho · 07-06-2017 05:50PM

I've reported this thread..

Obvious troll.

And no action taken. ( yet my post on westy is edited).

Come on.. report this thread

07-06-2017 05:58PM

rubadub wrote: »

I think a big factor was since they were charging the same, or around about the same.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html

The duty on a pint of 4.2% is 53.8cent

The duty on a 2.8% is 17.9cent (presuming they picked 2.8% as it is at the limit, maybe it has to be 2.79% to be definitely in the lower limit).

doesn't seem to any cheaper in most pubs tho akaik.

Zaph · 07-06-2017 06:07PM

mikeecho wrote: »

I've reported this thread..

Obvious troll.

And no action taken. ( yet my post on westy is edited).

Come on.. report this thread

The OP has already been sitebanned, what more do you want?

odyssey06 · 07-06-2017 06:34PM

Zaph wrote: »

The OP has already been sitebanned, what more do you want?

I think it would have been apt had he been sentenced to drink four pints of mid-strength Guinness... then walk home?

mikeecho · 07-06-2017 07:55PM

Zaph wrote: »

The OP has already been sitebanned, what more do you want?

Wasn't aware of that.

I think the thread could be closed now

rubadub · 08-06-2017 04:54PM

glasso wrote: »

doesn't seem to any cheaper in most pubs tho akaik.

yeah, thats what I was getting at, I think its the reason its not more popular. I would sooner just drink a half pint if I wanted less alcohol, and a glass of tap water if I was thirsty.

I have only seen 2 or 3 people I know getting it, and lots were asking how much it cost, to see what savings are to be had, and then "WTF! its the same?!"

I always found it strange how some people wanting to "take it easy", will buy longnecks, paying around the same or even more than pints, but would never EVER dream of buying a half pint.

irish_goat · 08-06-2017 05:35PM

rubadub wrote: »

I always found it strange how some people wanting to "take it easy", will buy longnecks, paying around the same or even more than pints, but would never EVER dream of buying a half pint.

I would say that might be partly to do with rounds. It's easier to keep on par with pint drinkers with a longneck rather than a half pint. That'd be my thinking anyway.

the beer revolu · 08-06-2017 07:14PM

rubadub wrote: »

I always found it strange how some people wanting to "take it easy", will buy longnecks, paying around the same or even more than pints, but would never EVER dream of buying a half pint.

Maybe it's because half pints are a scandalous rip off in most pubs compared to pints.

Of course, long necks are also a complete rip off but they might be seen as a "premium" product.

rubadub · 08-06-2017 08:12PM

irish_goat wrote: »

I would say that might be partly to do with rounds. It's easier to keep on par with pint drinkers with a longneck rather than a half pint.

It is easier to keep a par spending wise, and wonder if that is it, as they are more or less the same price. A 330ml longneck is only 16% more liquid. Many do not cop this.

To get the point across I ask about a pint and a can, most people think/accept they are around about the same, you even hear people using them interchangeabley,
"I had 6 pints last night"
"oh what pub"
"ah no, 6 cans at home"

I remember a mates jaw dropping telling him that
-half pint is 57% of a can,
-a longneck is 58% of a pint.

I have said in other threads I think the real reason is the macho man image. I know many who would not be in rounds but having longnecks at say a wedding or stag do with all day drinking. Half pints are "for wimmin" or "lightweights", while oddly the miserable 16% more and you are grand again. Though more recently some mainstream longnecks in pubs are getting slightly bigger than 330ml.

the beer revolu wrote: »

Maybe it's because half pints are a scandalous rip off in most pubs compared to pints.

Of course, long necks are also a complete rip off but they might be seen as a "premium" product.

As many mainstream longnecks are widely available for ?1 or less I would have thought they would have lost any sort of "premium" notions about them. I only get half pints in pubs like against the grain who charge the same or a little more than half price. I think it should be law that it should be the same per per ml, if the gov are serious at all about curbing binge drinking, I think in some country it might be law.

I am not sure of price differences in "diageo pubs", but I doubt they come near to the price per ml of longnecks.

the beer revolu · 10-06-2017 11:09AM

rubadub wrote: »

I have said in other threads I think the real reason is the macho man image. I know many who would not be in rounds but having longnecks at say a wedding or stag do with all day drinking. Half pints are "for wimmin" or "lightweights", while oddly the miserable 16% more and you are grand again. Though more recently some mainstream longnecks in pubs are getting slightly bigger than 330ml.

As many mainstream longnecks are widely available for ?1 or less I would have thought they would have lost any sort of "premium" notions about them. I only get half pints in pubs like against the grain who charge the same or a little more than half price. I think it should be law that it should be the same per per ml, if the gov are serious at all about curbing binge drinking, I think in some country it might be law.

I am not sure of price differences in "diageo pubs", but I doubt they come near to the price per ml of longnecks.

I've been banging on about half pint pricing being put in law for years now!

I was recently with someone pouring 2 Heineken bottles into a pint glass in a hotel bar. I asked why not just have a pint of Heineken?
"ugh, I wouldn't drink draught beer - draught beer is awful"

odyssey06 · 10-06-2017 11:37AM

I think it helps that the range of glasses in most establishments has expanded, if I order a glass of beer there's a good chance it'll come in a 'proper' glass for beer. Rather than a re-purposed highball, or worse, those 'baby' pint glasses that looked like a mini Guinness pint glass.
If there's a new beer I want to try, especially in craft beer places, I'll order a glass rather than a pint in case it doesn't impress me... I find it hard to get an impression just from a sample.

BeerNut · 14-06-2017 03:46PM

One quick Google later.

odyssey06 · 19-10-2017 09:36AM

It's on tap in the Beachcomber on the Howth Road (Dublin 5) if anyone is still looking...

Greg81 · 19-10-2017 01:11PM

And Golden Ball, Stepaside Dublin 18

Guinness Mid-Strength

Comments